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Thread: Another Scary Thing About Meat

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    I heard this on the news this morning.

    You know how we're not supposed to take too many antibiotics, because it results in drug-resistant bacteria?

    And you know most meat animals are given antibiotics to keep them free of infection?

    Well, now they've found that American meat has a lot of drug-resistant bacteria in it. And we're eating that meat! :|

    I guess it's more important that ever to cook meat thoroughly. Or go vegan. (Because if drug-resistant bacteria is in the animals, it must get into their milk, too.)

    I just wanted to throw this out there for your thoughts. It hasn't yet stopped me from eating meat, but it's scary. And why didn't anyone realize this would happen?

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    it doesn't scare me at all.

    i don't eat raw meat and i cook it using common sense.

    this is just another example of artificial hype and hysteria generated by nanny staters and news media with air space to fill. that's space in their transmission feeds AND space between their ears. :roll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriceJ
    it doesn't scare me at all.

    i don't eat raw meat and i cook it using common sense.

    this is just another example of artificial hype and hysteria generated by nanny staters and news media with air space to fill. that's space in their transmission feeds AND space between their ears. :roll:
    Well said Patrice!!

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    That's not hype. It's the truth.
    We try to buy from local farmers whenever possible and only those who don't give them antibiotics.

    I'm surprised you heard about it. The food industry does everything it can to keep things like that from the public.
    It's all about making the most, the fastest, the biggest,the cheapest, etc to get to the consumer.

    The only reason I know about all this is b/c I'm a nurse and my husband is a food scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriceJ
    it doesn't scare me at all.

    i don't eat raw meat and i cook it using common sense.

    this is just another example of artificial hype and hysteria generated by nanny staters and news media with air space to fill. that's space in their transmission feeds AND space between their ears. :roll:


    :-D :-D :-D :-D Just like the H1N1 (I think it was called vaccinations). One could only hesitate to guess what the true agenda behind this one is?????? For those of us that have lived though all the hype and fears set forth upon us for years that have changed as often sometimes as we change our underwear this is yet another example of as Patrice says the nanny state gone wild. Unfortunately it has gone to such extremes I wonder how the people that believe this stuff get up in the morning. Somehow common sense has been so marginalized in our society people have forgotten to think for themselves and believe in what they know is true.

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    I don't think many people eat raw meat (although a lot of it gets served rare) but I resent having to treat my cutting board and utensils that may have touched the raw meat, as if they were toxic.
    Veggies are much easier to deal with IMHO.

    I agree somewhat about the nanny state, but it reminds me of something I saw on PBS recently, about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, where so many women died 100 years ago. They said, "If you want to know what industry would be like, free of government regulations, this is it."
    I don't want to go back to those days when we had to worry about the safety of our food. Look at the recent problem with the Sara Lee lunch meats, they knew it was making people sick and they kept producing them. Profit rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptquilts
    I don't think many people eat raw meat (although a lot of it gets served rare) but I resent having to treat my cutting board and utensils that may have touched the raw meat, as if they were toxic.
    Veggies are much easier to deal with IMHO.

    I agree somewhat about the nanny state, but it reminds me of something I saw on PBS recently, about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, where so many women died 100 years ago. They said, "If you want to know what industry would be like, free of government regulations, this is it."
    I don't want to go back to those days when we had to worry about the safety of our food. Look at the recent problem with the Sara Lee lunch meats, they knew it was making people sick and they kept producing them. Profit rules.
    I hear you, but what about the ingredients listed on products. They are finding more and more that especially for diabetics the label is incorrect and there is sugar in the product. Same thing for gluten free and others. IMHO, we the consumer have to educate ourselves and use our common sense in whatever we may purchase. There are so many products out there that say this was processed in an area with peanuts or somesuch...which doesn't make it safe for people with peanut allergies. That's one reason we eat as fresh as possible because you cannot trust the food inspectors who are supposed to be making sure our food is okay for comsumption. There are not enough of them to check all the foods available for purchase. Where were the food inspectors when pets were dying because of the junk in it from China? Now we also feed our pets a natural diet. Just something else to throw into the mix.

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    Quiltmaker, I know what you mean. You really do have to educate yourself.
    I also get tired of scares and stuff like that but so much of our food is really bad.
    Our immune systems are there to help us but I really try to watch what I put in my body. I'm the only one who can. :)

    Several years ago my liver enzymes were elevated and long story short I was eating wayyyyy too much sugar. I changed my eating habits and my enzymes returned to normal. It was scary for me but good thing I changed. Now it's only the occasional coke or pepsi. I still eat sweets but far less and I feel a lot better. I'm not fanatical but I swear my liver enyzme tests scared the heck out of me!!
    My body just doesn't handle all that stuff. Kind of off topic, sorry!! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by sueisallaboutquilts
    Quiltmaker, I know what you mean. You really do have to educate yourself.
    I also get tired of scares and stuff like that but so much of our food is really bad.
    Our immune systems are there to help us but I really try to watch what I put in my body. I'm the only one who can. :)

    Several years ago my liver enzymes were elevated and long story short I was eating wayyyyy too much sugar. I changed my eating habits and my enzymes returned to normal. It was scary for me but good thing I changed. Now it's only the occasional coke or pepsi. I still eat sweets but far less and I feel a lot better. I'm not fanatical but I swear my liver enyzme tests scared the heck out of me!!
    My body just doesn't handle all that stuff. Kind of off topic, sorry!! :D
    I sure understand you. Have you tried Agave for a sugar substitute. It has very little reaction on your blood sugar levels. We eat Paleo and Gluten free here and it was a major change for us but we feel wonderful and our bloodwork is about as good as one can get it. It's amazing what one can get used to when they are trying for optimum health results using the most natural ways we are able to... not that we're where we want to be as it is a commited process. And yes we do cheat on occasion but after changing your habits it is amazing that what we used to love just doesn't seem to taste as good anymore. We're all different so what works for some doesn't work for others. :-D

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    Another option is to hunt for your own meat. I haven't bought meat in a grocery store in years. Our cholesterol levels look great despite the fact we eat "red" meat 5 + days per week. Our kids are lean and very healthy, and they think that fast food burgers taste "funny."

    I know that some people of opposed to hunting but it is a natural order of things and it is a healthy alternative to store bought. We hunt what we eat (turkey, ducks, geese, deer, wild boar, even bear) and raise our own vegetables also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiltmaker
    Quote Originally Posted by sueisallaboutquilts
    Quiltmaker, I know what you mean. You really do have to educate yourself.
    I also get tired of scares and stuff like that but so much of our food is really bad.
    Our immune systems are there to help us but I really try to watch what I put in my body. I'm the only one who can. :)

    Several years ago my liver enzymes were elevated and long story short I was eating wayyyyy too much sugar. I changed my eating habits and my enzymes returned to normal. It was scary for me but good thing I changed. Now it's only the occasional coke or pepsi. I still eat sweets but far less and I feel a lot better. I'm not fanatical but I swear my liver enyzme tests scared the heck out of me!!
    My body just doesn't handle all that stuff. Kind of off topic, sorry!! :D
    I sure understand you. Have you tried Agave for a sugar substitute. It has very little reaction on your blood sugar levels. We eat Paleo and Gluten free here and it was a major change for us but we feel wonderful and our bloodwork is about as good as one can get it. It's amazing what one can get used to when they are trying for optimum health results using the most natural ways we are able to... not that we're where we want to be as it is a commited process. And yes we do cheat on occasion but after changing your habits it is amazing that what we used to love just doesn't seem to taste as good anymore. We're all different so what works for some doesn't work for others. :-D
    No I haven't. I need to ask my "mad scientist" DH about it. I've heard of it.
    I also agree with you that the more you DON'T indulge in junk the more we don't want it. In fact if I eat certain things I used to love my body reacts and I'm not exaggerating!
    Our bodies know what we need- at least mine does. It lets me know!
    My DH is making gluten-free brownies and cookies right now. He is selling them locally and hopes to get them marketed online. They are unbelievably yummy but I don't eat them much. If I start with sweets it's like an alcoholic with alcohol. I just can't stop! It's definitely an addiction with me :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by sueisallaboutquilts
    We try to buy from local farmers whenever possible and only those who don't give them antibiotics.
    I had been buying the antibiotic-free beef and chicken, but of course restaurants don't, and of course it costs more.

    To whoever used the term "nanny state," it isn't a law that meat animals be given antibiotics. And I cannot see why anyone would oppose requiring that food say what is in it on the labels.

    For example, almost all regular table salt is now made with an aluminum compound "for anti-caking." Oh, please! I'd rather have to shake my salt loose than ingest aluminum. Without the labelling requirements, though, we'd never guess it was there.

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    i think most of us would agree that we'd like to know what we're eating.

    that isn't my point.

    i just don't worry about germs on meat because i don't eat it raw. i also don't lick the counter, cutting board or knife when i've finished the prep.

    problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriceJ
    i think most of us would agree that we'd like to know what we're eating.

    that isn't my point.

    i just don't worry about germs on meat because i don't eat it raw. i also don't lick the counter, cutting board or knife when i've finished the prep.

    problem solved.
    Not sure your post was the one I was replying to. But in any case, no one eats meat raw. However, I do prefer my burgers and steaks medium rare.

    The point is, while I'm sure we all take care to keep our meat safe to eat, there are times when food poisoning occurs. And when it does, if the bacteria are the drug-resistant kind, that could kill you.

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    I read all about the meat and antibiotics too....really scary!! I trully believe that these additives are the underlying cause of alot of the cancer, autism, and other problems that are just skyrocketing in numbers. I for one am living with an incurable form of leukemia. If they cannot find the cause, then that cannot design a cure I was told. Sad what is happening, and I fear for the next generations. Scary that I could contract a drug resistant form of bacteria from handling meat that I want to prepare for a meal. My immune system wouldn't be able to handle it on a good day, never mind now that it is compromised. We need to pray that they can ammend these problems before it is too late.

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