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Joe, I have taken a couple classes on the 221/301 and always been told the bobbins were unique to those machines! What an interesting bit of information! Please post a photo of the Singer 9W -7. I have a Singer 9W. Is the 9W-7 different? I need to go take that machine out and look at the bobbin!
What we all learn here is amazing and so much fun! This thing with the 306w and the 306k just amazes me too!
Nancy
What we all learn here is amazing and so much fun! This thing with the 306w and the 306k just amazes me too!
Nancy
Thank you Joe and Nancy for the info on the bobbins. As yet, I don't have a 9W-7, so I will be satisfied to use these bobbins on my FW and 301 machines. It is nice that 3 of my machines all use the same bobbins. I like that. Thanks again!
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Candace, look what we have all learned due to your enabling! If it weren't for you sending me the ad, I wouldn't have picked up this machine and none of us would know how important that little letter is to the model number! I still think Singer was on drugs or something when they made these machines different! I wonder how many other models made in different factories were made different or is the 306 series an anomaly? What about the 206 and 319's?
Monica, where have you been? You like to do research!
Nancy
Monica, where have you been? You like to do research!
Nancy
My 306 was never set up for 15 needles as far as I know. But it did have some big time scarring of Tue case like someone may have used one anyway. It also had issues with dropping stitches in ZZ mode, as moving the needle side to side effectively changes the hook timing. I only went through and carefully set mine back to factory and it seems to work well that way (with the proper 206 class needles)
Some of the 9W's take the 221 bobbins, others take a "donut" or "bagel" bobbin like W&W 8....
Ok Candace just got me in trouble - again!
I just picked up this 306w! I don't want the cabinet - we will probably make a dump haul with it! The machine looks to be a very good shape, but it is missing its bobbin case! What is it with these bobbin cases? I only gave $25 for the machine without the bobbin case! I know the 206, 306, 319 all take a special 'L' bobbin, special 206x13 needles - so I assume the bobbin case will be hard to find! I was not willing to pay more than $25 without the case! The cabinet was full of stuff! A buttonholer, 9 feet, a couple slide plates, and 7 fashion disks so the machine was worth the price. Besides, I have a bobbin case for my 319w, so I can use either machine - the problem is a friend wants this 306w to put in a treadle so I will need to find a bobbin case! http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/3030319283.html
Nancy
I just picked up this 306w! I don't want the cabinet - we will probably make a dump haul with it! The machine looks to be a very good shape, but it is missing its bobbin case! What is it with these bobbin cases? I only gave $25 for the machine without the bobbin case! I know the 206, 306, 319 all take a special 'L' bobbin, special 206x13 needles - so I assume the bobbin case will be hard to find! I was not willing to pay more than $25 without the case! The cabinet was full of stuff! A buttonholer, 9 feet, a couple slide plates, and 7 fashion disks so the machine was worth the price. Besides, I have a bobbin case for my 319w, so I can use either machine - the problem is a friend wants this 306w to put in a treadle so I will need to find a bobbin case! http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/3030319283.html
Nancy
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Joe, I have taken a couple classes on the 221/301 and always been told the bobbins were unique to those machines! What an interesting bit of information! Please post a photo of the Singer 9W -7. I have a Singer 9W. Is the 9W-7 different? I need to go take that machine out and look at the bobbin!
What we all learn here is amazing and so much fun! This thing with the 306w and the 306k just amazes me too!
Nancy
What we all learn here is amazing and so much fun! This thing with the 306w and the 306k just amazes me too!
Nancy
Here you go:
Front:
Back:
Round end:
Prickly end:
Bobbin carrier w/bobbin:
Bobbin comparison montage:
In the last picture the bobbin on the left is the one out of the 9W-7. The one on the right came from our FW. Two peas from the same pod.
I have read, that the -7 indicates the change where Singer went to the 221 style bobbin. Not positive that's correct, but it sticks in my mind.
Joe
That is a nice looking 201-2, Nancy, too bad about the case.
Monica, I got brave and took apart my Spartan, to change the race wick. At first I thought I would just clean the area, and not change the wick, but it was pretty bad. I have a question the screw (wire spring looking) that holds the wick, did not come out, the wick came out, without any trouble. Do I have to remove the screw to put the new wick in? Any tips or suggestions. I hope I can put it back together. I have a 66-1 that will be next when the Spartan is all done. Thank you! Anamaria
Monica, I got brave and took apart my Spartan, to change the race wick. At first I thought I would just clean the area, and not change the wick, but it was pretty bad. I have a question the screw (wire spring looking) that holds the wick, did not come out, the wick came out, without any trouble. Do I have to remove the screw to put the new wick in? Any tips or suggestions. I hope I can put it back together. I have a 66-1 that will be next when the Spartan is all done. Thank you! Anamaria
To remove the screw from ejector bar, you will have to gently turn the screw counter clockwise. Since you were able to remove wick without removing screw, you have two opinions now. You can try to remove screw to clean it up, or you can leave it. If it looks like it doesn't want to come out because of dirt and rust, try soaking it in oil for some time. If you decide to leave it just screw the wick into the screw.
I know that you most likely want that cleaned up too since you are very meticulous in your cleaning. You machines shine beautiful after your cleaning!
Here are some photos of that screw that you are referring to in the ejector bar. Also photos of how to cut a spool felt for the wick to fit into the spring. Plus, a photo of the wick resting against the race.
Cleaning the race and changing the wick makes a huge difference in the quality of the stitching.
Hopefully the photos are of help!
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I'm here! I just thought between you, Candace, and Cathy's knowledge all would be told, and that no research would be needed. Sometimes it is interesting to see what others know and wish to share. Since I do not own a Singer 306 or 206 and I prefer machines that use 15x1 needles, there is little for me to contribute. I don't recall any interesting youtube videos, other than Dan's, or any blogs sites for any of these machines. But if I do come across one, I'll bookmark it!
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What????? We have all been told repeatedly and with certainty that those small bobbins only fit the 221 and 301. Something new every day!! That's for sure!
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