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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    Opinions are wonderful things, aren't they?
    Just like everyone has one................

    But a clone is an exact replica with the Singer name on it. A japanese 15 is a model 15 copy that looks like one.



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    Last edited by Lostn51; 11-10-2011 at 01:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51 View Post
    Just like everyone has one................

    But a clone is an exact replica with the Singer name on it. A japanese 15 is a model 15 copy that looks like one.



    Billy
    So for short they are 15 clones....
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    I would call the ones with the faceplate tension, Japanese 15 Clones, but the ones with the tension on the front, Japanese machines that use Class 15 Bobbins. At least mine do, and I have a couple of those as well as the clones. The Japanese ZZ that uses the 15 bobbin is pretty cool. I have a Wizard and New Home that are the zz/15 and both are great machines. The wizard my mom bought in 1966 for $66 and it still sews fine. I put a pic somewhere on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor View Post

    Hi,
    I'd put my money that the Hales Crescent is a badged Davis bottom feeder. I have a similar machine that is about 3/4 size. Needlewise it might take a standard 15 x 1 or if not a #10 Boye. What's the serial number? Nice machine, great price.
    Jon
    Jon and Monica, I think you are probably on the right track. This machine takes a very long needle. I haven't taken the needle out yet to measure - don't want to take a chance on ruining it - but, it appears to be a Boye 10 or Davis long. The whole machine reminds me of my Davis and my Two Spools. The cabinet is made like a Davis or National Two Spools cabinet - more a square cut, solid, sturdy. Right now the cabinet is dismantled until DH gets it fixed. DH repaired the broken treadle iron already! This is the second Hales Crescent I have seen. There is another one for sale in an antique shop in the town of El Dorado, which means it is not that unusual! This makes me wonder why ISMACS doesn't even list the Hales Crescent on their needle site? I am doubting at this point that this machine is from the Johnson, Flanders, and Company factory of Cresent machines?

    Oh the serial number is 1841671, and it is on the slide plate like a Davis - instead of on the bed of the machine somwhere!
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    Last edited by BoJangles; 11-10-2011 at 02:32 PM.

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    In the antique and vintage sewing machine community if it does not have the Singer logo it is called a copy. A clone is a Chinese reproduction that has the Singer logo on it. Some of the Chinese machines were allotted by Singer and a lot of them are counterfeit. But if it looks like a Singer 15 with the dial on the faceplate and a different name on it then it is a copy, or better known as a Japanese 15. I have lots of company records from the Japanese based companies that made them and even in their records they are called "Model 15's". And I have probably the most information about the Japanese machines than anyone on the planet.

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    I don't think I'm even going to TRY to catch up with you all!! I'm just going to dash in and give a quick update before getting back to hauling plants in out of the coming freeze.

    Since I know EXACTLY what you all want to hear, I'll let you know that yes, I'm still bringing in more machines than I sell. My newest old machines are a pair of 128's with Victorian decals (I bought one for the case and the crank, machine is in rough shape; the next day I found one in nice shape, so will put the two together); a German paw foot TS (beautiful little machine, need to get it cleaned and shined); a Domestic B HC (very cute); and my prize, a back-wheel Wilson treadle.

    First weekend in Oct was a quilt retreat--finally finished a top that had been giving me grief. 2nd weekend was a great time at ISMACS. It was a small crowd, but well worth the time. Beautiful machine overload viewing Gary Wachs' collection. Since then has been a cold, a burn, and a fall--not so much fun, but recovering from all. Life still busy beyond belief, but hope to be able to check in more often!!

    So now--when did the Quilting Board get a new look? Do we like it???
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    I need a foot for my featherweight. It came apart and now will not sew. The power cord is attached so I need both. Any hekp will be greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miz Johnny View Post
    I don't think I'm even going to TRY to catch up with you all!! I'm just going to dash in and give a quick update before getting back to hauling plants in out of the coming freeze.

    Since I know EXACTLY what you all want to hear, I'll let you know that yes, I'm still bringing in more machines than I sell. My newest old machines are a pair of 128's with Victorian decals (I bought one for the case and the crank, machine is in rough shape; the next day I found one in nice shape, so will put the two together); a German paw foot TS (beautiful little machine, need to get it cleaned and shined); a Domestic B HC (very cute); and my prize, a back-wheel Wilson treadle.

    First weekend in Oct was a quilt retreat--finally finished a top that had been giving me grief. 2nd weekend was a great time at ISMACS. It was a small crowd, but well worth the time. Beautiful machine overload viewing Gary Wachs' collection. Since then has been a cold, a burn, and a fall--not so much fun, but recovering from all. Life still busy beyond belief, but hope to be able to check in more often!!

    So now--when did the Quilting Board get a new look? Do we like it???
    Hey girl!! We were worried since we hadn't heard from you in AGES!! Hope all is well...post pics of your new ones when you can. Burn? Fall? YUCK!! Glad to see you back.

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    I found a source for Boye #10 needles for all us Davis folks. If you need some, send me a PM and I'll give you the contact info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnai View Post
    I need a foot for my featherweight. It came apart and now will not sew. The power cord is attached so I need both. Any hekp will be greatly appreciated
    Feet for any low shank machine will fit the FW....power cord attached? What do you mean? Do you mean you need a Foot Pedal and power cord combination? Those you can get online at April 1930s or Sew-Classic.

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