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White Rotary friction pulley: strange attachment?

Old 07-24-2019, 10:56 AM
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Hello everyone,

My White Rotary friction pulley won't come off even after I remove the set screw and use WD-40 to loosen it on the shaft. There appears to be an attaching piece on the end that I don't see in images or videos of other similar machines online. (Thanks So Much to everyone who posted about theirs! I've learned a lot from Rodney and others.)

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The context:
-- I have the correct replacement part, bought from sew-classic

-- I have removed the set screw completely

-- There is what looks to be a 2-part metal piece holding the pulley onto the shaft, something like an end cap. It does not have machining to fit a hexagonal/Allen wrench or anything. In videos of replacing similar pulleys, I saw that after removing the set screw, the pulley just slides off, with no other piece holding the pulley on. I'm not sure if this was something retro-fit onto my machine, or what. Any suggestions??

-- I've used WD-40 to attempt to loosen things up. There is some give of the shaft, but the pulley doesn't pull off and I can't get anything between the pulley and that 'extra' end piece.

Machine info:
Black crinkle finish
Serial 1x22384 (From this page, White made the black crinkle embossed machines starting with 1x990 in 1929:
http://www.treadleon.net/WhiteSM/whites.html This machine appears to pre-date some more common FR models, as also suggested by the fact that it doesn't seem to have a reverse stitch option, but it does have the spring-loaded motor making it easier to work on.)
Motor #: 497137

Thank you!

Tiffany

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Spring-attached motor (you can see the purple pen I've got holding the motor out away from the machine)
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Set screw removed, pulley still stuck on...

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Old 07-24-2019, 01:46 PM
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Tiffany. I jsut took mine off to check. Set screw loosened and it almost fell off the shaft.It looked like yours looking directly at the shaft. Can you gently use two pry bars ( ok small screwdrivers) to push the pulley away from the motor?

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PS you prolly already know this. but you are missing a bobbin winder tire, too..
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I know nothing about your machine except it looks to be one heck of a heavy duty never die machine!
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Originally Posted by leonf View Post
Tiffany. I jsut took mine off to check. Set screw loosened and it almost fell off the shaft.It looked like yours looking directly at the shaft. Can you gently use two pry bars ( ok small screwdrivers) to push the pulley away from the motor?

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Thanks for your reply! I've tried prying gently, but no luck. I've added some more oil to see if it will loosen further, but honestly it looks as though there is an extra piece that makes me think I need a gear puller or something like it. If you get a chance, could you show the other side of the pulley you have, and/or the end of the shaft? Is there something that looks like the 2-part metal piece on mine, instead of just the single metal piece of the pulley and single shaft?
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Originally Posted by leonf View Post
PS you prolly already know this. but you are missing a bobbin winder tire, too..
Yep, thanks I'm just keeping any new rubber away for the moment until I'm done with all the degreasers and oil during repair, lest my grubby fingers mess up a new piece..
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Originally Posted by lindaschipper View Post
I know nothing about your machine except it looks to be one heck of a heavy duty never die machine!
Right?! The more I read about this model, the luckier I feel to be able to play with it. Straight-stitch only, but it makes me want to sew with canvas or something just to see how it goes

Happy sewing!
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Originally Posted by Tinker or Sew View Post
Thanks for your reply! I've tried prying gently, but no luck. I've added some more oil to see if it will loosen further, but honestly it looks as though there is an extra piece that makes me think I need a gear puller or something like it. If you get a chance, could you show the other side of the pulley you have, and/or the end of the shaft? Is there something that looks like the 2-part metal piece on mine, instead of just the single metal piece of the pulley and single shaft?
I just checked both of mine. (Yes, I have two embossed. The oldest, Betty, is SN: 1X3005. The younger one, Martha, has an FR serial number.) Anyway, Betty has a plain silver center hub on the friction wheel, and no extra flange in the center. It came of easily when I released the hex set-screw. Martha's has a dark center (maybe just tarnish) but it also released easily when I loosened the flat head screw. No problem with either one.

Not sure if that's any help, but at lease you have some more comparisons.

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Welcome aboard Debbers. Always nice to see White fans.
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