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Thread: Vintage Giggles aka What are they smoking????

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    I responded to this super informative post by asking if they had a model number for the machine.

    http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atd/3071850189.html

    Antique black 1937 singer sewing machine. looking to sell the machine even if it means selling the parts to refrubish another black 1937 singer sewing machine. Also have another older sewing machine that has a table in which the machine comes out. just selling the machine.
    This is the super informative reply:
    I will have to check. I will be back in town in a couple of weeks and I can text the model number to you if that is okay

    Why list something if you aren't even there to sell it?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskira View Post
    I responded to this super informative post by asking if they had a model number for the machine.

    http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atd/3071850189.html



    This is the super informative reply:



    Why list something if you aren't even there to sell it?!
    I don't understand why anyone lists an item without a picture either. . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by notsureif View Post
    This one looks just like mine, because of the H on the arm. most i see have a plian H

    BUTT >>>> new home built there first machine in 1860

    I just called on a c/l add for a free anti - Q machine.. hee haaww..

    guys says his sister did the research it's a 1917, he starts reading off numbers , doesn't know the brand, yet has numbers ???? Finally standing right in front of it he say's remington, Thinking Dam O boy......

    Turn's out it's blue, and has a motor....pretty ahead of it's time = 1917 or 1971 ??? I've been told my singer 237 is antique, but then she is 23 and at the time I had 5 treadles sitting next to the 237 LOLOL.... so what are they ?

    O the free one is in eugene or
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    I would have had it been black and had a pedal, but blue and a motor ?? wellllllll , doesn't sound like a 1917 and maybe a bit to advanced for me.. it didn't sound like it was worth the 20 $ drive..

    beside I have a blue machine.. ya want it ? lolol it's vintage !!!!


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    this add has been running for weks now, each week they cancel and relist to stay on top. machine look decent but the price ,, come at best $125.

    Then tonight I look at portland he must have look in eugene's add LOL. the portland add , is it just me or is there something wrong with this picture ? after all that manual says 201e. How old is that machine ?? In view of the fact that a scammer may buy it , I vote he should keep that rare machine so his kids can say it was grandpa's


    http://eugene.craigslist.org/art/3060211746.html


    http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/atq/3072418097.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by notsureif View Post
    this add has been running for weks now, each week they cancel and relist to stay on top. machine look decent but the price ,, come at best $125.

    Then tonight I look at portland he must have look in eugene's add LOL. the portland add , is it just me or is there something wrong with this picture ? after all that manual says 201e. How old is that machine ?? In view of the fact that a scammer may buy it , I vote he should keep that rare machine so his kids can say it was grandpa's


    http://eugene.craigslist.org/art/3060211746.html


    http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/atq/3072418097.html
    Please help me out here - when did the round bobbin come into use? The first machine looks great, and would be fun to have, but not at that price. The second can't be worth as much, can it? What am I missing in this?
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    Singer's model 15, first introduced in 1870, has a round bobbin. The 27/127 and 28/128, first manufactured in 1885, have a bullet bobbin. So it wasn't an all at once switchover.
    Last edited by Krisb; 06-12-2012 at 06:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quilt Mom View Post
    Please help me out here - when did the round bobbin come into use? The first machine looks great, and would be fun to have, but not at that price. The second can't be worth as much, can it? What am I missing in this?
    Wheeler & Wilson first introduced the round bobbins... in the late 1860's, I believe.
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    the one in portland sure looks like a 66 to me. along with he has a 201 manual, from what I have and seen singer used flowers for the decals until about 1900, somewhere in the 20's went the plain singer and scroll work . The crank is singer but no decals. it looks like a 7 diget serail number which would be correct for the yr listed.

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    Lol at the picture in this listing
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    This person is trying to set the record straiGht on vintage machines:
    http://tulsa.craigslist.org/atq/3067913102.html

    Sadly this will be delated before many read it. Those of you selling sewing machines and typewriters that are old or vintage- really need to get yourself a book on the value of them. The market is flooded with old machines and typewriters and because the value of them wasnt very big to begin with- just because it was made in 1890 or 1900 or even 1920 - they are worth the value of scrap in most cases because nobody collects them enmass and there are thousands and thousands on the market or have been repaired and are sitting collecting dust. I have seen some of them on here 300-400 , for months and months and thats exactly why. Old doesnt mean valuable or collectable-what determines collectability is the amt of them on the market vs the amt of people who want them and there simply isnt the demand. Sorry to break it to you

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    The truthm C/L has been a gold mine for me in getting these machines, I would not have any if not for that site... because of shipping e bay is out of the question...

    now I do go for the crappy one's, taht are falling apart , mainly it's there price... I've been ask time after time, if I'm going to resell these after the restoring .... each person asking has had a glow in there eye. I have to admite they do look pretty good....

    my reply is always the same....... I paid x $ it maybe 25 $ or 100$, put in $100 worth of matrails to restore, any where from 21/2 days to 10 days at 8 to 10 or more hrs per day

    I could have any where from 125 $ to over 200 involed in each machine (8 treadle's ) I will ask them " will you give me $500 for that machine " and that glow goes away ... I could not even imagin trieing to restore and resell these. yet I see add on c/l where two are doing just that and list them very hi.

    we have all heard that story about grand ma's singer being sold for $4200, I first heard that in 1968 and again last month LOL, which could have happened.. but it must have been a 1849 with a whale bone needle or a Queen mary

    I'm sure ol singer had a few made for his misstress's that know one know's about..

    I have to agree with the above statement, but who ever wrote that took there information off the net ...

    what determines collectability is the buyer, not what others think the value is.. The highest I paid so far is $100. it's a singer with one letter and 7 numbers, so it's vaue is scrap, which would be about 30 cents'

    I would bet most people on here would give the 100 I paid. it's a lotus, with very good decals, fact close to the best I have seen in person and net picture's

    In buying I will not dicker on the price. like right now a lady has a singer 61w, she would say a price,, making me think she wants 100's or she might take 25$ or she might want $400. This is why I will not dicker on a price, I know what it will cost me to restore it ... I also deal with vintage to antique car parts and do the same thing ....and yes when I set a price that is the price no dickering LOLOL.. this may sound a bit hard core , but go to wal mart and see if they will sell you new tires for 200 less that there asking price.

    Go check the price's of restored 60's volkswagen bugs or Buses ( 15,000 to 20 ) Then do the math on the total cost of doing this... 10,000 on the average in materails, who wants to drive a old rat trap VW .>>> again LOL

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    Why dicker. People usually price their items higher that they expect to give themselves some "Dickering room". Tell them what you are willing to pay. If they accept, great. If not. Walk away.

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    MOST people will list a higher price, expecting someone to offer less. So they ask for $200, and hope someone will give them $150. They think that if they ask $150, they will only get an offer of $100, and that's less than what they want to get for the item. ~shrug~ Dickering is in the nature of the beast....on BOTH sides of the sale!
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    I thought I was a good haggler, but my husband (who worked in a pawn shop) is amazing at it, and his father is a legend. So I've decided my strong point is that I can walk away without a thought. My husband and I are a good "good cop/bad cop" team too.

    The easiest thing I've found is simply to ask, "can you do any better on the price?" Either they can or they can't.

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    Not a lot of information but she's thinking it's a gold mine!

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    I can't believe they made this into a lamp... http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ws...989420704.html Name:  5N45F35J63Mb3Jb3Hdc5180f609a72c3d1ebd.jpg
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    http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/hsh/3075496256.html
    thunk - that was my head beating against the monitor...
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    lamp shades , you know there are sites showing how to make lamps from these old machines LOL that one looks savable...

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    http://hattiesburg.craigslist.org/art/3039911937.html Since when does "used" mean $550 more than "new"??

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    So, I was torturing myself again perusing CL (why? I already have more machines than I use...), when I came across this:
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    ETA: I think this is really cool, I'm not saying these people are smoking anything!
    Last edited by crisscross; 06-13-2012 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ccorazone View Post
    Why dicker. People usually price their items higher that they expect to give themselves some "Dickering room". Tell them what you are willing to pay. If they accept, great. If not. Walk away.
    The last time I did not dicker, the seller was so surprised, she threw into the deal attachments, a current book on featherweights, and a bunch of other things that were not listed in the ad. I thought I came out on the better side. (I know not everyone will do this.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by crisscross View Post
    So, I was torturing myself again perusing CL (why? I already have more machines than I use...), when I came across this:
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    ETA: I think this is really cool, I'm not saying these people are smoking anything!
    This looks like my machine. I named her Abby. Guess why. Got her for 40 and paid 25 to get her rewired and cleaned up. A great machine and fun to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenda m View Post
    I named her Abby. Guess why.
    I have no idea! (No, really, clueless....)

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    I've never played with one of those.
    Last edited by miriam; 06-13-2012 at 06:51 PM.
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