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    Well I've taken the machine out of the cabinet and have been cleaning with SMO. I uncovered one decal that wasn't visible before. Letting it soak for now. Another question how do I get all the rust off the handwheel, is it supposed to be shiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leatheflea View Post
    .. Another question how do I get all the rust off the handwheel, is it supposed to be shiny?
    yes it is.

    0000 Steel wool is my weapon of choice in that fight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leatheflea View Post
    Well I've taken the machine out of the cabinet and have been cleaning with SMO. I uncovered one decal that wasn't visible before. Letting it soak for now. Another question how do I get all the rust off the handwheel, is it supposed to be shiny?
    The safest way is with Wadding Polish. It takes a lot of elbow grease and time though. It is what I would recommend on all of the plated parts. You can get it at an Auto Parts store. P.S. It is Nickel plated, not chrome plated.
    ~G~

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    What if the plating is wearing off?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    My husband wants to know if toothpaste would work to polish the metal parts? I've silver polish, is that the same as wadding polish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leatheflea View Post
    My husband wants to know if toothpaste would work to polish the metal parts? I've silver polish, is that the same as wadding polish?
    I've used it some times it works some times it doesn't - I think it depends on what is on it - it works good for silverware if it has the baking soda in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    What if the plating is wearing off?
    IMO you would need to decide what you want as a result. (in no particular order)

    1. Strip and replate
    2. Hand polish until they "blend"
    3. Strip plating and polish the metal directly
    4. Clean the rust off and clearcoat to preserve as is.

    For me, toothpaste (white paste type) is a preferred cleaner/polisher for metal

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    "Wadding Polish" is probably the same thing as Nevr-Dull.

    I use MAAS for polishing metal pieces. I have used it for years on chrome, and nickel plated DE safety razors, and have never had any issues with it marring the finish.
    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    What if the plating is wearing off?
    Electroplaters can put it back. They usually have a minimum job value, so do as many as you can at the same time.
    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 201K2, 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959), 15K90, Bernina 530, Pfaff:360 (1959) http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by manicmike View Post
    Electroplaters can put it back. They usually have a minimum job value, so do as many as you can at the same time.
    How much money are you thinking?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    Charlee, she's beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    How much money are you thinking?
    My local people have a $45 minimum, but everything usually costs more in Australia.
    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 201K2, 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959), 15K90, Bernina 530, Pfaff:360 (1959) http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    Above are photos of my National Two Spool Treadle. She's in pretty good shape, just needs cleaning, lubricating, polishing, etc. She used to belong to my husband's great-grandmother! I have no idea what her age is -- but she shows some wear on the decals on the bed. I haven't cleaned her up yet -- her cabinet is also in good shape -- may need refinishing, but no deep scratches, etc.

    Jeanette Frantz

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    The wadding polish I use is made by Eagle One and is called Nevr Dull Wadding Polish. It comes in a can and is loose cotton (similar to batting) with a polish in it. I would try it and see what the results are before stripping and replating. ALWAYS check the label on any product to see if it is compatible with what you are going to use it on FIRST. It is also important to know that the older Vintage machines were plated in Nickel, not chrome. Newer machines like some Clones and others were Chrome plated. Usually if it works on Nickel, it is good for chrome as well, and visa versa. And Miriam's question, What if the plating is coming off? It depends on how much is coming off. A flake here and there might not look bad enough to do anything about after polishing. If it is really bad, something else might need to be done. I have had great results with some products and it didn't need anything else, other times it needs to have something else done to it to get the results you want. I have a (shelved for now) project Singer 66 that was in really bad shape, so I had the handwheel and other parts chrome plated ($). But usually there is something you can do to compensate for that. I have gone to an auto parts store and read a lot of labels to see what they have to offer. A little homework can arm you with a wealth of choices. I always start with the one with the least chance of damaging the item first and work my way up from there if I don't get the results I am looking for. As far as toothpaste, I have not tried it on a machine myself. That is probably because I have too many other products I can use that were specifically made for what I am trying to do. I have used a lot of other products and tools that I can't in good conscience recommend to someone to use because they can quickly destroy things if you are not experienced with using them.
    Well, that is my two cents worth.
    ~G~

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    Hi Billy & Forum,

    Wow, that's a beautiful Red Eye Singer, and awesome Henderson!

    I am a recent enthusiast. I spotted a treadle sewing machine last Saturday... I fell in love with the well used Vindex that is missing the bobbin plate and brought her home.

    We have the Vindex cleaned, oiled and ready roll, except... We will have my mechanical engineer son make the bobbin plate cover, once I confirm it is the same simple sliding plate that most are - and get a belt.

    The next day we bought a Singer Red Eye. I would have said she's in great shape until I saw the pic of yours We're pretty sure she'll sew perfectly once we get her a belt. Bought her from a gal that used to sew with her, then stored her in the garage for many, many years.

    I will post pics once the machines are back in their cabinets (from their cleaning and oiling once over). I do need help with a few things please. Does this "quick reply" post to the forum, or just reply to you? I have never blogged or forumed (new word?) before... Not sure whether to "quick reply", or "blog this post"?

    More importantly I am having difficulty (as a neophyte) finding manuals (even threading instructions!) on the Vindex. I think it's late 1800, early 1900 machine. The National Sewing Machine Co. branded their machines in so many ways that they lost their own history is my conclusion at first glance She is not a Vindex B, but she looks like one.

    Can anyone lead me in the correct direction for maintenance directions for the Vindex or National machines?

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    So you looking to sell her?

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    I just ordered a belt for my treadle from Sew-Classic. They're on sale for $6.49 + Shipping. I know they're $13-14 here locally (North Central Florida) It's getting time for this old woman to hit the hay!

    Jeanette Frantz

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I do not have a manual. I found a generic manual to go with it. I would not know why it would have 2 spool pins unless you were going to wind a bobbin while you sew with the other.
    http://www.dontai.com/wp/images/imperial-535-manual.pdf link for generic manual
    My old Singer 328K has two spool pins -- but it also can use double needles, thus it needs two thread spools!

    Jeanette Frantz

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    Very pretty machine, Jeanette. It being a family machine makes it even better. You plan to use it, don't you?
    --- Jean

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    This is suppose to be just photos. We have a vintage sewing machine shop just for chatting:
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...ll-t43881.html - best to not start at the beginning. Way too much to read. If you keep up every day you might keep up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    This is suppose to be just photos.
    OK, here's a couple:
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    Didn't take a pic before ripping into it, so here it is just after. I cleaned the dirt off with WD40.
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    And the finished product. I love this machine: Any reservations I had about not having enough space are gone. This was very necessary. Wood cleaned with (1950s bottle of) marveer wood cleaner.
    It also came with the twin needle, which works beautifully.
    EDIT: Oh, tri-flow throughout, and she sews like a new one.
    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 201K2, 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959), 15K90, Bernina 530, Pfaff:360 (1959) http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    Here is my 1936 cast iron 201k after a good muv'ving:
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    I bought a cabinet and had no idea what machine was inside it. Seems the cabinet was incomplete and this lovely machine was hiding inside.
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    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 201K2, 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959), 15K90, Bernina 530, Pfaff:360 (1959) http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    Absolutely I plan to use it! Otherwise, I wouldn't be too concerned with whether or not it works. My sewing machine mechanic son has already been to work on it!

    Jeanette Frantz

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    I gave my beloved tan-coloured 201p to a friend the other day in an exercise to prove I can detach. So, on eBay on Friday night another tan 201P was set to go for $10. You would think I'd have learned by now now to do this but I bid $10.25 about 20 seconds before the end. 20 seconds to give the other guy a chance to outbid me. Well, I picked it up today and it seems I'd contacted the guy a couple of weeks ago and told him how to fix it (in the previous ad he said "doesn't work - runs at full speed when switched on"). He didn't fix it. I removed the capacitor, oiled it and it's absolutely like new. It's one of the aluminium machines made in Scotland after WW2.
    We're all definitely spoiled for beautiful machines. These were very demanded in their day and now go for nothing. This appears to be *the* time to buy, or am I wrong and they'll actually all be worth nothing in the future?
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    Singers: model 12 MOP (1885) Improved Family 29k58 (1939) 44K11 (1921) 201K2, 201K23 206k11 (1950) 222k (1959) 320k2(1959), 15K90, Bernina 530, Pfaff:360 (1959) http://tailororfailure.blogspot.com

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    $10? There is no way I could have passed that up either.

    Antique/vintage sewing machines are just novelties to most people these days, and they were made in such great quantities, that it is doubtful that they will be worth a whole lot, despite what some sellers believe, or try to get others to believe.
    Mark

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