"Sharing patterns" - i'm in a quandry!
#121
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Originally Posted by gaigai
Originally Posted by coffeegirl
I have a good quilting friend and recently we went shopping and I purchased a pattern. It was a $12 pattern with lots of embroidery in it and we both loved it. She works at a quilt shop where there is a large light table and said when it came time to trace my pattern I could come in and use it. When I was there yesterday she asked if I brought the pattern so "we" could start tracing it. It seems she assumed that I would share the pattern with her. I think that if she wants to make her own, she should have have purchased one herself. Am I being selfish? The designer of the pattern deserves her cut too! I am concerned about offending my friend. I know people do this all the time, but it doesn't sit right with me.
Well said - I agree.
#122
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That's a good way to loose you're "friends". Sometimes for t he best. My "friend" saw a beaded suncatcher on my wall one day, and of course she wanted the pattern. "Oh, I can sell that for X$$-so can I. Annoyed me for 2 yrs.
she still hasn't gotten it. Glad she finally moved to Idaho. So beware and ask her to get her own next time--politely of couse.
she still hasn't gotten it. Glad she finally moved to Idaho. So beware and ask her to get her own next time--politely of couse.
#123
do i understand this correctly? it's an embroidery pattern (from a book or a sheet) not a hot transfer pattern and the only way you can use it is to put fabric over the picture and trace it. i'd let her borrow it in a new york minute. i just wouldn't want her to xerox a copy of it. in fact i'd probably give it to her after i made mine because i've only reused an embroidery pattern two times & that was an ABC Baby quilt for my grandchildren. otherwise after i've used an embroidery pattern one time - i'm done. i'd probably take exception if i had a friend who ALWAYS wanted my patterns instead of buying them herself but i guess that would just be tacky because when i'm done with 'em i'm done. they don't do anybody any good just lying around my sewing room taking up space.
#124
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If she "works in a quilt shop" w/a light table,---couldn't the shop get into trouble, if multiple tracings were being made from 1 pattern? couldn't that open them up to copyright infringement fines?? just curious
#126
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OK, so how does this sit with you all, here in Australia patterns (& fabric & everything to do with quilting) are so expensive that if my sister and I like the same pattern we share the cost and share the pattern. We are usually making quilts etc. for family and as long as we acknowledge on the label who the designer is, ( so that when someone goes "oooh isn't that luverly" we can tell them where to get it). Isn't that better than neither of us buying the pattern. Sorry I'm a bit late replying, trying to catch up quick as after being away then sick, only up to March 14th and doing quick look, don't want to miss anything on the board, Jen
#127
I'm going to take literally what you said in your first sentence "I have a good friend..."
You are asking for advice because you want to keep her as your good friend, and you want to be a good friend to her.
However, you are caught in a sticky corner. There is an honorable way out of this. Is your friend worth $12?
Simply buy a second pattern, wrap in in giftwrap and present it to her as as gift. Later, after she has begun to use it and is happy with the pattern, happy with you as a friend, only then in different circumstances, are you on solid ground to give her your thoughts about copyright. Having a good friend to quilt and shop with is worth hundreds of times more than $12. The true meaning of the word "wisdom" is living through love.
You are asking for advice because you want to keep her as your good friend, and you want to be a good friend to her.
However, you are caught in a sticky corner. There is an honorable way out of this. Is your friend worth $12?
Simply buy a second pattern, wrap in in giftwrap and present it to her as as gift. Later, after she has begun to use it and is happy with the pattern, happy with you as a friend, only then in different circumstances, are you on solid ground to give her your thoughts about copyright. Having a good friend to quilt and shop with is worth hundreds of times more than $12. The true meaning of the word "wisdom" is living through love.
#128
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Originally Posted by ghostrider
It is perfectly legal to loan a pattern, sell a pattern, or give a pattern to anyone you choose...if it is the original pattern.
What is not legal is to reproduce a pattern (i.e., make another copy of it) and then loan-sell-give that copy to someone (or for you to keep the copy and loan-sell-give the original away). You can, of course, make templates for your own use. You just can't turn one pattern into two.
Just tell the friend that you will loan her the pattern when you are done with it. Simple really, and perfectly legit.
What is not legal is to reproduce a pattern (i.e., make another copy of it) and then loan-sell-give that copy to someone (or for you to keep the copy and loan-sell-give the original away). You can, of course, make templates for your own use. You just can't turn one pattern into two.
Just tell the friend that you will loan her the pattern when you are done with it. Simple really, and perfectly legit.
#130
Originally Posted by NannaJen
OK, so how does this sit with you all, here in Australia patterns (& fabric & everything to do with quilting) are so expensive that if my sister and I like the same pattern we share the cost and share the pattern. We are usually making quilts etc. for family and as long as we acknowledge on the label who the designer is, ( so that when someone goes "oooh isn't that luverly" we can tell them where to get it). Isn't that better than neither of us buying the pattern. Sorry I'm a bit late replying, trying to catch up quick as after being away then sick, only up to March 14th and doing quick look, don't want to miss anything on the board, Jen
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