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    Smile Machine Embroidery Experts, I have a question.......

    I have just started to build my library of embroidery files on my computer. My problem is that its difficult to manage because after I store them I cant really tell what they look like stitched out. Is there a software package out there that I can purchase that will show something like "thumbnails" when I open my folders? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated !!! Thanks in advance.
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    I'm not by far an expert but I have the Viking Ruby and it came with a baseline software package and when I save my files with it I can see what they are. I download them all into an orders file and then separate them into folders; like holidays and then I put in sub folders for what the holidays are like Easter. I have folders for kids, decor, etc. I'm not sure what machine you have or if you got any software but if you do a search on this board I think there are a few free base line programs out there and emblibrary.com recommends embrid for storage and a whole lot more. I hope this helps. It's such a learning process and sometimes it's by trial and error to find out how to fix your problems with embroidery. I've been trying since Christmas to do free standing lace using the cone polyester thread without breaking all the time and it's taken me until this past weekend to finally get it right. Now maybe the next time I can finish a project on time. Of course I can now finish the Christmas ornaments and Easter baskets for next year and I'll be a head of the game. Let me know if I can help you at all and I'll do my best to try.
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    Thank you Judy for all the info. My machine is a Babylock Ellisimo. When I get home tonight I will go through all the literature that came with it to see if there is something there for me to use. It could be there and I just missed it. Thanks again for the help !! Kim
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    Have a look at Embird, it is a long time since I purchased my embird, but I think once you buy one of the add one you are then able to see your designs, sorry I can't be of more help but go to secrets of embroidery. Com and ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraftykimberly View Post
    Thank you Judy for all the info. My machine is a Babylock Ellisimo. When I get home tonight I will go through all the literature that came with it to see if there is something there for me to use. It could be there and I just missed it. Thanks again for the help !! Kim
    Hi Kim, I bought the Ellisimo new a year ago and it didn't come with any software. I don't think they changed that with the new Gold version. I think there are some pretty inexpensive packages out there that you can buy that will do what you need.

    Are you a member of any of the Brother Quattro or Babylock Ellisimo groups on Yahoo? If not, you might want to join. I belong to three of them and the members are pretty informed (not me though ). There is one group that won't allow brand names to be mentioned but the group policies will indicate that.

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    Embroidery Library just had an outstanding tutorial on how to organize designs. I use that format because I like to be able to see what the design will look like. I use the categories that are used at that website, and have subfolders for individual designs.

    I always print the color sheet before I embroider a design, and file it in a notebook. I make notations on it to reflect thread colors that I use, in case I want to repeat the design.

    Here's the link to the tutorial: http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/elproje...oductID=PR1735

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    Wanda, thanks for posting this. I didn't know that you could save the picture of the design. Since I buy a lot of designs from emblibrary, this will be so much easier than how I've been viewing the designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WandaVA View Post
    Embroidery Library just had an outstanding tutorial on how to organize designs. I use that format because I like to be able to see what the design will look like. I use the categories that are used at that website, and have subfolders for individual designs.

    I always print the color sheet before I embroider a design, and file it in a notebook. I make notations on it to reflect thread colors that I use, in case I want to repeat the design.

    Here's the link to the tutorial: http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/elproje...oductID=PR1735
    I also love this site and buy alot from them. I wanted to let you all know that one thing that I have learned is depending on the format you download your color sheets may be off. At first I downloaded all of mine as HUS; Viking but I was noticing the colors weren't so true showing up on my machines screen so I download them as VP3 also Viking and they are more true then. I went back and redownloaded them all as VP3 for future use.
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    Romanojg, I use sewiconz software from www.sandscomputing.com It will show all formats of designs and also clipart.
    I love having it on my computer.
    Jessie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie 2 View Post
    Romanojg, I use sewiconz software from www.sandscomputing.com It will show all formats of designs and also clipart.
    I love having it on my computer.
    Jessie
    The problem wasn't on my pc it was on the embroidery machine screen; the colors weren't showing up as on the color sheet. My machine came with the baseline 5D embroidery program and it shows all formats and my machine supports many if not all of them. I had just noticed that the color icons for the threads weren't as true in HUS format. I was also getting ready to post here for those who are interested here is a link for a free software for embroidery. I don't know how good it is or how much functionality it has but I had gotten the link from here a while back but I'm getting ready to check it out. Later on after my machine is paid down more and I have the time to take the classes I want to get the big 5D package so that I can learn how to manipulate the designs and make them the way I want them. Right now my schedule won't fit anymore classes into it but later on this year it's going to happen. Here's the link;
    http://www.freesierrasoftware.com/

    Thanks for your link as well and I'll check it out.
    Judy

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    You can also get a free copy of Pulse Ambassador. It will open the files and actually you do a few things with it.
    http://www.thegreenthread.com/2009/0...se-ambassador/

    And yes, you have to figure out the colors before you load the design to your machine. Your machine screen will not display the correct colors. Some formats will be closer than others, but you won't get true color.
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    Just another suggestion...........purchase an external hard drive for your designs............I crashed and luckly I was able to retreve most of mine. I now put them on the external just for safe keeping. And with my first emb. machine I had the basic software...........one additional program I purchased that was Buzz Tools. I like that program so much. And as for colors I just looked at the design and did values like is the green light-medium-or dark needed...............have fun........I too am still learning from my software.............calla

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    Okay, I have been Creating Designs and collection my Share of designs sense may of 1998.. 4 emabroidery machines my self all Different Formats.
    When I purchased my first machine I had been doing the research and Learned that I would need some kind of machine format program to do all of the abouve, So I purchased the Bernina Artista Software, That gave me my ART format colors when opened.... but it is all dependant on the Digitizer and what format they Digitize in? the Original File.
    But all of the Big companies all will have a Color sheet to go with each Design, Emblibrary, Dakota, OESD, This is how it works... even Design packs at Your machine Dealers will come with color Charts.

    There is a Major reason for this!

    Even the Big large Companies do not own all of the Software programs put out by all of the machine Companies...
    I own Artista, (ART) format.. and Wilcom (EMB).

    But, I will work designs in both formats to get better functions, and options in each program.. I also save in different formats as they do funny things with the coding of the design when saved or Converted. some add Stitches, Some loose Stitches, and some Formats will give you funky colors.

    The machines do not See Real colors... the Design is programed with STOPS... so if there is 10 colors in your Design, then there will be 10 Color stops.. well if I stitck to only one digitizing program like Artista (ART).. Then saved it into ART format, then and only then will I see it open with the correct 10 colors!!!!

    But, if some one opening it in (PES), Brother machine Format, he may have 10 colors but they will be all funky colors.
    and PES when I convert, from Artista will 100% of the time change my design, it will Add unwanted stitches, or subtract stitches, or even turn a Jump stitch in a Stitched down Running stitch right across your work...

    I have two of the most costly Embroidery programs and there are things I like and hate about each of them..
    I also Use Buzz tools a lot when Converting machine formats for all of my Customers.

    So say after I create lets see like 10 designs, and save them to (DST ) machine format, Commercial based machine format I find id the best. then I could Zip up all ten of then and (Only) sale them to DST machine format owners only!!!

    but what about the other 18 Machine format owners out there???? Brother, Phaff, Singer, Husk, and the off market Machines out there????

    I am out out about $10,000. already Just for the Software's I have. so there is no way anyone, even the Large companies have all of them on the Market. so this is why the need of the Color Charts....

    As if I save in say, (ART Format, then Convert to (PES) those colors are changed by the Software. and even the machine.. because the Defualts are all Different in each software and Machine....

    It might read, Thread color ARC Poly thread code #00231, as Some other Number or some other brand!! so now we have 18 to 20 Machine Formats to deal with, and we now have what 10 or Brands of Thread colors to deal with anywhere from 200 colors to 4oo colors, whew, I tired of even typing all of this let alone know all of this Information.

    Sure Ipurchased my First level of ARTISTA (ART) in may of 1998 for $2000. then paid for classes and spent 3 years learning it, it had what 4 main brands of Thread charts stored in it, and 10 main Machine Formats stored in the software, all of that had to be coded into the software, so the Company pick the most used and put it in there. Great, for Home machines this is what I was told the best TOL, Top of the Line, Software... so I am good right?
    wrong when I saved my Design a ART format to PES... then some one with PES got it and opened it, she says hey why does my lady have green skin???? Hummm, when I open it in my machine in art as I saved it the lady looks Normal!!!!! well guess what being that PEDesign software did not use the same Code Writing software as Benina did as they are a smaller software company or for some reason so they only coded in 2 mail thread charts and only put in 200 color coded comands in their software....
    So you Remeber my 10 color design??? well lets say I am using a color skem mucth like we do in quilting, say DK, Pink, and Med Pink, and last Light pink.... well that pes software only would put in two pinks coding, or two of a shade thinking that is close enough! but wait she opened my 10 color design and got funky colors, why because her software did color coding and designs different and just combined those pink into the ones it had coding for!!!
    Well now you loose a color the software conbined them, and now when she opens her software she gets the design with only 9 Colors in it!!! Not good as the whole design is there, but now 2 colors will be only 1 color.

    But wait not finished, the Software keeps getting upgraded to more and more color Charts and Machine formats so now I have to every 4 years Buy the upgrade to keep up with the changes, $599.00 every 4 years for most companies.

    so now we have 20 Machine formats but thereis always some companies behind the time or less to purchase so you get different formatting and color coding..

    That is why we can not purchase every Machine Software, and every single up grade to all of these just to keep up with this years new Machine with yet another format, VP3, ot DST, PES, XXX,VIP, SHV, SEW, HUS, ARTV2, ARTV3,ARTV4, ARTV5, and ARTV6...or EMB, PCS, JEF, CSD,... no one could keep up with it all and switch and save each..
    I Hope this helps more understand why there is a need for so much software and why so many do things different?
    These machine companies do not want to make this unisom, or easy for us or they would not make the Money...
    did you know that the (ART) owned by Bernina or OESD, will not let any of the other Machine companies put the coding into their software........all companies have the same on other things they own and want to keep private for their own customers. that makes it even hard for the customers as well as the software writers...

    Well I know what does this have to do with cataloging Pictures? well it is about pictures and when you open it with one software why you see green heads or will not load at all because the same for their software unless it cost a fortune and has every single code up to dat for every machine format??? it will look funny when you open with your software..
    Remember the machine companies will not sale them the rights to load their design info, so that makes it hard on all software writing company..

    so they all will not do everything, or own everything and have everything for one reason!!!! CONTROL....
    Linda Watts
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    I'm not sure if this will be helpful but I bought a program called Catalog It when I realized I was building a stash of designs that could compete with my stash of fabric. I have all my designs in folders but I can't view them. When put in Catalog It, I can view the design, see the size of the design, see what the stitch count is, how many thread colors are used, and I use Isacord thread and I can set it to show me what thread colors I need to use.

    Sometimes I download designs and don't have time to renamed them and then forget what they are. I have a file in Catalog It called "Unknown Designs". I put them in there and then I can see what they look like and rename them and put them in an appropriate category.

    I paid $100 for it but Sewforless has it for $80. I think it's a very worthwhile purchase.
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    lalaland, that sounds perfect for what I need. Im going now to check it out. Thanks so much !!!!!! Kim
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    Quote Originally Posted by kraftykimberly View Post
    I have just started to build my library of embroidery files on my computer. My problem is that its difficult to manage because after I store them I cant really tell what they look like stitched out. Is there a software package out there that I can purchase that will show something like "thumbnails" when I open my folders? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated !!! Thanks in advance.
    I use PED basic....software download and then separate file for "brother downloads" which show up in the PED file so you can see them....works for me
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    One more bit of advice - I have been buying embroidery library's designs for over 10 years now and they stitch out beautifully (I have 2 tol sewing/embroidery machines and a 10 needle embroidery machine), as well as other sergers, sewing, quilting machines.

    BUT, when you download your designs from EL: When you do the save, you will notice that the name for the design is just numbers - BEFORE saving, type in the Actual name of the design infront of those numbers, then hit save. The first few years I didn't do this and basiclaly never really knew what designs I had.

    Agree with other lady also on getting an external back up drive for all those embroidery (free and purchased) designs, as well as photos, videos and documents. I have the clickfree, plus 3 more external drives. I do this the 1st of every month. It only takes one time for a computer to lose all your valuable photos and designs to realize the importance of this - Ask me how I know (grrrrrrrrrrrr).

    Also, make categories for saving - even if basic: Animals, redwork, fsl, children, holidays, etc. and save your designs in those sub folders fromt he start. I have a folder for each year (EX: 2012 bought emb des - and 2012 emb des), and then sub folders under those. That way the folders aren't so large you wait forever to open them. And I do like to have my bought designs seperate.

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    I use SewIconz with Windows and it allows me to see my files in "details, thumbnails, etc." I may have paid $20 dollars for it, I don't believe it was free. Works great for me, as I keep all of my embroider designs in my documents in folders.
    Quote Originally Posted by kraftykimberly View Post
    I have just started to build my library of embroidery files on my computer. My problem is that its difficult to manage because after I store them I cant really tell what they look like stitched out. Is there a software package out there that I can purchase that will show something like "thumbnails" when I open my folders? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated !!! Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie 2 View Post
    Romanojg, I use sewiconz software from www.sandscomputing.com It will show all formats of designs and also clipart.
    I love having it on my computer.
    Jessie

    I have this too and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psthreads View Post
    I have this too and love it.
    Thanks; I have the 5D that came with my Ruby and it displays great. I start by saving all of my designs into a folder called Orders; then when I done downloading I check to make sure I have folders and sub folders created for what ever the designs are and then I save them into the correct folder. I try to rename them when I'm downloading them by doing a 'Save As' but if it's a zipped folder I rename the zipped folder and then rename each design when it goes into it's own folder. I don't like not knowing what something is. This also helps when I copy it onto my USB and pull it up on my machine then I can select it by name and not worry which number it is since there are alot of files on it.

    I'm really liking what I'm seeing on the free software that I mentioned earlier. It is a full editing program that allows editing, etc and that may get me started in that direction until I can afford to buy the big 5D and the classes to fully learn it. The ERA universal software really does look good to me and I like the free part of it.
    Judy

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmw0829 View Post
    Hi Kim, I bought the Ellisimo new a year ago and it didn't come with any software. I don't think they changed that with the new Gold version. I think there are some pretty inexpensive packages out there that you can buy that will do what you need.

    Are you a member of any of the Brother Quattro or Babylock Ellisimo groups on Yahoo? If not, you might want to join. I belong to three of them and the members are pretty informed (not me though ). There is one group that won't allow brand names to be mentioned but the group policies will indicate that.

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    For seeing an exact replica "icon" of what the design is (picture) next to the file name, I use Embrilliance Thumbnailer - think I bought from Designs in Machine Embroidery (you can google it) for $39.95 and I found it very worthwhile.

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    I re-named the files with what they actually were...i.e. small turkey gobble gobble is a small turkey with the words gobble gobble at the bottom....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kraftykimberly View Post
    I have just started to build my library of embroidery files on my computer. My problem is that its difficult to manage because after I store them I cant really tell what they look like stitched out. Is there a software package out there that I can purchase that will show something like "thumbnails" when I open my folders? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated !!! Thanks in advance.
    Depends on what machine you are using. Different machines use different software. If you have BuzzExplorer software it will let you convert designs from different software designers to what you have. Also a web site called Wilcom will let you do the same thing and it is free but more difficult to use.
    Hope this helps. If no I'll try to you more info if you can give me more details..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraftykimberly View Post
    I have just started to build my library of embroidery files on my computer. My problem is that its difficult to manage because after I store them I cant really tell what they look like stitched out. Is there a software package out there that I can purchase that will show something like "thumbnails" when I open my folders? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated !!! Thanks in advance.
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