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I agree for the price of a computer and internet service, one could sure buy lots of fabric. Unless the above is considered an 'investment'.
I did get the check from the lady that wanted to buy my quilt frame and I shipped it right out, just as I said I would. I give to charities and would give to anyone if I thought they really needed something, I don't like to be asked to give. Giving doesn't come from the heart if you are asked to give. Just the way I feel about it all. |
Jingleberry...I do hope that I have not added strife to your hot issue.
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Originally Posted by Jingleberry
I agree for the price of a computer and internet service, one could sure buy lots of fabric. Unless the above is considered an 'investment'.
I did get the check from the lady that wanted to buy my quilt frame and I shipped it right out, just as I said I would. I give to charities and would give to anyone if I thought they really needed something, I don't like to be asked to give. Giving doesn't come from the heart if you are asked to give. Just the way I feel about it all. BUT! I do agree that new people who just come on here and ask and then never post again are wrong. |
I have been able to help some people here, and when times were desperate for me, I have gratefully accepted help, too.
That being said, the times when I have had the ability to help, but chose not to, were based on feeling pressured, or by having a bad experience in the past. I am another that lives meagerly, and cannot afford to support those who live way beyond my means. I was not raised with such a sense of entitlement, but have seen it so much that I do understand that for some people, they firmly believe that home theater systems, vacations, and fancy cars ARE a neccessity. I feel sorry for them, but can't help them. |
Gosh, I just hate reading the sad stories of having helped someone and feel they are not deserving. Maybe they aren't and we learn or maybe they were at the time? My issue here is that we should not disect the acts of giving be it from being asked or from observations. It is also a fact, how would we know if a person Needs, if they do not ask? And I do agree that there are always a few bad seeds in the many apples that fall from a tree, but I know myself, I feel better myself if I peel out the bad part and keep the good! The saying goes, there is good in all things large and small, I might have to look hard for it at times but it's there. Let's keep in mind that just having to ask for help or hinting at it, is hard.
Give what you can,if you cannot, that is fine. If you do not wish to give, that is fine too. But let's not have these conversations here, it's just makes all envolved feel bad. The giver and the receiver. Let's have faith in what we do and why we do it. Ok, I probably went on too much or may have eyes glaring at me, but I just think it is unnecessary to discuss topics of this sort. Blessings, Sharon :) |
Well said Sharon, What a gentle reminder that we can't be our best selves when we focus on negativity.
Perhaps the original point needed to be made, and others made aware, which was done, admin being the people who should be alerted to questionable practices. I'm glad to have learned that. But yes, let's move on from negativity and get back into the supportive, generous and kind group this board is known to be. I appreciate and care for all of you, and hope that you don't let the few spoil the joy of sharing for you. Hugggggggs and smiless everyone, let's go find a cheerful positive thread to take part in now!!!! |
Originally Posted by roseOfsharon
Gosh, I just hate reading the sad stories of having helped someone and feel they are not deserving. Maybe they aren't and we learn or maybe they were at the time? My issue here is that we should not disect the acts of giving be it from being asked or from observations. It is also a fact, how would we know if a person Needs, if they do not ask? And I do agree that there are always a few bad seeds in the many apples that fall from a tree, but I know myself, I feel better myself if I peel out the bad part and keep the good! The saying goes, there is good in all things large and small, I might have to look hard for it at times but it's there. Let's keep in mind that just having to ask for help or hinting at it, is hard.
Give what you can,if you cannot, that is fine. If you do not wish to give, that is fine too. But let's not have these conversations here, it's just makes all envolved feel bad. The giver and the receiver. Let's have faith in what we do and why we do it. Ok, I probably went on too much or may have eyes glaring at me, but I just think it is unnecessary to discuss topics of this sort. Blessings, Sharon :) |
Let's end this with a positive note then. I just finished packing 7 boxes to go out tomorrow of scraps nad anything from FQ'a to yardage. Even took special requests for colors etc. It felt so good doing and picking fabrics, I felt like Santa reading the wish lists. They go out tomorrow and I know they will be appreciated even if I don't hear back. I have always heard back so far. For those of us who give because we are quilters, thank you. For those of us in need, please continue to ask for help, and if you always "use " the board we know who you are.....(Not really. ..I have no idea who anyone is. ) LOL ANd if you are one of the ones the boxes are coming to, all the ones I had ordered thru today are going tomorrow. Enjoy.
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Marsye, i think it's really sad that you even started a thread like this. I've only read the first few pages on this, and am just in tears.
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Originally Posted by reach for the stars 2
One time a homeless man was asking for money by my husband's work, so I give him 5.00. I was wanting for my husband to get done with work so I was waiting awhile. And much to my surprise I saw the homeless mn walk away and get into a brand new Catty. Needless to say I needed the money more than him. That's Chicago for ya.
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I think this thread should be closed and/or deleted
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oops sorry. I didnt see that we were ending this thread. That's what I get for responding before I read ALL the messages!! I promise to behave in the future.
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The thread isn't locked. I would think you are more than welcome to post what you have to say until then.
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to be honest, i was very unhappy to see this topic posted. it's one of the type that never lead to anything productive or constructive.
sometimes questions like these are asked in innocence because a member is unclear about something and would like some advice from those with more experience in a particular area. i have a feeling, however, that they are sometimes posted for the sole purpose of starting arguments. i can't help but picture the authors sitting at their computers with beverages and snacks, feeling thorougly entertained by the catfights and tears that fill the pages of response. is this one of those time? i don't pretend i know. i just wish i didn't need to ask the question. the problem for moderators is that we can't always prove such things. we may have strong suspicions, but unless we can point to clear evidence of deliberate pot-stirring our hands are tied. in such cases we depend on the general membership to bring it to an end. sometimes a moderator can be the judge. in a case like this, it's up to you as members to be the judge and jury. if i delete or lock this one, somebody will just start another one. and another one. and another one. |
Originally Posted by PatriceJ
to be honest, i was very unhappy to see this topic posted. it's one of the type that never lead to anything productive or constructive.
sometimes questions like these are asked in innocence because a member is unclear about something and would like some advice from those with more experience in a particular area. i have a feeling, however, that they are sometimes posted for the sole purpose of starting arguments. i can't help but picture the authors sitting at their computers with beverages and snacks, feeling thorougly entertained by the catfights and tears that fill the pages of response. is this one of those time? i don't pretend i know. i just wish i didn't need to ask the question. the problem for moderators is that we can't always prove such things. we may have strong suspicions, but unless we can point to clear evidence of deliberate pot-stirring our hands are tied. in such cases we depend on the general membership to bring it to an end. sometimes a moderator can be the judge. in a case like this, it 's up to you as members to be the judge and jury. if i delete or lock this one, somebody will just start another one. and another one. and another one. Thanks Patrice. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: |
Originally Posted by Barb M
Marsye, i think it's really sad that you even started a thread like this. I've only read the first few pages on this, and am just in tears.
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i have a feeling, however, that they are sometimes posted for the sole purpose of starting arguments. i can't help but picture the authors sitting at their computers with beverages and snacks, feeling thorougly entertained by the catfights and tears that fill the pages of response. is this one of those time? i don't pretend i know. i just wish i didn't need to ask the question. |
I can not speak for Marsye, but I think her intentions were not to be ill. I can speak for Marsye but why bother? My post would just get deleted like it usually does when I try to defend myself and in this case (or any other) I don't know why I would need to. It was a legit question. :wink: |
I am glad this post was created. I feel it was created with good intentions and it resolved what was determined to be a scam. We have wonderful members that will give their left arm and right eye to those in need.
Please, I encourage each of us to remember there are people that will misuse your goodness and kindness for their gain or to feed their need. This lessens our ability and willingness to open our hearts to those in need 'THAT WILL ALSO GIVE THEIR RIGHT ARM AND LEFT LEG' to those in need. We each have to make our own decisions but remember it is the internet and protect your selves from chronic takers./Regards, Dorothy |
My two cents is that I'm glad this thread was started just to hear others viewpoints. And to learn that the private PMs that were going on from "strangers" were scams and those people are no longer on here (at least that we know of ;)) I do not believe there were any ill intentions in the creation of this thread ~ it was simply a question.
Again, it comes down to the fact that we are all adults. We can choose to read or not read. We can choose to help someone out or not. We can choose WHO we want to help, IF we want to. No one on here is making anyone do anything they don't want to do. Don't like the thread? Don't read it. |
i think it's time to lock this down. we already have several points of view to ponder and decide for ourselves.
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