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    Quote Originally Posted by mpeters1200 View Post
    I didn't know it was from 1949. My mom was born in 44. I know that in 1959, when mom was a teenager, she was working for a lady with ill health. The lady didn't have a lot of money, but she did have the FW. She gave it to my mother before she died. My mom was the only other owner of the machine. I know it hasn't been used in probably 20-25 years. Mom stopped sewing around the time I was 10 or so.

    Are the manuals for the FW's downloadable? I don't have one and it wasn't among mom's stuff. The plate thing that moves with the thread on it looks like it should have 2 screws, but there is only a hole to screw one. I think the other one was busted off at some point. If I could figure out the name of the part I could probably buy another one.

    Mom had a bunch, like 20, bobbins, all with a ton of holes in them. I think those are for the FW. There is one that doesn't have the holes. I don't know if it would go to her FW or not. Are there any tricks to tell the difference in sizes in the bobbins? I don't know what happened to the feet of the machine. There's only one on the machine and I can't find any other attachments. All I need is one to piece with cause that's what I'll be using her for. I need to go peruse the tutorials so I can find the one one cleaning, so I can clean her up.

    http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...ng-machine.pdf
    for the short manual
    http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...anual_1951.pdf
    for a longer manual
    and http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...ght-manual.pdf
    lots to choose from!
    Here are a bunch of links http://www.quiltingboard.com/links-r...8.html#4566890

    For cleaning it up you need to look at Muv's videos
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bidpJ..._order&list=UL
    it will go on and do part 2 when part one runs completely out
    This is a very good video for cleaning up an old sewing machine!!!
    I hope you enjoy this as much as I did.

    She also has one on adjusting tension on a long bobbin sewing machine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43_-..._order&list=UL

    I think so far she has 9 videos - all very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justtrish View Post
    I so need that Style-O-Matic box... I have the attachment but no box.

    You and Glenn are brilliant!
    I like Nancy's idea of a box at each machine. Even though I have the drawers in the cabinet, the sewing notions at the machine seem to wander off. I also use the tiny mint and chocolate tins that I pick up at Trader Joe's to hold my bobbins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpeters1200 View Post
    Are the manuals for the FW's downloadable? The plate thing that moves with the thread on it looks like it should have 2 screws, but there is only a hole to screw one. I think the other one was busted off at some point. If I could figure out the name of the part I could probably buy another one.

    Mom had a bunch, like 20, bobbins, all with a ton of holes in them. I think those are for the FW. There is one that doesn't have the holes. I don't know if it would go to her FW or not. Are there any tricks to tell the difference in sizes in the bobbins? I don't know what happened to the feet of the machine. There's only one on the machine and I can't find any other attachments.
    Hi there. Yes, the white, powdery stuff on the FW wires is usually a sort of dusty stuff that's caused by age/reaction of the wire coating to humidity. You can wipe it off, don't ingest it. lol. Graham Kendrick's 'Featherweights to the Gentry" website in England has great info about this sort of thing. Also, the sew-classic.com web site too.

    The top cover you are talking about is a 'spool pin cover'. One the cover (and the top of the machine) there should be two holes. Either there will be two, small screws or 1 small screw and one rivit fastener. You can easily order them off ebay, or the sew-classic site (I am not affiliated with any site). Search for spool pin cover screw, etc.

    Re: bobbins. Featherweights (221's and 222's) and the 301 slants take the same size bobbins. Best way I can describe them too you: they are the same diameter looking as all the other old singer metal bobbins BUT they are not as thick. There is a great 'bobbin identifyer' page/.pdf on the web. I'll attempt to attach it later. Basically, your bobbin should fit into the bobbin case so that it's flush. There should be no 'bobbin' sticking out. If there is, that bobbin is for another machine. Hang onto all the bobbins you have. The new repro/replacement ones do not seem to work as well in my FW.

    FW... there are other parts you should replace as you refurbish your FW. The feet can all be replaced YES! Buy 4 new ones off ebay, but save your orig. screws. You'll need them. Buy all 4 new, so they are the same height. Either the 221/FW or the 301 feet will fit your FW. Also replace the cloth/felty liner (oil drip catcher) that's in your bottom tray. Simply unscrew the big screw, pull off the bottom tray, and peel off the old, nasty, smelly liner. Clean and replace with a new one. Again, you can find them on ebay. The little felt circles that go under your thread spools actually serve a real purpose on all machines, buy em at your local sew shop or ebay, sew-classic, etc. Manual's you can buy almost anywhere, see Miriam's post.

    Keep us posted of your progress! You will love your FW... especially because of it's wonderful family history and because they sew really really well. Pay attention to how you thread it, FW's are known for making 'thread nests' in the bobbin area - mostly due to operator error! (Ask me how I know!)lol. There are many good web sites for teaching you how to correctly sew on them-to avoid nests AND what to do if you get one. Mine FW sews great!
    Kim
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    I like Nancy's idea of a box at each machine. Even though I have the drawers in the cabinet, the sewing notions at the machine seem to wander off. I also use the tiny mint and chocolate tins that I pick up at Trader Joe's to hold my bobbins.
    I have all kinds of attachment boxes, F&P pins boxes, cheese boxes, etc that I keep bobbins and attachments in, all labeled for which machines they are for. Too confusing otherwise!! When I had just a Brother, it was no problema, but now...wow...I have 4 different types of bobbins and tons of different attachments right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Do you have a picture? If you do there is an attachment post on here - please add to it! It looks like it would be very fun to play with.
    Miriam, I will take a picture tonight but it will be veryyyyy late!

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    Hi back everyone....

    OMGosh, that New Home Treadle? I'd have been all over it!

    Miriam, I saw you posted a craigslist link a few pages ago... was that to the awesome ANKOR Treadle in Indiana. I WANT that machine! (We're nautical boaters here in S. Florida)! But there was no way to get it down to me in one piece. Rats.

    On that 411g machine for sale in canada. I emailed the guy (who's probably lurking on this list!) lol. And asked him a few questions about it. I really cannot afford $300 let alone $400. But that's one awesome machine.

    I had to LAUGH out loud about the 'green' machine emails. At first I was thinking, "Oh... I bet she found a 185j".. but no, now it sounds like a Jap clone. LOVE those machines. Billy is so right, they are great.

    <takes sip of coffee> I'm off to a library meeting tonight (ladies are in their 80's) and tomorrow, off to a doll club meeting (again, older ladies and gents)... I'm going to try to sneak in a question about ... "hum... I really like old sewing machines, I don't suppose any of you ladies have any old machines or parts you no longer want....????" LOL You never know. LOL! Um, my name is Kim and I'm an UN-recovering sewing machine addict.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt View Post
    Hi back everyone....

    OMGosh, that New Home Treadle? I'd have been all over it!

    Miriam, I saw you posted a craigslist link a few pages ago... was that to the awesome ANKOR Treadle in Indiana. I WANT that machine! (We're nautical boaters here in S. Florida)! But there was no way to get it down to me in one piece. Rats.

    On that 411g machine for sale in canada. I emailed the guy (who's probably lurking on this list!) lol. And asked him a few questions about it. I really cannot afford $300 let alone $400. But that's one awesome machine.

    I had to LAUGH out loud about the 'green' machine emails. At first I was thinking, "Oh... I bet she found a 185j".. but no, now it sounds like a Jap clone. LOVE those machines. Billy is so right, they are great.

    <takes sip of coffee> I'm off to a library meeting tonight (ladies are in their 80's) and tomorrow, off to a doll club meeting (again, older ladies and gents)... I'm going to try to sneak in a question about ... "hum... I really like old sewing machines, I don't suppose any of you ladies have any old machines or parts you no longer want....????" LOL You never know. LOL! Um, my name is Kim and I'm an UN-recovering sewing machine addict.....
    I posted a bunch I saw on CL - I don't have any on there myself - I just like to browse so I shared. What was it?
    I don't remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt View Post
    Hi there. Yes, the white, powdery stuff on the FW wires is usually a sort of dusty stuff that's caused by age/reaction of the wire coating to humidity. You can wipe it off, don't ingest it. lol. Graham Kendrick's 'Featherweights to the Gentry" website in England has great info about this sort of thing. Also, the sew-classic.com web site too.

    The top cover you are talking about is a 'spool pin cover'. One the cover (and the top of the machine) there should be two holes. Either there will be two, small screws or 1 small screw and one rivit fastener. You can easily order them off ebay, or the sew-classic site (I am not affiliated with any site). Search for spool pin cover screw, etc.

    Re: bobbins. Featherweights (221's and 222's) and the 301 slants take the same size bobbins. Best way I can describe them too you: they are the same diameter looking as all the other old singer metal bobbins BUT they are not as thick. There is a great 'bobbin identifyer' page/.pdf on the web. I'll attempt to attach it later. Basically, your bobbin should fit into the bobbin case so that it's flush. There should be no 'bobbin' sticking out. If there is, that bobbin is for another machine. Hang onto all the bobbins you have. The new repro/replacement ones do not seem to work as well in my FW.

    FW... there are other parts you should replace as you refurbish your FW. The feet can all be replaced YES! Buy 4 new ones off ebay, but save your orig. screws. You'll need them. Buy all 4 new, so they are the same height. Either the 221/FW or the 301 feet will fit your FW. Also replace the cloth/felty liner (oil drip catcher) that's in your bottom tray. Simply unscrew the big screw, pull off the bottom tray, and peel off the old, nasty, smelly liner. Clean and replace with a new one. Again, you can find them on ebay. The little felt circles that go under your thread spools actually serve a real purpose on all machines, buy em at your local sew shop or ebay, sew-classic, etc. Manual's you can buy almost anywhere, see Miriam's post.

    Keep us posted of your progress! You will love your FW... especially because of it's wonderful family history and because they sew really really well. Pay attention to how you thread it, FW's are known for making 'thread nests' in the bobbin area - mostly due to operator error! (Ask me how I know!)lol. There are many good web sites for teaching you how to correctly sew on them-to avoid nests AND what to do if you get one. Mine FW sews great!
    Wow, thank you. I wish mom would have been around long enough to see me get her going. I am copying and pasting all the responses about her to an email so I can keep the info. I need to get me a manual first, to start. Thanks for giving me the proper name to the spool thingy.

    I'm glad that the powdery junk can be removed. There is one of those little felt circles in the bottom of the machine. It's red. I don't know what that liner thing is that you were talking about though.

    Also, is this a 221 or a 222? I know that 221's seem to have been more popular, and there were more of them. Do you know what the differences are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    I like Nancy's idea of a box at each machine. Even though I have the drawers in the cabinet, the sewing notions at the machine seem to wander off. I also use the tiny mint and chocolate tins that I pick up at Trader Joe's to hold my bobbins.
    This is so true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by justtrish View Post
    This is so true...
    Maybe that is why I like the Singer 403 and the Spartan together - they share bobbins! The 15 clones have to have their own bobbins but can share attachments with the Spartan
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Maybe that is why I like the Singer 403 and the Spartan together - they share bobbins! The 15 clones have to have their own bobbins but can share attachments with the Spartan
    Miriam,

    This is probably why I have started using my 301 and my 221 the most.....

    I spent my Saturday evening figuring out my attachments because they did not come in attachment boxes..That is how I found my Style-O-Matic!!

    Now if someone can explain a standard foot, from a slant, and low shank foot... this would also help..ugh!
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    I think I may finally have a link to my photo of my little green machine. See if this works. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMGP2522.jpg

    I have her all cleaned up, just need to put the bobbin case back in and figure out how to thread her up. The wires are all in good condition, and I am ready to try her out.

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    Just want to share the project I was working on yesterday while chatting (or should I say babbling away) with all of you. I started the layout in morning and pieces sewn together by midnight. Just need to sew rest of strips together. This is going on the back of a quilt that I'm working on right now. Piecing done with my Singer 201.Name:  IMG_3932.JPG
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    Quote Originally Posted by auniqueview View Post
    I think I may finally have a link to my photo of my little green machine. See if this works. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMGP2522.jpg

    I have her all cleaned up, just need to put the bobbin case back in and figure out how to thread her up. The wires are all in good condition, and I am ready to try her out.
    OH you have a clone!!! You want to get the needle in the right direction - ask Glen how I know..... http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/12/...-15-clone.aspx There is even a manual on there! More clones: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    just want to share the project i was working on yesterday while chatting (or should i say babbling away) with all of you. I started the layout in morning and pieces sewn together by midnight. Just need to sew rest of strips together. This is going on the back of a quilt that i'm working on right now. Piecing done with my singer 201.Name:  IMG_3932.JPG
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    i love it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justtrish View Post
    Miriam,

    This is probably why I have started using my 301 and my 221 the most.....

    I spent my Saturday evening figuring out my attachments because they did not come in attachment boxes..That is how I found my Style-O-Matic!!


    Now if someone can explain a standard foot, from a slant, and low shank foot... this would also help..ugh!
    http://blog.sew-classic.com/2009/01/...g-machine.aspx She explains it so well on her site...
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    Miriam,

    She does explain it well. However, when reading the info on the attachment numbers on the uksinger site... some are described as "standard foot"

    What is a standard foot???
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Just want to share the project I was working on yesterday while chatting (or should I say babbling away) with all of you. I started the layout in morning and pieces sewn together by midnight. Just need to sew rest of strips together. This is going on the back of a quilt that I'm working on right now. Piecing done with my Singer 201.Name:  IMG_3932.JPG
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    I still haven't quilted yet...and wow...so many pieces...does piecing mean putting all those little pieces together? Yikes... I am beginning to think quilting might be to complicated... lol

    p.s. very nice quilt back
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    Quote Originally Posted by justtrish View Post
    I still haven't quilted yet...and wow...so many pieces...does piecing mean putting all those little pieces together? Yikes... I am beginning to think quilting might be to complicated... lol

    p.s. very nice quilt back
    There are some easy quilts that don't require so many little pieces at a time. She is trying to keep a heart pattern going.
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    I also keep all the attachments, bobbins, etc that go with each machine in a container right with each machine. I also like to have a pair of small scissors/snips, a small ruler guide and anything else I think I might need (manual, oil). And I made little fabric bowls for each machine, they are great to catch all the little snips of thread and things because I don't have a trash container at each machine. The little bowls are cute made of sewing related fabrics or any other you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    There are some easy quilts that don't require so many little pieces at a time. She is trying to keep a heart pattern going.
    Exactly! There are many very easy strip quilts that can be done. I have been using up my scraps. This was the remaining 2x2s. Just look around on QB to find an easy quilt to piece.

    Justtrish, Start using that FW now! Forget about trying to learn the feet at this point in time and just start using your machines. Most likely the foot that is on the machine is the foot that you need to use for piecing. Have Fun!


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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    OH you have a clone!!! You want to get the needle in the right direction - ask Glen how I know..... http://blog.sew-classic.com/2008/12/...-15-clone.aspx The
    re is even a manual on there! More clones: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html
    Thanks for the link. Good to know about the needle. I see now why it arm wrestled me to get the one back in...not the right direction. The one that is in there (wrong, lol) is a 100. Not gonna use it on anything. He really was sewing leather with this machine. I have a 100 needle box, mostly full, of size 40s. Guess I won't need to be buying any of those for a while, either. I have some regular machine needles in much smaller sizes around here, lol.

    I knew it was a clone, and such a pretty little miss, lol. It just took me a while to come out of my funk and take a real look at her. She is all nice and clean and oiled up. And now I know how to put the needle in and thread her up. I might actually get that quilt under a machine and repaired yet, lol. It does have the little Precision Badge on it, too. Now, I need to go work on my little black one, and see if I can get it running. I might even sneak in some sewing. Someone should have warned me about these machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedwoman View Post
    I also keep all the attachments, bobbins, etc that go with each machine in a container right with each machine. I also like to have a pair of small scissors/snips, a small ruler guide and anything else I think I might need (manual, oil). And I made little fabric bowls for each machine, they are great to catch all the little snips of thread and things because I don't have a trash container at each machine. The little bowls are cute made of sewing related fabrics or any other you like.
    You state the bowls are made of fabrics. I would love to see your sewing bowls. Please post a picture of one. Thanks!

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    Thank You, Billy - I hope this means that you are feeling better! You can count me in!
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    Been browsing Shopgoodwill.com & Ebay for 15 clones. Any thoughts on this one? Bidding closes in 6 hours (5:00-ish PST)http://www.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-Po...item415ee727d2

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