Am I stealing? Or just borrowing?
05-02-2010, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Karenmay
Its strange that this should come up now as Ive got the same problem! I was having a look at some art posters on the internet a few days ago, and found a print that I would love to turn into a wallhanging. It's a modern style print, which i dont usually go for at all but this one just caught my imagination I think! I would only be making for my own pleasure , to hang in my own house....not to gift it or sell it, so I'd be very interested in your opinions on this!
Thanks for bringing the subject up Shelly!
Karen xx
Thanks for bringing the subject up Shelly!
Karen xx
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05-02-2010, 07:38 AM
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I think it's like pornography - tough to define but you know it when you see it.
If a designer has taken a well-known or common block and laid it out in a new way, I don't consider it stealing to mimic that layout in a quilt for myself. If they have developed a whole new block, then I consider it stealing to use it without the pattern. Just my opinion.
If a designer has taken a well-known or common block and laid it out in a new way, I don't consider it stealing to mimic that layout in a quilt for myself. If they have developed a whole new block, then I consider it stealing to use it without the pattern. Just my opinion.
05-02-2010, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ditter43
Karen...I am sure it wouldn't be a problem....I took art classes years ago. Sometimes we would use a picture from a magazine for a subject. This question came up then. If I remember right, if you make seven changes to the origional there won't ever be a legal issue. Not that any of us were so good that was likely to ever be a problem. By the way, omissions count as changes....
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05-02-2010, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Deborah Rae
If you don't want your originals to be copied you need to state that it is copy protected and apply for the copy wright and the copy symbal needs to be displayed plus you have to let them know how many years the copy wright is in force and terms of use. If you don't do this the image is fair game to anyone. I made a mistake a few years ago on some of my photography pictures and saw my images on cards on ebay! When you buy a quilting book that basically is paying for the copy wright.
i understand the recurring questions. it's a seeminly complicated subject. however, i simply do not understand why this subject always generates such argument. if you didn't create it, it isn't yours. period.
if you want to copy something, and permission to do so isn't clearly published along with the work, then just ask the originator. if you don't know how to contact that person, then pick something else to do. it doesn't matter if the person who claims it isn't truly the person who created it. stealing from a thief is still stealing.
05-02-2010, 08:22 AM
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This is all so interesting. Someone upthread mentioned recipes. I don't want to hijack this topic, and maybe it belongs somewhere else, but, what about a recipe in a book I get from the library? Make for my family? Not for company or a potluck? I'm not talking selling. And then someone says, great, can I have the recipe? Do I share?
05-02-2010, 08:37 AM
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999/1000 people would give them a copy of the recipe. is that wrong? good question. my guess is that it would depend on the recipe and the result.
to be safe, refer the friends to the book you got it from. they may find other recipes they like, too.
that said, let's do limit this to quilting. ;-)
to be safe, refer the friends to the book you got it from. they may find other recipes they like, too.
that said, let's do limit this to quilting. ;-)
05-02-2010, 08:58 AM
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Having been published or displayed are such things not part of the "public domain"? However, I did make sure that a pattern I passed on was no longer being sold or was available elsewhere.
But, yeah, eg: a library book - I have scanned a pattern from a few.
But, yeah, eg: a library book - I have scanned a pattern from a few.
05-02-2010, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kitsie
Having been published or displayed are such things not part of the "public domain"? However, I did make sure that a pattern I passed on was no longer being sold or was available elsewhere.
But, yeah, eg: a library book - I have scanned a pattern from a few.
But, yeah, eg: a library book - I have scanned a pattern from a few.
The "rights to the copy" known as copyright are for the life of the creator PLUS 72 years.
Just because it's "out of print" doesn't make it "public domain" either.
05-02-2010, 10:12 AM
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Ok, let me ask a question - I've gotten confused now - While I never intend to sell any quilt I make from a pattern I see in a magazine or book I now wonder if making a quilt from said pattern is right or wrong? Am I stealing from the artist/designer in making my own quilt for my own home... or for a gift? If the answer is yes - why, then, do they have them in the book/magazine? OR is the conclusion that the selling/giving of the actual PATTERN is stealing?
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