C.Cal Quilt Girl

Oh no, should I be watching for a Quilters Wet Noodle Slappin contest over the weekend???? :lol: :lol: ;)

MistyMarie

Okay. I have rarely seen a quilt in a show or fair that has included the pattern designer (even at professional booths that show off long-arm skills). , I feel like I got a "well, duh" type of answer. I am trying hard not to feel like I was personally attacked for asking about including the designer's name when this doesn't appear to be the norm at all. Since I have never shown a quilt, I wasn't sure if this was expected since I haven't seen this being done, for the most part, and I doubt that most of the quilts were original creations and not from a pattern somewhere.

walen

You go right ahead and vent, and I'll vent right along with you! Sometimes folks just don't know what is right, and sometimes they just don't care. Sometimes people take credit for something that they didn't do, plagiarism, copyright infringement, or cheating. The world is a strange place from time to time.

I have faith that most of us do not steal or cheat. I believe we are honest quilters, enjoying our craft. We love seeing what everyone else has done and love sharing our ideas and sources.

Sometimes things get very confusing when talking about copyright laws. There have been many ideas brought forward about all of this and all are welcome.

However, I am sad to notice that some of our friends feel like they were criticized because they expressed an opinion or asked a question.

C.Cal Quilt Girl

Have seen where some shows require, name of the source of pattern, Could be McCalls, or Jane Doe, same as who Quilted the work. The originality is generally your color choices, and work. All other is kind and considerate to give credit where due, hopefully that is the correct source. :)

patricej

i think i've read all the way through the topic. i'm fairly certain i didn't read anything that jumped out to me as a personal attack on anybody. i hope i didn't miss something because we definitely don't want such things to happen around here.

i can promise you that nothing i said was intended to point to or chastise anybody at all, let alone any one person in particular.

that said, i'm sure i speak for everyone when i say we're sorry if something in the responses made you feel badly. this conversation addresses a subject that is "touchy" and confusing to a lot of people. with so many differing interpretations offered up by countless "experts", debate is unavoidable.

a spirited debate is not a bad thing. it offers all of us a chance to share our understanding or perspective of the topic at hand. it also offers opportunities to learn something new.

debate = good. arguments and catfights = bad.

so far, i think we're well on the "good" side of the line. ;-)

patricej

no worries there. i prefer to eat my noodles. ;-) :lol:

no worries here, either. i'm much too cheap to pay a lawyer. :lol:

Holice

This article is interesting about the subject.

http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...lArticle.shtml

Carolyn Peters is also a quilter

aliaslaceygreen

[quote=C.Cal Quilt Girl][quote=aliaslaceygreen]LMBO!!!! Too funny. It IS amazing how Great Minds think alike!!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: All in fun, Patrice, all in fun! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

aliaslaceygreen

You WERE NOT personally attacked. Your question was the ONLY one I felt even marginally comfortable answering. As you will note, nowhere in my response did I state any part of copyright law. I asked a question of the general 'you' about how you would feel if it were done to you.

Two wrongs (or omissions) don't make a right. You don't have to know whether other people are doing what is right to do right yourself.

I was suggesting that we all place ourselves on the other side of the designers table.

And for some reason, no matter how carefully I or others phrase things on this board, someone is always willing to jump to the other end of the possible meaning. (Not just you MM, it seems a hobby here... :cry: :cry: :cry: )

MistyMarie

I know that without hearing a tone of voice, or seeing body language expressions, that written communication can often be interpreted in a way that was not meant. I will take it as that.

I am very well-versed on what constitutes plagarism in the written and digital world, as well as the art world. I did my master's thesis on cyber-plagarism a few years ago. As a writer and English teacher, I constantly talk to my students about the importance of giving credit where credit is due.

However, since I don't see designer's names showing up on the paperwork that goes with many quilts in a show or a fair, I asked the question I did. I honestly don't think those quilters intended to mislead anyone. Granted, I have never been to a juried show... mostly guild shows and state fairs. I am sure in some of the fancy, shmancy quilt shows, there are stricter guidelines to adhere to.