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stpatmom 06-08-2010 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by JanetM

Originally Posted by marsye
I don't want to sound like a witch here but how do you know people are being honest when they ask for hand outs or donations because they can't afford it, etc? I have always wondered about this when you can't actually see them and their situation. I'm always willing to help someone in need when I can see whats going on with my own eyes but online how can you be sure your not being snookered? I'm not pointing my finger at anybody on here. We also have a local forum in our town and people ask for hand outs on there too. Please don't hit me! I'll cry. :lol:

I don't know if there is any way you can be completely sure.
I have helped several people and know that they were sincere and appreciative.
But I can think of one person that I do think took advantage of the generosity of our members. The outpouring was tremedous, and she received essentially a new sewing room but all I saw was a quick Thanks. I've seen some other "questionable" requests that just don't ring true. If it doesn't feel right, take a pass.

I've been reading the board for about a year and a half but just VERY recently became an active participant. The only thing I have to add is..............my husband has been out of work for a while now, about a year and a half. My children attend a Catholic School and we've had to ask for extra financial help from them for my children to keep attending. (Our diocese states that no Catholic family can be turned away due to inability to pay.) It is very humbling so maybe the individual was embarrassed to have had to ask. Maybe not.

Also, I wouldn't mind sending salvages as long as no member on the board that I was familiar with had previously asked. They are not something that I use anyways.

Thank you to everyone who has been able to help. If the need is real, your generosity meant more than you could ever really know.

stpatmom 06-08-2010 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by karielt
I feel that if I can help I will. I'm one of those people who have asked for help and I have been over whelmed with gratitude to those that have shared. I have a little gal I'm helping her make a quilt for a goal project. I wanted her to learn about the people that love quilting and why. So I asked if people could give up a square fabric and send along their story. Long story short many people on here have sent and are sending and this has got to be the best experience both her and I have ever had. We are going to be building her quilt with the squares and scrapbooking the stories to go along with it. I have one excited little 14 years old here. Her family is struggling. Many people on this board have made it happen for her and I am beyond thankful. I'll be posting pictures as we go.

I don't think this is what Marsye was talking about. I think this would make a great project, and I like the part about stories were requested to go along with it. I hope you get a chance to take pictures and post for when the projects are completed.

prezzy 06-08-2010 06:24 PM

I have received an env of crumbs from a member but I do not remember her name on the board to say thank you. I will now write her and say thanks. Thanks everyone for calling my attention to this. I think this board is the best thing next to sliced bread.

no1jan 06-08-2010 06:28 PM

I usually don't give to people who come out and "ask". But yes I am a sucker for the handicapped and the people who truly love to quilt but can't afford it.

Being on disability myself, and having a brother with Down's I know that there are always people less fortunate than me. If I have something and know someone can USE it. I will send it to them.

But if I get the feeling they are just asking for profit or whatever, I don't bother.

I have a tendency to take people at their word, and don't understand how some people can be so sneaky and use people. I go with my feelings. If they sound honest, and I can help them then I will.

I just try and be the best person I can be and try not to think that I am being used!

I have been fortunate and have gotten many good deals at garage sales, etc. But I almost always give away some to people who can use it. I recently got a pile of material and gave half to the senior center close to me as they make things for donations.

If I can't use it, I hope someone else can.

dotcomdtcm 06-08-2010 06:30 PM

I'm always willing to trade or pay, but I know some folks really need help. I believe "giving is getting" . Most pay it forward.

cjomomma 06-08-2010 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by redquilter
roseofsharon - if you got a PM looking for selvedges from someone who joined 4/23 - no she does not post, nor has she ever. I was collecting selvedges for her, but then decided to check her out and when I discovered she apparently only joined so she could request something, I decided not to send.

I got the same one and 2 others from other ppl who had just joined.

debbieumphress 06-08-2010 06:35 PM

Wow, there have been some interesting posts lately... Most of you know by now that I post a lot and love to pay it forward and send packages out. I even had a few ladies request fabric but only if those in real need get it first. So we are all on the same track. You can read posts and see who keeps asking and not posting thanks, etc. Everyone I have sent a box to has always acknowledged me and have also remained my Board friend. I have a lot too. So I figure if one snookers me then there are 10 times that that were blessed with my package. I will continue to send out packages. Some have offered to pay postage too which is a help. I have wonderful stash to share but cannot continue to do the postage. Sorry. For those who can't I will still send them boxes of stash. Just might have to spread it out a little? I was talking to someone this week abuot those who continually post for fabric. Is it really needed or just to up their stash. I love to help them build a stash too. If it feels good do it, if not, go with your senses. I never thought about checking the people out but this is a good idea. I learned something today. Usually, if I see a post of someone needing fabric, I PM them for an address and send them some. Not everyone asks for it. The people who "play" with me know who there are. You are all wonderful new friends and hope to be so in the future. I love this board and all it represents. We won't let a few ruin it for us. By the way, I spent all day cleaning out this sewing room and found lots more to share with but have to get organized first. Let's keep on sharing and having fun. Believe me, those who post "I would if I could", I can't.no money" I would not post every where, I would be embarassed as we all know what is going on. For those who really need it, ask. That's what we are here for. Oops, there I go again on a roll. Have a good evening all.

Bettia 06-08-2010 06:43 PM

uhhhh CarrieAnne, not to be rude, but it's mine.

Gramof6 06-08-2010 06:47 PM

As Debbie U. said, I too have a stash and love to help others by weeding through my fabric from time to time. I am relatively new here but I have read from here for over a year. So I do have a feel for who is real & who may not be. Now that I am a Member, I am going to go through my stuff tomorrow & Thursday, PM a certain Member & ask for her address & ask if I can send her a box. I will do this from time to time, but choose diff. Members ea. time. It makes me feel good to share. I ask nothing in return. Nothing. Don't want anything. If they do not like the fabric, they can do whatever with it. It's no longer mine once I leave it at the PO. On all forums, you do have to watch out for people that take advantage of kind hearts. It happened to me on 2 other forums, but it won't happen again. LOL

Bettia 06-08-2010 06:55 PM

ooops!!!! CarrieAnne, I never did like T-bones that well. I will just take the Ketchup. mmmm thanks

CarrieAnne 06-08-2010 06:55 PM

Well, Bettia, you can have that one, but can I just have a BITE...and a few french fries PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

charismah 06-08-2010 07:24 PM

I have had to deal wih this subject in my own life and what I tell my kids is that a gift is a gift and once you give it then there are no conditions. I think that itis about the giving part of things and letting go of our own greed and not what the other person is doing...they have to live with themselves and their own deeds....I trust in my instincts and the information that I have...if I feel someone is dishonest or I don't feel the "urge" to give something than I don't....if I need to give then I give.....there is no foll proof way of doing things...so I just feel like I am helping myself more than anyone else.

mom-6 06-08-2010 07:52 PM

I've learned that the secret of giving is to have no strings attached.

I used to get really upset by a family member who insisted that gifts be used a certain way or only in certain circumstances. Since I don't want anyone else to feel that way, I just give whatever I give and then forget about it, no need for paybacks, thank yous or anything.

Now a thank you is always appreciated and I prefer that anyone who gets something from me would pass it on rather than try to pay me back, but if they feel the need to payback, then I will accept graciously.

bearisgray 06-08-2010 08:09 PM

I am more interested in giving again to people that seem appreciative - especially folks in the relative group.

I do not expect anyone to give up their first-born child or pension fund, but a "thank you" - even if one is less than elated about the offering - seems reasonable - and good manners.

I've learned a long time ago that "keeping things in circulation" works out a lot better than "exchanging" or "paying back"

Scissor Queen 06-08-2010 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by barnbum
What I get weary of is the "Oh, I wish I could afford it." line. It just gets old.

I get pretty tired of that too.

I lived for many, many years on SS survivors benefits and I raised two kids on it. Since my dead ex wasn't exactly gainfully employed on a regular basis we got the minimum. You'd be surprised at what you can afford if you really want to.

Gramof6 06-08-2010 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen

Originally Posted by barnbum
What I get weary of is the "Oh, I wish I could afford it." line. It just gets old.

I get pretty tired of that too.

I lived for many, many years on SS survivors benefits and I raised two kids on it. Since my dead ex wasn't exactly gainfully employed on a regular basis we got the minimum. You'd be surprised at what you can afford if you really want to.


I had to give up doing crafts for about 8 or 9 months due to being so poor I could not buy supplies. Then I took in ironing for awhile to get me going again. Then I got a babysitting job for after school kids. So I have not always had it easy by no means. And yes you sure can get creative. Now that we are empty nesters things are much better but I also know that the bottom could fall out one day.

dakotamaid 06-08-2010 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by sharon b
For me I watch and listen and see how long they have been a member. Nothing is fool proof. But if I see a new member always hinting around or asking , I shy away from that. Others have been here awhile and you know more about their background.

Some ask, ask, ask and never acknowledge that they have received anything publicly , like they don't want you to know how much they have already received.

Others post as soon as they receive something to say THANK YOU .


It is a trust thing and you just hope for honesty.

I agree with you Sharon. I must say I have always been given a huge thank you from all I've shared with. Keeps my faith going!!

magpiefeather 06-08-2010 11:02 PM

This has been interesting. I think that the person asking for selveges is kind of creative because where else would you get them but from a giant group of quilters! I have never saved a selvege they would go into the garbage but I know they are the rage now. But now I think I'll save them for someone...anyone!
In the case of other situations, there are dishonest people here and there, I don't think the selvege seeker is too off the wall for joining and asking. (Love this board)
Just my opinion...now I'm going to go have a steak and fries!
Magpie

quilterguy27 06-08-2010 11:03 PM

I have requested fabric on here to make charity quilts. I am also on SSI and have a very tight budget. Several of you helped me out and I really appreciated it. In some cases it was a lot of work to determine what box came from who so I could thank that person. I also pay it forward when I can. It's the right thing to do. I haven't had any time to quilt lately because I've been dealing with a dog that had cancer. Now that that's all over with (I hope and pray) I can get back to quilting. I will be posting pictures of the quilts made from the donated fabrics. So, If I'm one of the ones you are referring, I've only just been delayed and quilts and pictures will be coming soon. Thanks to all that helped. I really do appreciate it. I'm not taking advantage of anyone and all quilts will go to charity. That's what I do.

Cathy M 06-09-2010 12:12 AM

I think overall the members of this board are rock solid honest. I've sent a lot of boxes to people and have been thanked many times over. I agree with the the posting above, a gift is a gift.
There is no shame in asking for help if you need it. We all need help in our lives one way or another, we are not immune to it. And it is fun to receive fabric from different places. And the double score bonus for me is that it makes room for me to buy more fabric :):) Life is way too short to be grumpy over the little things. If you receive an unwanted email, delete it- you're in charge of your mail.

AND FOR THE RECORD BEV- ANYTIME, ANYPLACE, ANYHOW, YOU NEED HELP- ASK... PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY.... YOU ARE THE MOST 'ABLE' AND GENEROUS DISABLED PERSON I KNOW. LOVE YA- CATHY M

Rainy Day 06-09-2010 01:06 AM

A gift of fabric is a gift of love, warmth and sharing. I have sent some to a member who sent me a great pattern for a childs quilt when I was new, and they made me feel welcome. I love reading about the sharing that happens on this board - and the willingness of most to help with questions and problems. If only you all worked in Welfare, my job would be sooooo much easier!!!!!!!!
Maryse, you are thoughtful, thought provoking and funny. I love that you make me laugh and think. I would not hit you (unless you asked me nicely first) :lol:

barnbum 06-09-2010 01:32 AM


a gift is a gift and once you give it then there are no conditions.
Exactly. There are so many ways to give--one just has to pick what feels right to them.

Mary Ellen 06-09-2010 02:35 AM

I have read each and every post in this thread with great personal interest.

My heart rejoices each time I hear about one of you who feels joy at sharing. Like the spirit of giving we see at Christmas time.

And oh what a feeling when I read that you do not wish your long term friend who repeatedly posts, to feel things said are aimed at her personally. Balm to this lady's sore, let me tell you.

I have been doing more reading than posting.
So you will not find a great deal of things I have written to "judge me" worthy of your sharing...

... and my heart grieves at the attitude of shaming those who would feel such need as to publicly post that they need other quilters scraps. Not the same thing at all as contacting some stranger in a PM to impose your need upon them...as to post publicly and allow each readers heart to lead them...or ability to share.

Yes, there are those who will take advantage, but I believe they are the few. If I would not allow the hipocrites to keep me from entering my father's house, would still love and forgive them, then maybe, eventually they will not be hipocrites.

Let yourself also off the hook if you are like Thomas, the doubter. The one whom he doubed let him off the hook, and even gently gave him the proof he sought.

So let me share/burden you with the true story of one newby's need for hand outs. Not so you will pitty me, or send me fabrics to build me a stash...but so you can just know.

They say confession is good for the soul, so here it goes.
Maybe my user account is about to be overflowing with flame letters as a response, or pitty letters, but come what may, I still want to post this long story so you may all gain something of it.

It leaves me feeling more than just a wee bit naked in public, but I already feel shamed, so it makes little difference.

I am someone who asked for hand outs.
I did it the very hour I registered.
I was so new, I did not realize it was against the rules...
But I did not ask for my own sake.

By removing my original post, admin also removed my ability to publicly thank those kind ladies who did respond and send scraps and actual bits from their stashes that were not scraps, but cut special to send ...

When that original post was removed, it also took away the ability to post my progress on her quilt, so folks could follow the story, give encouragement, suggestions, etc., or tell me what I am doing wrong either.

I was taught manners, so even with that taken away, I figured out how to PM each sender when their package arrived, and thanked them. I also asked was there anything I could do for them in return for their sharing. Money is not everything, and I do have some talents to share in return.

I have done without my quilting for over 6 years, dropped out of the local guild, etc ...but when someone I love had her quilts stolen from her nursing home, I asked for her sake. She gets so cold in the nursing home, but her request was that I not spend any money on fabric to make her a new quilt. She knows my family's situation. It was here need that gave me the original thought of how to find fabrics that fit her restriction on my gift to her of a new quilt. It was her need that led me to ask my grandson for help.

So I asked for the scraps left over at the end of a "your" project. I only needed pieces in the size range of 2" squares. Not yardage or even FQs or O 8ths. Few who sent fabrics really got that part. Most sent "large" pieces that I would have paid for at a fabric store...when you compare what they sent to what I had tried to ask for, that is.

Her favorite quilts have always been the scrap ones, the real charms where no fabric is used twice. To her eyes, they sparkle more. Plus from her life's experiences came a special joy at the thought of making a silk purse from the pigs ear...it was this woman who taught me life lessons like giving, un-conditional love, who my Heavenly Father is, about community obligations, volunteerism, the value of a job well done rather than a job done to the point of just saying "good enough".

My post, complete with a photo of her, which was my way of proving that she did exist and was really of that age...was removed within a few scant hours. At the time, I was absolutely new to this site. So new I had not even read the rules thoroughly.
My grandson "hooked me up" with this site, showing me what he could, as a 12 year old boy, even showing me there are free lessons out there on U Tube and such.

In the few scant hours the post was up, there were "so many" who PM'd and did send packages...did share from the bottom of their hearts. Around a dozen ladies in all sent bits.

Working on this project with the fabrics donated by loving, caring women from so many places filled my heart to overflowing, and helped me crawl out of my own personal depression further than any medication I have been given, or social worker's words...etc.

So for those of you out there who deal with deep long term depression, there is a way to return from the edge and pull of the "deep black hole" called depression.

And one lady had written something that especially touched my heart. She wrote of how exciting it was for her to participate in giving to someone so old, who had her quilts stolen ...so that now she would be covered with love sent in the form of scraps, from all over the world.

I felt such overwhelming joy at hearing the attitudes of those who chose to send even if I was a newby, especially that one.

Now for my personal story of loss and need.
Just so you can gain some perspective.

Not to admonish, punish, or chastise those who would doubt need or be put of by people openly asking for hand outs, but just so you can gain in understanding, and perspective.

I write this with a gentle heart, soft voice and loving spirit. I can only hope that you hear these black words on white "paper" with the soft tones and spirit they are intended to portray.

After moving every 2-3 years with my military husband, we were finally able to settle down and buy a home with "good bones and lots of potential" in 1989. It had weathered quite a number of mild to moderate hurricanes since it was built. Then in 2004 it began, and our home was ravaged by a series of monster hurricanes. One right after another after another. Even Katrina left us with more damage.

If you look, my location is in partly revealed, I will admit publicly to living in the Gulf Coast region.

I lost so much, and came close to loosing everything, even my life...and that struggle continues.

Our profitable corporation of over 10 years, mostly family & friend operated, was totally destroyed. We still owe a large debt on the equipment that we had to have for that business...and will pay it all off eventually. We refuse to do unto others as the insurance company did to us. We will not declare bankruptcy. We do not get food stamps, I am disabled, but do not get SSI. I did volunteer work, and the SS office told me I had never paid in enough to qualify to get any aide now.

Our home was at the tipping point...condemn it or repair. Our home owner's insurance company declared bankruptcy and then got away with only paying us scant pennies on the dollar in return for over 20 years of paying the premium rate for replacement insurance, rather than the cheaper depreciative type/rate. So if it was condemned, we would not even be able to find a new place to live with "the money", the insurance company would not have even paid enough to cover the money still due on the mortgage, so we would have been homeless and still owe them money.

What happened to our community was on the national news...and there is cable tv complete with the weather chanel at the nursing home. So while my loving grandmother did not see our personal loss level, she knew. I worried it would lead her to such stress as to cause her to have a heart attack, so did everyone else in my up home family, so we all agreed to keep her basically in the dark. Still she knew. So she really means what she demanded of me when she heard the news that I was going to start her a new quilt...she would not accept it if I spent money on it for her...only to risk it too becomes stolen. Her restriction really put me to the task of creativity. To use no money...what to do, what to do.

I do not wish to tell you the depths of my own personal despair.

But I will tell you the height of my joy at receiving such an outpouring from those who saw my post before it was removed.

One special lady even sent two packages to me, when I admitted that I needed more of a special color fabric that is currently not available on the market ...turquoise. And the check book size 2nd package was awe inspiring to this person...turquoise beyond my imagination.

Six years after the storms, our roof still leaks. We could not do our own roofing, and the company we ended up hiring took our $ and did the work, but did shoddy work with inferior material goods, and then left to work in another state when the complaints against them started mounting. Things were so bad in this entire area, that police were assigned to the hardware stores and semi trucks delivering goods...so that residents had to stop looting, shooting each other and fighting over the materials that were here. It was BAD.

I had researched the company before giving them a contract and money down...what I did not know in time, was that the company had just been sold and changed from long term, locally owned and operated, to foreign owned and "carpet bagger" con at heart. That experience left us with little options, and even less money to use. So we decided to do the remaining work ourselves, so we could control the materials used, and the quality of the workmanship as well.

At this point in time, we were using our personal savings to pay for repairs...prioritizing what we believed to be the greatest needs. The insurance company had not sent any funds for any repairs...they had gone quickly to court to file their papers...

Two of our daughters assisted us. The other two could not, as one was pregnant and the other was living in Ireland. No one else came to help or offered funds either. Not one penny came from FEMA or the Red Cross.

If I can put together a quilt and it lays flat and true, I can use those same skills to put up new siding, doors and windows, etc.
We did not get hit on even one inspection.

I am still down to bare cement foundation for floors. And worse. I do not care to finish describing the repairs not yet even touched. And yet we took in others who had nothing.

On another side of things besides the state of our home, my personal health has become so bad that I came within hours of dying in November. You really do not want to hear the rest of the story...you would only think I was either lying or exaggerating. And if you did happen to believe it, your heart would ache and you would loose sleep. I used to share the story in email letters to those family members who asked and cared...and they tell me it still bothers them greatly.

This sort of damage and recovery is so incredible, that you have to experience it, even second hand through a loved one, to know its true scope. This entire county looked like a war zone. Less than 100 roofs were left intact...homes, businesses, etc. Less than 100. And in those years, those monster storms were everywhere. Not enough good contractors to go around...but plenty of cons, and carpet baggers showed up to "help".

My home is still so bad, I have stopped most of my socializing.
I have one true local friend left, and we just stick together and help each other. Her husband is not a handy man, but mine is. She can drive, I no longer can. So she also watched in awe when the packages started to arrive. And she too felt the joy of spreading out those bits and seeing that others really do care.

She used to tease me for saving every little scrap...even sewing pieces together to make a big enough piece of fabric to use in my tiny blocks of less than 2" square. She isn't laughing at me any more.

So she started helping me go back to the local quilt guild.
Again I humbled myself to tell them about my need.
Like here, some were upset I would stand up and"beg/ask" for scraps...but others have chosen to start saving me the cut offs from their strip piecing projects and such. I was able to show them my work in progress...they saw, they know. They have known me as a long term member from the past. Not having laid eyes on me in over 6 years, some thought I had either moved elsewhere or died.

I enjoy the slow rhythm of un-sewing a stack of cut off ends...and knowing that they will not go to waste in some land fill...and at night, I dream of the beautiful things they can still become.

It is far easier to be the one who is generous and sharing.
It is so hard to be the one in need, and to speak out.
Humbling is not a strong enough word.

So here I sit, tears running down my red hot embarrassed face.
Feeling shame, humiliation, frustration, awe, simpathy, empathy, and naked.

I asked for a hand out.
I was new.
I was ignorant of the rules and in need.
But I also know the thoughts of how to know who to give what I do have to...and also have experienced those who are just out to con and gain.

The thought of disappearing and never coming here again has crossed my mind several times. I have deleted what I have written several times over. Considered just keeping silent...keeping my shame, and my story, to myself.

But then what do you all gain when so many of you are asking about "giving to those who are strangers and new".

I offer you a way to understand. We have an income. My husband is a retired, disabled military veteran of over 22 years and 3 wars. He also has a part time job of less than 20 hours per week.

We started a new business. But it takes money to do that...and so far we have not made a profit yet in our new business. We even have an e-bay account.

I do buy stuff there...but only at the lowest price. One magazine pattern at a time for less than a dollar. I can not afford quilt magazine subscriptions like I used to have.
On e-bay, I will shop with the same ladies over and over...asking them to hold my selected items and ship them all at once and save me the big $$$ for S & H.

I also am a member of craig's list. And I share what ever I can...what ever I can spare or am not using. I think it was back in April we held a yard sale...us and all our children as well. But it was one like you may have never encountered. People came, shopped, brought us their final selections, and then discovered that there was no money to pay...they were at liberty to take it for free, and to also use our phone to call their friends and neighbors who might also need some of what we had put out. This idea came from the Church in Ireland that I got to visit when I went to help my daughter and her family when the new baby came...I was there for 3 whole months, but it was not a holiday or tourist visit. It was daily work that taxed this disabled body to the max. But the church there was amazing. And so I was gifted with this new idea and attitude...a free yard sale where like candid camera, they don't get it until the end.

After Katrina, many of the ones evacuated were sent to our county to be housed in the Civic Center. Some very creative ladies posted to craigslist that they wanted to teach those women how to do patchwork and quilting...to not only keep them busy but to give them hope. They asked for donations of any and all sizes. I told them to come, and to bring either a truck or a large car. They came with a 9 passenger station wagon. I stuffed it so full of scraps in heavy duty lawn size debris bags, they could hardly fit themselves in.

If quilting could not be my priority, I was willing to give til it hurt so that others could feel hope.
But I was not totally selfless. I did save my best yardage goods, fabric medley's and such for myself for later. I felt a bit guilty over that selfishness too. They were put in huge plastic bins and stacked one atop the other in a corner...and it reached the ceiling. Then other bins with other things were also placed in that one precious, leak proof room...so now I can not get to them. I am not without a stash...I just can not get to it.

I was about to participate in a swap here...so after begging two special son in laws...they got me down a bin. It was a lot of work for them to re-arrange stuff to even get to them.
To my horror, the fabrics have some ugly mystery stains that will not come out...smell faintly rancid, mildewed and are no longer worthy of swapping.

I refuse to just dump them. I will slowly launder each bin, use bleach even if it damages the colors and prints...and then make quilts for the community. They will still keep many warm who have nothing. I can still donate the tops to the guild and someone else with funds can add backing and batting.

We have 8 extra family members still living with us, with either no income, or not enough for the new higher prices to rent a place in a decent neighborhood. Ours was not the only business to be destroyed, and not re-open. This is a big house. We squeak by...there just is not enough money for this steward to invest in a replacement stash.

So you will not find me involved in a swap or BOM, etc. until I can spend my own income to do so, without taking food out of the mouths of my grandchildren, or leaving my husband's budget in the red. I will not send someone damaged goods in return for their premium supplies. And while I have had offers to pay me to hand quilt some treasure, currently I am too weak to take the jobs, and still do for my own grandmother and new grandbabies.

While I will admit that there is a large part of me that just longs to ask for the cut off, left over scraps of those who can afford to not just use scraps...reading what has been written here, I am un-likely to ever openly ask for any hand outs for my own sake.

Perhaps, but only perhaps, I will still post asking for scraps for others in need...and simply relish in the joy of piecing, quilting and giving...but only perhaps.

As a child I often heard the phrase "stick & stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me".

As an adult of more than middle age, I can tell you that I would rather you beat me with a stick or hit me with a stone, then to abuse me with words my mind can not forget, and my heart will grieve over. Memories can last a life time, and take much longer to heal than a cut or broken bone.

Those of you who give, share and rejoice in it...I thank you for sharing your spirit in this string.

And for those of you who have been hurt by those who would abuse and use you...I wish I had the balm to sooth your aching hearts and bruised spirits. I wish I could be your close personal friend, so that my life could be your inspiration.

I feel greedy.
But not for asking for scraps for the quilt I am going to give away to my grandmother, not really for that.
I feel greedy for not giving away more of my fabrics... I feel God has taught me a valuable lesson...they are now damaged goods. But that was my personal lesson to learn.

Not one I am trying to impose on anyone else.

She who dies with the most fabric, really does not win.
She who dies with the most quilts made and shared is the true winner.

I am not done with this internal debate....disappear or stay.
Ask or stay silent.
I know I have written far more than I had to...and most likely way more than any of you ever would like to have heard...or read.


But then again, this tread is all about "When People Ask for Hand Outs and Donations" and the special sub category was "as newbies you know nothing about".

Its just my story.
It isn't going to change the world.
It isn't meant to change any of you that take the time to read the whole thing either.
It is only offered up, in most of it's entirety, after editing, as a way to answer the thread.

This message board is uplifting from where I sit.
Caring, sharing, loving, nurturing, inspiring...a real hand up from my depressing life. I cherish the live chat room.
I feel like it is a wonderful gift that my computer adict grandson bestowed upon his grandmother. He really did a good job.

I read the messages, even if most often I do not post.
When I write, I paint a picture with words.
I have tried my hand at poetry...but a true poet must be a master at words, so they can say much in very little space, only a few lines.

I rather write like Nathaniel Hawthorne. Short stories that may seem sad or macabe, but are truly didactic in nature, written with deep thought towards teaching the value of balance. Few got his real message. But also like Laura Ingalls Wilder, what I know and have lived. From the heart and firmly planted in my real world, for good and for ill.

Most who have posted to this string so far, have been those who share with those who beg. Maybe those who beg are currently feeling too shy to write much.

Cudos to those brave hearts.
Oncore to those generous ones.
And hugs from me to you, along with a soothing cup of tea, a slice of homemade toast and some fresh berry jam.

How ever did you find all those wonderful photos of food...and that Ketsup dude? LOL

dsb38327 06-09-2010 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by quilterguy27
I have requested fabric on here to make charity quilts. I am also on SSI and have a very tight budget. Several of you helped me out and I really appreciated it. In some cases it was a lot of work to determine what box came from who so I could thank that person. I also pay it forward when I can. It's the right thing to do. I haven't had any time to quilt lately because I've been dealing with a dog that had cancer. Now that that's all over with (I hope and pray) I can get back to quilting. I will be posting pictures of the quilts made from the donated fabrics. So, If I'm one of the ones you are referring, I've only just been delayed and quilts and pictures will be coming soon. Thanks to all that helped. I really do appreciate it. I'm not taking advantage of anyone and all quilts will go to charity. That's what I do.

I wouldn't think you are on anyones 'didn't feel right' list. I have never had a negative thought when I have read your post. Keep up the good work! Do what you can when you can.

Quilt4u 06-09-2010 03:02 AM

I have had some hard times and I don't Know how many times that the people on this board have help me out. To all I Thank you again. And I try to pay it forward when I can . It just seams right. And I love giving.

Janetlmt 06-09-2010 03:03 AM

Ketchup , CarrieAnne...hope you don't ruin that steak with ketchup...lol..on the fries is okay...LOL

Chele 06-09-2010 03:12 AM

Before you send Marsye all your stash, cut off the selvages for me! ;)

I think checking profiles is a wonderful idea. If they don't "play" with us, I would be less eager to share. And of course a thank you is always appreciated.

But for the most part, I've seen some very generous and appreciative quilters on this board. Kudos to everyone!

Janetlmt 06-09-2010 03:32 AM

I have decide to check profiles after reading all the posts. There are boxes lined up on my work counter..each one with fabric..and other goodies..taken from an already over flowing sewing room.
Sharing what I have brings such joy. I have been so blessed with a good life..there have been a few struggles..but nothing major.
I think quilters are a rare breed..our creativity is thru our heart. When you live with your heart..you give and share. With a creative heart comes honesty.
What a great bunch of ladies and gents.

ToucanSam 06-09-2010 03:49 AM

A couple of months ago, not too long after I started quilting, I asked if anyone had 4 inch squares they didn't want because I wanted to make a completely scrappy (no pieces the same) quilt. It was not due to financial struggles, but I know some ppl just don't keep scraps. In April, I was diagnosed with Stage IV appendix cancer (they thought it was ovarian and I am blessed that it wasn't)and had some pretty serious surgery. The post-surgical time was rough, as they had done a total hysterectomy, an appendectomy (the cancer started in my appendix) and took about 30 inches of my intestines (big tumor there) and had to sew my intestines back together. Not fun.

Recovery was tough and I was on pain pills for several weeks, pretty much throughout the day and at night. I had received squares from a number of people on the board, some of whose usernames were printed somewhere, but some just used their real names. All of the pieces have been deeply appreciated and slowly but surely, I made the quilt top. I put the border on it last week. I will try to post a pic of it tonight or tomorrow. If it will fit on a twin, I will donate it to a local charity.

I appreciate everyone who sent even a piece for it. Unfortunately, between the pain meds and the chemo I'm doing now, my brain hasn't exactly been working right. I am so very forgetful. Please know that if you sent me anything, it was very much appreciated and hopefully you will be able to see it in the quilt, though I do have some pieces left over.

I know that this post was not directed at me, but it was a wake up call for me to say thank you. And with "chemo brain", I sometimes need a reminder! This is one great group of quilters!


Hugs, to all of you,
ToucanSam

CarrieAnne 06-09-2010 04:34 AM

Wow, I dont know what to say after reading the last few posts. Me, SPEECHLESS...lol, doesnt happen often, I will tell you that.
First off, Mary Ellen...WOW. I am so glad youre doing better. Glad you stayed with us here.
Quilterguy, I have followed your story, almost since Ive joined. I love reading about your dog, and I am so glad he is better.Hope you have more time to quilt again soon, but glad Wolfgang comes first!
Janet, you are so sweet. Every time I see your smiling face, I cant beleive you are so sick, but still smiling and sharing, and just generally a GREAT sweet girl. I wish good health for you soon.
ToucanSam, I am sorry you are sick too! Hope you are doing better, Sweetie! If ya need more squares, hollar at me, will ya, I would love to help!

cjomomma 06-09-2010 04:50 AM

I'm gonna say this and I hope I don't tick anybody off. I will continue to give when I can afford it other wise if someone wants to pay shipping that's great. I love the classified section, I'm always checking to see if I have what someone needs or wants. I grew up poor and still am. But I grew up watching my parents give the shirt off their backs for a fellow person and they are still that way. I give with a happy heart and I receive it the same way, I do not expect a return of greatfulness, just to atleast know that the package made it there.

dsb38327 06-09-2010 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by ToucanSam
A couple of months ago, not too long after I started quilting, I asked if anyone had 4 inch squares they didn't want because I wanted to make a completely scrappy (no pieces the same) quilt. It was not due to financial struggles, but I know some ppl just don't keep scraps. In April, I was diagnosed with Stage IV appendix cancer (they thought it was ovarian and I am blessed that it wasn't)and had some pretty serious surgery. The post-surgical time was rough, as they had done a total hysterectomy, an appendectomy (the cancer started in my appendix) and took about 30 inches of my intestines (big tumor there) and had to sew my intestines back together. Not fun.

Recovery was tough and I was on pain pills for several weeks, pretty much throughout the day and at night. I had received squares from a number of people on the board, some of whose usernames were printed somewhere, but some just used their real names. All of the pieces have been deeply appreciated and slowly but surely, I made the quilt top. I put the border on it last week. I will try to post a pic of it tonight or tomorrow. If it will fit on a twin, I will donate it to a local charity.

I appreciate everyone who sent even a piece for it. Unfortunately, between the pain meds and the chemo I'm doing now, my brain hasn't exactly been working right. I am so very forgetful. Please know that if you sent me anything, it was very much appreciated and hopefully you will be able to see it in the quilt, though I do have some pieces left over.

I know that this post was not directed at me, but it was a wake up call for me to say thank you. And with "chemo brain", I sometimes need a reminder! This is one great group of quilters!


Hugs, to all of you,
ToucanSam

(((((((( Hugs ))))))))))))))) :!: :!:

dsb38327 06-09-2010 05:27 AM

Mary Ellen, I read every word of your response and will probably read it several more times. I was enchanted.
I am sorry your post was pulled. I didn't know that would happen. I had one pulled last night and I know how it feels.
I am sad for all your personal loss and your loss of good health.
I am grateful you didn't leave one word out of your story because I did so much enjoy your sharing so much of your life's story with me. I hope you are not also in the path of the oil that is now coming ashore.
Regards, Dorothy

marsye 06-09-2010 05:29 AM

Mary Ellen...........I remember that post with the picture of the woman in the nursing home. It was very heartbreaking. She looked so sweet! I do not think it should have been removed from the forum!!!!! :thumbdown:

saf45 06-09-2010 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by marsye
Mary Ellen...........I remember that post with the picture of the woman in the nursing home. It was very heartbreaking. She looked so sweet! I do not think it should have been removed from the forum!!!!! :thumbdown:


redquilter 06-09-2010 07:09 AM

Marsye - I and my arteries thank you for the oatmeal. It was delicious and it's so very kind of you to think of us! :)

Quilterguy27 - I know you make charity quilts and know that your dog is battling cancer. I was happy to send you something and you were very kind in your thanks. Believe me, I'm happy to help out anyone (and especially someone who makes quilts for charity.) I'm not looking for profuse thanks. All I want is to know that the packet was received. For the most part, I've received either a small gift, a written thank you card, a thank you PM and offer of a gift. I've been very blessed in life and happy to share whatever I have.

I sense a lot of mixed feelings in this thread - some are upset, some seem offended, some seem ashamed, some seem righteous, etc. I know this was not the intent and IMHO I'm thinking this topic should end.

beachlady 06-09-2010 07:49 AM

Marsye, very interesting post. I used to send to anyone who asked for something, but rarely do now! Recently people were posting for another member saying that they really needed help. One of these, I even went shopping for the fabric (quilt shop quality) and spent LOTS of $ - even sent a pattern and I never got a thank you. Some one finally asked the person receiving the fabric and a weak thank you was posted with a list of at least 50 names. Wow what a haul was made. And I have never seen any thing posted with some thing made with the fabric.
So....needless to say I think twice now before sending.
Like others said - I was approached once in Philly for money - was in the drive-up lane of McDonalds, so I bought them a meal and they came around the pick up window and took it and I actually saw them throw it away - I am sure she wanted money to buy drugs. Also once in Boston a homeless person (looked like one at least) and asked for a specific amount to get on train to get home and I gave it to her and when I was in the same place at the end of the day the same girl was there still asking and approached me again for money - I laughed at my stupidity and walked on. My friend that was with me both times had the courage to say to me "I told you so!!" Live and learn.
I always look at the date someone joined now and just go on.

grammo013 06-09-2010 09:37 AM

God Bless You.

patricej 06-09-2010 03:34 PM

our rules are like any other set of rules. they were created either because enough members asked that they be created, or because too many members behaved in ways that made them necessary. we know we can never please everybody.

each of us reacts in her/his own way to public requests for freebies. we have established standards that determine who is and who is not eligible to post requests. the standards were developed based on member input. once a person is eligible and puts a request on the board, each of you should give or not according to your own feelings.

there is a difference between public posts asking for handouts and the spamlike pms we've seen lately. nobody should send you a pm asking for anything unless the two of you have already established a friendship.

the bigger we get, the more attention we attract among the unsavory characters that surf the net in search of tender hearted suckers. please protect yourselves. these are almost certainly not from genuine members. report all unsolicited pms from strangers asking for free this or that or offering to sell you things, just as you would report suspicious spams to your regular email services.

the hacker who spammed several members asking for selvages has been blocked. (actually, "hacker" is the wrong term. she didn't break into the board. she just signed up and exploited the opportunity to make a manual list of people to pm. i would normally have used a different word to describe her, but i don't think that kind of language is appropriate here. :lol: )

brushandthimble 06-09-2010 05:15 PM

I also received a PM for selvage, but as collect (my own and local friends) selvages, I have a small draw full, it did raise any red light. I could not remember if somewhere in a thread selvages had been mentioned. I have not had the time to follow up with her, so now I will just forget about it.
Thank you all for bringing this up and thank you Patrice for the follow up.


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