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    Old 03-21-2010, 08:32 AM
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    Originally Posted by butterflywing
    Originally Posted by JoanneS
    Originally Posted by granny_59
    Hi Karen

    I figured out what PC means but dont have the slidest idea what "pet peeve" means. I am a foreigner and english is not my mothertongue.
    Sorry for being boring but I dont consider myself as PC. I think it is in the human nature to make jokes about everything that scares or is hard to deal with. A couple of days ago there was a joke about dementia and I loved it. My mother died two years ago after suffering from Alzheimer for several years.

    I just dont see the point what is so unbearable or scary about foreign human beings that you have to make jokes like that.
    If you had to sit with your 90 year old mother in an ER in Tucson for 5 hours while people with less-than-emergency problems were taken ahead of you, you'd understand why we laugh at this joke. We're laughing because it would probably work, and it's BETTER THAN CRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom was in pain, but in the ER in southern Arizona you 'take a number and wait' unless you're bleeding, have a bone sticking out or obviously having a heart attack - even if you're brought in an ambulance.

    This happened with my Mom's pain from shingles over and over until she finally broke out in the shingles rash and could be diagnosed.

    Frankly, I'm in favor of straightening out our immigration problem and our health insurance problems so NO ONE has to go to ERs for routine medical care. Unfortunately, that's what happens - and not just in the states that border Mexico.
    i agree - there are illegals here not only from mexico but from all of our borders. along both coastlines there are port cities and along the northern border people cross over from canada. and i don't mean canadiens. it makes me sick to think of the money wasted trying to track down illegals working here and paying taxes who we'll never find. if people have jobs, pay taxes, SPEAK ENGLISH, don't have police records and have managed to hide here for 5 years, let them take the damn test. and then let them pay for their own medical like i do. their children are americans anyway, and will come back as soon as they're grown, so who're we kidding? we have "upstanding citizens' who can't read, are in and out of prison, won't work, and are a complete drain on my money. they get drunk and drive and their kids learn the same behaviour. keep out any more illegals and go after the ones that try to beat the system. but don't push out the ones that help keep the economy going. a lot of those people are doing jobs that no one else wants to do, and if they all vanished you'd see an awful lot of businesses go straight down the tubes, taking a lot of jobs with them.

    whew! too liberal for some. not liberal enough for others. can't be all things to all people. rant over!
    This proves my point about this not being a joke or funny, and shouldn't disguised that way. I don't mean any offense, but felt like I had to say something because the "joke" bothered me. I hope we can bypass an us or them argument, because that is certainly not my intention. Sorry for any negative vibes I may have generated.
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    Old 03-21-2010, 08:54 AM
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    Originally Posted by DebraK
    Originally Posted by butterflywing
    Originally Posted by JoanneS
    Originally Posted by granny_59
    Hi Karen

    I figured out what PC means but dont have the slidest idea what "pet peeve" means. I am a foreigner and english is not my mothertongue.
    Sorry for being boring but I dont consider myself as PC. I think it is in the human nature to make jokes about everything that scares or is hard to deal with. A couple of days ago there was a joke about dementia and I loved it. My mother died two years ago after suffering from Alzheimer for several years.

    I just dont see the point what is so unbearable or scary about foreign human beings that you have to make jokes like that.
    If you had to sit with your 90 year old mother in an ER in Tucson for 5 hours while people with less-than-emergency problems were taken ahead of you, you'd understand why we laugh at this joke. We're laughing because it would probably work, and it's BETTER THAN CRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom was in pain, but in the ER in southern Arizona you 'take a number and wait' unless you're bleeding, have a bone sticking out or obviously having a heart attack - even if you're brought in an ambulance.

    This happened with my Mom's pain from shingles over and over until she finally broke out in the shingles rash and could be diagnosed.

    Frankly, I'm in favor of straightening out our immigration problem and our health insurance problems so NO ONE has to go to ERs for routine medical care. Unfortunately, that's what happens - and not just in the states that border Mexico.
    i agree - there are illegals here not only from mexico but from all of our borders. along both coastlines there are port cities and along the northern border people cross over from canada. and i don't mean canadiens. it makes me sick to think of the money wasted trying to track down illegals working here and paying taxes who we'll never find. if people have jobs, pay taxes, SPEAK ENGLISH, don't have police records and have managed to hide here for 5 years, let them take the damn test. and then let them pay for their own medical like i do. their children are americans anyway, and will come back as soon as they're grown, so who're we kidding? we have "upstanding citizens' who can't read, are in and out of prison, won't work, and are a complete drain on my money. they get drunk and drive and their kids learn the same behaviour. keep out any more illegals and go after the ones that try to beat the system. but don't push out the ones that help keep the economy going. a lot of those people are doing jobs that no one else wants to do, and if they all vanished you'd see an awful lot of businesses go straight down the tubes, taking a lot of jobs with them.

    whew! too liberal for some. not liberal enough for others. can't be all things to all people. rant over!
    This proves my point about this not being a joke or funny, and shouldn't disguised that way. I don't mean any offense, but felt like I had to say something because the "joke" bothered me. I hope we can bypass an us or them argument, because that is certainly not my intention. Sorry for any negative vibes I may have generated.
    what creates the problem is not funny at all and we won't get into that here.
    undocumented workers, however, are not supposed to be here and i think we can all agree on that.
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    Old 03-21-2010, 10:23 AM
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    I'm all for not getting into that here. Happy sewing, quilter friend ;-)
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    Old 03-21-2010, 11:40 PM
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    Originally Posted by JoanneS
    Originally Posted by granny_59
    Hi Karen

    I figured out what PC means but dont have the slidest idea what "pet peeve" means. I am a foreigner and english is not my mothertongue.
    Sorry for being boring but I dont consider myself as PC. I think it is in the human nature to make jokes about everything that scares or is hard to deal with. A couple of days ago there was a joke about dementia and I loved it. My mother died two years ago after suffering from Alzheimer for several years.

    I just dont see the point what is so unbearable or scary about foreign human beings that you have to make jokes like that.
    If you had to sit with your 90 year old mother in an ER in Tucson for 5 hours while people with less-than-emergency problems were taken ahead of you, you'd understand why we laugh at this joke. We're laughing because it would probably work, and it's BETTER THAN CRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom was in pain, but in the ER in southern Arizona you 'take a number and wait' unless you're bleeding, have a bone sticking out or obviously having a heart attack - even if you're brought in an ambulance.

    This happened with my Mom's pain from shingles over and over until she finally broke out in the shingles rash and could be diagnosed.

    Frankly, I'm in favor of straightening out our immigration problem and our health insurance problems so NO ONE has to go to ERs for routine medical care. Unfortunately, that's what happens - and not just in the states that border Mexico.
    This is so true, I cant get help, I am disabled and cant work, but I cant even get welfare. I have worked all my life and now I cant. I cant get more than half of my medacation. we have lost are home we have lost everything because we cant get help. I am praying that I can get SSS. this is why it is funny, not because you are from a diffarent country, but because of the people who come to ours ilegale and take all they can get, and then people like me who was borned here cant get any help. I call that a very sad day when are country cant help there own. Penny
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    Old 03-22-2010, 08:51 AM
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    [quote=penny doty
    This is so true, I cant get help, I am disabled and cant work, but I cant even get welfare. I have worked all my life and now I cant. I cant get more than half of my medacation. we have lost are home we have lost everything because we cant get help. I am praying that I can get SSS. this is why it is funny, not because you are from a diffarent country, but because of the people who come to ours ilegale and take all they can get, and then people like me who was borned here cant get any help. I call that a very sad day when are country cant help there own. Penny[/quote]

    Penny - have you applied for Medicaid or contacted you Cong. Representative? Also, now that the Health Care Bill has passed, I hope you'll be able to get some help.
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    Old 03-22-2010, 09:03 AM
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    i know exatly what you are going through luckly my house is paid off so i don't have a mortage i have been fighting ss since 2007 i have apealed twice and am on my third i finnaly have a hearing comming up in a month good luck i don't know how far you are in your calim bt is can take up to 10 yrs as i understand hve you attorney put you on the hardship list that does help to speed thing up i hope you have a good attorney if not i would contact one or ss will just push your case back the ss attorneys work on stigincy which means they don't get opaid unless you win they can only take 25 percent up 3,000 so there will bw some left ss now only pays back 2 yrs unless you are like my applied before sept 2008 than they will pay back to the date you filed good luck and god bless i will pray [quote=JoanneS]
    Originally Posted by penny doty
    This is so true, I cant get help, I am disabled and cant work, but I cant even get welfare. I have worked all my life and now I cant. I cant get more than half of my medacation. we have lost are home we have lost everything because we cant get help. I am praying that I can get SSS. this is why it is funny, not because you are from a diffarent country, but because of the people who come to ours ilegale and take all they can get, and then people like me who was borned here cant get any help. I call that a very sad day when are country cant help there own. Penny[/quote

    Penny - have you applied for Medicaid or contacted you Cong. Representative? Also, now that the Health Care Bill has passed, I hope you'll be able to get some help.
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    Old 03-22-2010, 10:45 AM
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    [quote=minnow895]i know exatly what you are going through luckly my house is paid off so i don't have a mortage i have been fighting ss since 2007 i have apealed twice and am on my third i finnaly have a hearing comming up in a month good luck i don't know how far you are in your calim bt is can take up to 10 yrs as i understand hve you attorney put you on the hardship list that does help to speed thing up i hope you have a good attorney if not i would contact one or ss will just push your case back the ss attorneys work on stigincy which means they don't get opaid unless you win they can only take 25 percent up 3,000 so there will bw some left ss now only pays back 2 yrs unless you are like my applied before sept 2008 than they will pay back to the date you filed good luck and god bless i will pray
    Originally Posted by JoanneS
    Originally Posted by penny doty
    This is so true, I cant get help, I am disabled and cant work, but I cant even get welfare. I have worked all my life and now I cant. I cant get more than half of my medacation. we have lost are home we have lost everything because we cant get help. I am praying that I can get SSS. this is why it is funny, not because you are from a diffarent country, but because of the people who come to ours ilegale and take all they can get, and then people like me who was borned here cant get any help. I call that a very sad day when are country cant help there own. Penny[/quote

    Penny - have you applied for Medicaid or contacted you Cong. Representative? Also, now that the Health Care Bill has passed, I hope you'll be able to get some help.
    I just had a phone confrence with SSS two weeks ago, and have not heard back from them, and just this morning they took are $50.00 a month food stamps away. when will the blows end. I dont think I can handle much more. In another month they will take the pain med away because they want a MRI and want to send me to a pain clinic. but I have no money to do any of that. If they do take my pain meds away, I could not go on, it would be to much. Penny
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    You are so funny. Would this work on the golf course! I am looking forward to golfing again which means that I will not be quilting as much....Barbara
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    all of that have applied for sssmhave applied for medica the onkly way to get that assistance is either be a sin gle pregnaut woman married with childern father not working or single parrent or a illeage the rest of us born in the us are throwen to the trash oh wem have this great program in iowa call iowa cares i relly like to think of it as iowa dosent care they just want you tom spend what you have left for this program you get free heath care the problem being i dont live in iowa city dont have the gas to drive in this case the van will come and get me but i have to have hotel reservations in iowa city staying with a friend or relativ wont do you have to stay in the hotel and pay for meals the last time to iowa city it cst about 200 dollars buy the time i paid the hotel and meals and cag fair to the clinic cheaper to go to the doc here in town we also have a county clinic closer buy you can get madical on a program according to your income you can also get free medicn trouble ther is a two year wait to get5 in to see a doctor untill your name comes up on the waiting list for emergsncys you can go to the clinic and put your name in and wait for some one to miss and apointment that could take several days of wating to get in the clinic is filled with non speaking people that are illeagle so pleas tell me how if i applie for medicad i would have to fake a pregnance no0t easy to do after my first phone conferance it took 9 months to here i wasn't diabled according to them now on third appeal where you go befor the appeals boardni got a better chance with an attorney also 7 doctors supporting this i was a truck driver made a lot of money now i get food stamps i had a ijurty on the job now i have siezures sever pain limited motion the siezures are untreated no nuoligest will see me with out insurance i shure do hop this vote helps us and i hope all the funds they are talking aboutm dosent go to the illeagles
    sorry to rant on like this but i agrree with penny it get realyy frustrating when doctors wont let you work and your stuck out in the cold in this great nation that i paid hundreds of dollars in taxes everyear to suppport our great nation god bless penny keep up the hope trust in god he doesw answer prayers he has mine i still have my home also call you local church the do have funds to help people like us i know my catholic church is helping me i just hope i can pay back the church somday
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    Old 03-22-2010, 01:38 PM
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    I don't understand what anyone is worked up about. Take the joke at face value. No one should feel insulted unless they're here illegally. Sometimes, a joke is just a joke.......
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