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    I feel chastized because topics keep getting moved and merged (especially when they have nothing to do with each other). Now topics that clearly fell under the General Chit-Chat were moved to Personal Diaries sections and I guess because I posted them merged while they had nothing to do with each other.

    I know the moderators are volunteers so everytime I get one of those little notices I feel guilty... Heck when you go to the main page the Personal Diaries didn't/doesn't even show up - is it new?

    Is there something out there that says nope you have to post here? The description shows general chit chat is anything else not quilt related....the other day I posted under main for suggestions and it was moved to pictures....

    Just trying to understand

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    I have disagreed with the way this section is handled, too. When topics go to the diaries, unless you have a close relationship (friends/families) it seems they disappear and nothing else is much said. I still don't understand why some things aren't left in chit-chat -- after all, to me the chit-chat section is like sitting in our living rooms and talking about anything -- happy, sad, personal, not so personal. I wish the mods would change the way it's handled, too.

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    some of my posts have been moved too. but, I still get posts to them. as long as they are active, people can read your post.
    try tracking them on "My Topics" just under Logout.

    Good luck !

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    I'm a bit frustrated too. I've posted things that got sent to my PDA (which I never started by the way)
    I don't know why they do it.
    I thought a PDA was a choice but I guess not.

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    I can only speak for myself but when I feel a post is something you'd share with a friend, not someone you'd meet on the street I move it to PDA.
    details of illnesses or tragic events I feel are not for the general public.
    like someone said we are volunteers and try to do things the way admin. wants it done, he's the one who chose us, (even tho he's not here anymore)
    if you have a problem with a topic moving or deletion or whatever you can discuss it with the one who moved it and find out why or plead your case or whatever, it's not carved in stone and can be changed,
    we're not trying to throw our weight(buttons) around. ;)

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    Well I know I'm cranky and only on my first cup of coffee (yes I got up late) but I was in general chit chat and see topics that belong in other sub categories....

    I think I a more frustrated at the merged topic because people don't always quote when they reply - which can be good if the oriignal post was long - so I'm trying to read and catch up and can't figure out what people are talking about or replying to....

    Sorry I have 5 kids and have many antidotes and issues I can tattle tale on them about!

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    Probably a good idea to read the rules post of each section that gives guideline on what each area is for.

    PDA is for announcements in your personal life, like a surgery, venting about something that happened etc.

    Here is a link to the rules posting on PDA
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-22099-1.htm

    General chit chat also has a rules posting but here is a cut and paste of the general guidelines out of that rules posting. The rules are always locked bolded topics at the very top of each section. Below is the quote:

    Here are some examples of personal topics that are OK in GCC:

    - Pictures of your family, pets, vacation trips, far-away places, etc.
    - Links to the wacky and way out things you've run across.
    - Seeking advice not related to quilting (example: buying a new camera, do pythons make good pets? how many pecks would a woodchuck pick if a woodchuck could pick pecks?)
    - Positive or neutral events in your life or your surroundings that you feel would be of interest to others.
    - Positive or neutral announcements, such as birthdays, weddings, etc.
    - Consumer alerts that have been confirmed but aren't yet widely publicized.
    - Clean jokes.
    - Major events occurring "right now".
    - Non-quilting group activities (Mare Stare and Word Association Game come to mind).

    The above list is not all-inclusive, but only serves to illustrate the "spirit" of this section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy
    I can only speak for myself but when I feel a post is something you'd share with a friend, not someone you'd meet on the street I move it to PDA.
    details of illnesses or tragic events I feel are not for the general public.
    like someone said we are volunteers and try to do things the way admin. wants it done, he's the one who chose us, (even tho he's not here anymore)
    if you have a problem with a topic moving or deletion or whatever you can discuss it with the one who moved it and find out why or plead your case or whatever, it's not carved in stone and can be changed,
    we're not trying to throw our weight(buttons) around. ;)
    Who am I to argue? I mean I did once...but as stated above - sometimes when a topic gets moved it gets lost people who don't go to the unread topics don't see it...and then when they are merged - like this a.m. I hit my update email to see what someone said and it was in response to something else I spent 5 minutes confused and trying to figure out why the board had put one response to something I put up inside of another.

    I also feel like personal diaries section is something that I would post to like a blog - general chit chat is just that anything but the kitchen sink that I want to lament about.

    I don't get it but I am only on cup of coffee #2

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    AND..... I and a few others are at work while trying to moderate and like 5 kids, it's hard to keep up with everything.
    AND.... I don't know how to merge topics but have seen some that I would have if I could.
    also, I'm guilty of not reading the whole post, if I open and see pictures.... I move it to pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by amandasgramma
    I have disagreed with the way this section is handled, too. When topics go to the diaries, unless you have a close relationship (friends/families) it seems they disappear and nothing else is much said. I still don't understand why some things aren't left in chit-chat -- after all, to me the chit-chat section is like sitting in our living rooms and talking about anything -- happy, sad, personal, not so personal. I wish the mods would change the way it's handled, too.
    I get confused on this too..I thought chit-chat was like a catch all type of thing..Just like when visiting with friends/family and telling them what all is going on in their lives..I get confused with the Personal Diary..Have one in there now and can not get it to change..

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    Kathy and Feline Fanatic, that makes sense to me now :D
    And I don't want to know if pythons would make good pets!!!
    LOLOLOLOLOL :D:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy
    AND..... I and a few others are at work while trying to moderate and like 5 kids, it's hard to keep up with everything.
    AND.... I don't know how to merge topics but have seen some that I would have if I could.
    also, I'm guilty of not reading the whole post, if I open and see pictures.... I move it to pictures
    Kathy - like I said - volunteer - its like the guy who got mad that we didn't weed eat around the goals this past Saturday - I asked him for help he said he was busy and my first thought was every member on our board is busy they have a job; life; husband/wife; kids and family....

    I get it and am not bashing the volunteers - I just don't understand it - I try real hard to make it so the moderators don't have to fix or move my stuff and I feel like the kid who can't do it right this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by feline fanatic
    PDA is for announcements in your personal life, like a surgery, venting about something that happened etc.
    Thank you for the info. I don't visit the PDA section because I thought it was for people who did daily diaries. (Like a blog, but housed on quiltingboard.) Since I do my own blog elsewhere, I never read there.

    Now that I know what is really on the PDA section, I'll visit more often.

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    That happened to me too. I put a picture up of my Great Aunt who had passed away. I do not have a PDA and do not want to start one. Well someone decided to move it to a PDA. I do not want my first PDA to be of my Aunt's death. So I have decided to not be on here much anymore. I have been having trouble with the site and no one has responed to my email.
    Good Luck!

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    I do well to read the unread topics, don't read the diaries section, so I guess I miss a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy
    I can only speak for myself but when I feel a post is something you'd share with a friend, not someone you'd meet on the street I move it to PDA.
    details of illnesses or tragic events I feel are not for the general public.
    like someone said we are volunteers and try to do things the way admin. wants it done, he's the one who chose us, (even tho he's not here anymore)
    if you have a problem with a topic moving or deletion or whatever you can discuss it with the one who moved it and find out why or plead your case or whatever, it's not carved in stone and can be changed,
    we're not trying to throw our weight(buttons) around. ;)
    But the nice thing about reading these stories is that we get to meet/make new friends on this board.

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    OK Usually I will walk away and not say anything but it seems everyone else does so here goes. ROFL. I have a PDA, obvioulsy not real private if thousands can read it, but it is fun and we do chat in there about anything and everything. I am trying to get more people to go to that section and read the posts they may like. And a member would not dare post something negative on one of our posts in there. Seriously. I used to never post on the Main board except for sales. Then I ventured out. JMHO, I like posting in my PDA because I show pictures and share topics and don't have to worry about the negalholics joining in. My friends find me in PDA and not the others. So it is a good thing too,.

    When you put topics on the main board, you are opening up yourselves to others opinions, some good, some "break out the flying monkey" remarks. SO if you want to start a topic and feel sure those negaholics will stay away. Post in PDA. We watch each others backs in there. LOL. PDA is a good section.

    TO make a positive out of this post before it gets "lost", I would say, if your topic gets moved, follow it and let people know. YOu can't fight the system, we don't pay for it, it is free and we have no choice but to roll with the flow or leave this great QB board. And I personally am not leaving. They'll have to drag me out by my toes. ROFL

    P.S. YOu don't get deleted unless you delete something yourself in your own PDA. Only you have the delete button. And the moderators. PLease read the PDA section more. Right now we have been watching Mare Stare and have seen two foals born already. Number three is pending, but we watch her and chat. It's a whole new world.

    Ok off my pedastool. Hope I have your curiousity up.
    I like posting on the main board and meet lots of people and since one of my topics was moved recently, quite a few have found me in there. LOL. Where there's a will, there's a way. HUGS♥♥♥

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    From what I have seen the confusion lies around the words neutral :wink:

    - Positive or neutral events in your life or your surroundings that you feel would be of interest to others.
    - Positive or neutral announcements, such as birthdays, weddings, etc.

    Topics including death, illness, family issues (quarrels, etc) are asked to be put into a PDA.

    Death announcements, and some about illnesses are usually left in GCC for 24 hours before being moved to the PDA section.

    Many of you are too new to know about why the PDA section was created. It was to keep the GCC area on a more positive note :D

    PDA stands for Personal (information), Diaries(typical diary or blog like info), and Announcements(deaths, illness, prayer requests, etc).

    Like Debbie said, people will follow you there, read your PDA and contribute to the topics discussed there :D:D:D

    You do have to subscribe to the PDA section to get it to appear on your home page or unread topics. But, you have to subscribe to other sections too, so that they also appear in your lists here :D

    To subscribe, click on the Home button at the top of the page, scroll down and click on All User-Defined Topic Lists. You can then choose what you do and don't want to subscribe too.

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    Created to keep the Gcc area more positive?????

    Ok I know what you are are saying but we are also not saying that the PDA section is all negative either. Some folks don't like to read about death or family issues etc. These are not negative issues to some of us but part of life as it is.

    With all due respect, if we move everything "negative" into the PDA section, then it will be lost too. The PDA section is not a catchall for negative posts, sad, etc. It can be and is a wonderful place to share on a more personal level.

    Ok PatriceJ, help me out here. YOu know what I am trying to say.

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    I should have worded this a little differently Debbie :oops:
    It was not my intention to make this section sound like it is all subjects that are not upbeat and positive.

    I have a PDA and we have had a lot of fun joking in there too.. it is a place to have fun as well as talk about lifes other side. I visit other PDAs and there are all kinds of topics being discussed, I enjoy them all :D:D:D

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    My issue with PDA is that the wording for general chit-chat and pda overlap - if I am seeking advice - I want the good and the bad - I wouldn't put it out there if I couldn't take it...I got some advice/postings that others may have taken offense to - I didn't I saw it as positive because it made me think....

    My POINT in all this - is I try really really really hard to respect the job the volunteers on this free board do. I love coming here and spend way too much time on it BUT I don't like having my posts move - I consider it carefully before I put it up; consider whether I want comments on it or not; and try and respect the rules so I'm not a problem child....this week it seems like I am the problem child with no rhyme or reason - all I got was a PM saying your topics have been moved and then a PM saying they have been merged...and I disagree with both of those actions. I live with them and stop ranting but I do feel like if your going to move something then 1) make sure it really needs to be moved and 2) give an explanation because 99% of us here want to follow the rules; make things easier on the moderators and just have a good time! Sorry - still cranky!

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    I have so much fun in PDA land, it's hard for me to come to the main board anymore. But I will continue to do so. Thanks for reiterating,Amma. I will continue to encourage members that we have the best board in cyber world and a few things can be overlooked. HUGS♥♥

    Pictures can be in PIctures, but also go with some of our regular posts. It's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamkasperi
    My issue with PDA is that the wording for general chit-chat and pda overlap - if I am seeking advice - I want the good and the bad - I wouldn't put it out there if I couldn't take it...I got some advice/postings that others may have taken offense to - I didn't I saw it as positive because it made me think....

    My POINT in all this - is I try really really really hard to respect the job the volunteers on this free board do. I love coming here and spend way too much time on it BUT I don't like having my posts move - I consider it carefully before I put it up; consider whether I want comments on it or not; and try and respect the rules so I'm not a problem child....this week it seems like I am the problem child with no rhyme or reason - all I got was a PM saying your topics have been moved and then a PM saying they have been merged...and I disagree with both of those actions. I live with them and stop ranting but I do feel like if your going to move something then 1) make sure it really needs to be moved and 2) give an explanation because 99% of us here want to follow the rules; make things easier on the moderators and just have a good time! Sorry - still cranky!
    BIg hugs to you and hope you feel better soon. I was just reminded I had a topic moved recently and it was merged into my PDA and I was on fire. But I "fixed" it so readers would know why a subject was dropped into the middle of my PDA and then noticed some of the posters found me so now I am ok. Just took a while for it to get straight. Talk about a strange conversation for a while. Maybe move the topics to PDA and not on to the Real PDA's we started ourselves? GOod idea. Hugs . Thanks NP3 for reminding me. I appreciate her feelings too. Been there done that, now enjoying the qb again.

    Chocolate is good for the soul. HUGS
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    1. It is not appropriate to post personal complaints in the public forum.

    2. Key words: "General" and "Personal".

    3. The rules for each section were carefully crafted with a great deal of care. Member input was requested and considered at the time.

    4. If any member has had a particular type of post moved into their PDA more than once, they should (1) appreciate the fact that it was not deleted instead; (2) accept the fact that their decision about where to place it was not based on correct interpretation of policy; and (3) not repeatedly put things in places they have been shown are not correct.

    5. It's up to each member to decide whether their PDA is mostly a happy one, or one filled primarily with drama and trauma. Moderators do not make that choice. We simply put things where we know they belong.

    Into each life, a little reality must fall. Among those drizzles and droplets of reality is the fact that our desire to tell something to the whole world does not automatically translate to a desire among the whole world to hear it.

    The moderators have all been here for a very long time. They know our policies. They are pillars of the community who are familiar with the reason and spirit of our policies. In short - they know what they are doing.

    Again ... the public forum is not the proper place for personal complaints.

    This matter is truly not open to negotiation or argument.

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