Identification needed on vintage sewing machine

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04-18-2013, 04:44 AM

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stargatesg1sean

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Yes we thought about late 19th century, but that makers badge has us stumped.

04-19-2013, 10:41 AM

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Janis what size needles worked in your Grizner as I could try the same.

Thanks

Mizkaki told me what needles would work on my machine, and as she suggests, they just might work on yours too. Mine doesn't have the little needle stop at the top of where the needle fits in, so I can adjust it to where it needs to be. Mizkaki has been very helpful to me and willing to share the knowledge.

04-19-2013, 12:07 PM

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Here is what I posted last week for Janis.
"yours is a TS (transverse shuttle). All TSs take a 12x1 needle. AND most German TSs will work with the common industrial DBX1 needle.
Remember that the TSs do not have a needle stop for depth. Place the needle oriented the correct way (usually with the long groove facing forward), push it up to where you know its too high and clamp it down lightly. Turn the hand wheel towards you until the timing mark (an etched horizontal line on the top left of the needlebar) is just entering the casting. Now loosen and lower the needle until the eye is just entering the needle plate. Your needle is now set properly. See the thread: Does anyone else have one of these?

Cathy

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Mizkaki told me what needles would work on my machine.

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04-19-2013, 12:13 PM

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I used the Mr. Needlebar Dating program to I look up your serial number (assuming its a Baer & Rempel, based on the info from Needlebar's Needle Book) I got it as a 1923 to 1930 made in Bielefeld in Germany. I know that is a lot of assumptions, but it may be the best we can get for now.

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My wife bought what she thought was a antique singer from ebay, when we looked at the machine it seemed to look similar in style to the 12k fiddlebase but without the shaped base(maybe singer clone) and the gold badge does not look like any singer badges that i have seen while searching the net, also maybe looks like it also takes the 12/1 rare needles as any needle we have tried do not fit(too big). Any help getting this machine identified(maker and model and year) would be helpful, also on the main black body where some of the gold decals have faded just to the left and under the 1st spool holder we noticed when shined at with a torch 2 words that looks like used to be there but now faded away "The Phoenix".

Thanks for reading and hope someone can help

07-23-2015, 06:45 AM

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Flibberti

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I realise this is an old thread but this image came up in a search I was doing and it looked familiar. I helped someone else with answering the same question on another page a few days ago. The machine is a Stoewer Transverse Shuttle.

http://www.needlebar.org/cm/displayi..._display_media

I hope that helps!