Welcome to the Quilting Board!

Already a member? Login above
loginabove
OR
To post questions, help other quilters and reduce advertising (like the one on your left), join our quilting community. It's free!

Page 1 of 10 1 2 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 246

Thread: Did anyone else read this in McCall's mag

  1. #1
    Super Member LindaR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    2,943
    Blog Entries
    1
    the question was: can I enter a quilt I made from a McCalls mag or other mag in quilt show?

    Answer: a quilt show is a public display and therefore only the designer can enter the quilt However you can ask permission. the magazine owns or shares the copyright and should be approached for permission.

    I can't believe this, talk about quilt police...our guild has a local quilt show and wouldn't be displaying anything if this was the correct procedure....unbelieveable

  2. #2
    Super Member ghostrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    4,662
    People are going to believe what they want to believe and there's just no changing minds on this issue. McCall's is not making things up, it's part of the copyright law, and I guarantee you the magazine's attorneys approved the article prior to publication. If your guild wants to comply with the law, as many other shows already do, they may want to re-examine their policies. Like any law, whether or not you follow it is entirely up to you. However, not following it does not change the law one little bit.

  3. #3
    Super Member Theresa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Oregon City, OR
    Posts
    1,000
    Quote Originally Posted by LindaR
    the question was: can I enter a quilt I made from a McCalls mag or other mag in quilt show?

    Answer: a quilt show is a public display and therefore only the designer can enter the quilt However you can ask permission. the magazine owns or shares the copyright and should be approached for permission.

    I can't believe this, talk about quilt police...our guild has a local quilt show and wouldn't be displaying anything if this was the correct procedure....unbelieveable
    I suspect the designers welcome the viewing of their creations. Perhaps it is a simple thing just to request it.

  4. #4
    DJ
    DJ is offline
    Super Member DJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Pacific NW
    Posts
    2,654
    I have a very hard time believing this would hold up in court. I think the designers should be acknowledged when the quilts are displayed, but as far as getting "permission". I think that is ludicrus.

  5. #5
    Super Member hobo2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Boonsboro, MD
    Posts
    2,723
    Blog Entries
    1
    Believe me it does hold up in court. This is called "Intellectual Property" One of these cases was recently written up in , I think, Quilters Newsletter. Some designers will not give you permission for other then your own use that doesn't include shows or selling of the quilt. Thats only if its copyrighted.

  6. #6
    montanablu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    seemingly in the land of infants & toddlers!
    Posts
    582
    copyright issues --- here we go again!

  7. #7
    Moderator kathy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    on the Texas Coast
    Posts
    4,050
    I thought the reason they put patterns in the magazine was so we could all make our own versions, and I had no idea we couldn't display them.

  8. #8
    Senior Member stefanib123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    645
    There was a big "to-do" over the Cricut machines a while back about stuff like this. They had a so-called "angel policy" that was total bull. This site explains it all:

    http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...t/Cricut.shtml

    It tells a lot about copyrights and the laws concerning them. Very interesting.

  9. #9
    Super Member Annaquilts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    9,892
    yup I did and am really rethinking my renewed prescription. More of a reason to design your own or use blocks that have been around.



    Quote Originally Posted by LindaR
    the question was: can I enter a quilt I made from a McCalls mag or other mag in quilt show?

    Answer: a quilt show is a public display and therefore only the designer can enter the quilt However you can ask permission. the magazine owns or shares the copyright and should be approached for permission.

    I can't believe this, talk about quilt police...our guild has a local quilt show and wouldn't be displaying anything if this was the correct procedure....unbelieveable

  10. #10
    Super Member Charleen DiSante's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    near Boston, MA
    Posts
    1,022
    Oops, here's a neat typo: prescription instead of subscription and I agree, I do prescribe quilting as a great therapy :) Oh, and you don't need my permission to print this reply ;o)

  11. #11
    Senior Member BRenea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Seguin, TX
    Posts
    560
    Blog Entries
    1
    As quilters, we gather information and inspiration from so many sources I have to wonder if any of us can make something truly original. Even if we design our own quilts, haven't we been influenced by what we've seen previously? I understand the protective nature of copyrights, but it all seems to have gone too far. :?

  12. #12
    Super Member catmcclure's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Bay Area near San Francisco
    Posts
    1,219
    I like to make my own patterns. I have found it really easy to recreate antique quilts from some in the University of Nebraska-Lincoln collection. I wrote to ask permission to recreate for my own use. It was granted immediately. I have a great quilt (the B/W on this post), it's not copyrighted by anyone and I can show it anywhere I want.

  13. #13
    Super Member brenda21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    5,071
    Linda there was some info on another link that was about this topic
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-55879-1.htm

    I particularly think you should read the two comments/links posted on page one by scissor queen

  14. #14
    Power Poster BellaBoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Front row
    Posts
    14,661
    Blog Entries
    2
    Money talks. I dropped all quilt magazine subscriptions that did not allow a pattern in their magazine to be displayed after I make it. I don't buy quilt patterns that state do not display or sell the quilt you made from this pattern. I buy quilt books for the instructions how to make a pattern. Instructions are legal to use how you want but you can't copy the pages. EQ7 takes the place of all patterns so it's worth buying and learning. I don't mind at all spending my money on fabric instead of designer patterns.

  15. #15
    Super Member Charleen DiSante's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    near Boston, MA
    Posts
    1,022
    That's a good point about the instructions in books.

  16. #16
    JJs
    JJs is offline
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    LA - Lower Alabama
    Posts
    894
    I totally agree with Bellaboo - EQ it is!
    I still have a problem with their "you have to have internet access" to install/use the program but at least I can do what I want, go where I want, with the quilts I design and make.

  17. #17
    Super Member mrspete's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    NC - USA
    Posts
    2,971
    lol, well my best friend calls this the 'nanny state syndrome'. We have to be guarded and protected all over the place. hahaha oh I understand what you are saying. As long as folks can look at the stitching and placement, color changes it becomes a personal creation.......no copyright on that, is there. Just name it something different, but if asked, say you got the idea (not the pattern) from a magazine. No reference keeps you open territory, I would think. It would be different if you used a 'kit' and entered that quilt under your own tag. I agree, it is 'interesting'.

    Blessings, Ruth

  18. #18
    Super Member Theresa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Oregon City, OR
    Posts
    1,000
    Quote Originally Posted by Charleen DiSante
    Oops, here's a neat typo: prescription instead of subscription and I agree, I do prescribe quilting as a great therapy :) Oh, and you don't need my permission to print this reply ;o)
    :-)

  19. #19
    Super Member LindaR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    2,943
    Blog Entries
    1
    I really don't have a problem with the copywright cus I don't think I have ever made a quilt exactly like a pattern. A quilt teacher told me once..."Its your quilt, not mine, change whatever you want" and I do. I'm just wondering if this includes if you use the same fabric???? number of borders??? etc. further in the article it said you could sell a quilt made from someone elses pattern...????

  20. #20
    Senior Member sewgray's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston area
    Posts
    897
    Most people wouldn't give a magazine ownership or part ownership of a copywrite anyway. Most of the time it's just for one time use. If McCalls ask for any part of ownership I sure wouldn't be sending them any of my patterns or pitures.

  21. #21
    Super Member Scissor Queen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Southwest Kansas
    Posts
    4,829
    Quote Originally Posted by hobo2000
    Believe me it does hold up in court. This is called "Intellectual Property" One of these cases was recently written up in , I think, Quilters Newsletter. Some designers will not give you permission for other then your own use that doesn't include shows or selling of the quilt. Thats only if its copyrighted.
    Go read this page, http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...Patterns.shtml

    Designers do not have the right to tell you what you can or can't do with any item you make from their patterns.

  22. #22
    Senior Member cindyg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cypress (NW Houston), TX
    Posts
    583
    I agree. I don't think I've ever made a quilt exactly as the pattern is written whether in a magazine or a book. I always change the colors and usually the border. I don't think I would be breaking any laws if I decide to hang my quilt at a quilt show. If they don't want you using their patterns, why publish them? I do understand that it's a no-no to copy patterns and give them out to a class or friends. The designer deserves to make their money off it. If I were a designer, I would feel honored if quilters wanted to use my pattern and it would sure be interesting to see what color ways come out of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrspete
    lol, well my best friend calls this the 'nanny state syndrome'. We have to be guarded and protected all over the place. hahaha oh I understand what you are saying. As long as folks can look at the stitching and placement, color changes it becomes a personal creation.......no copyright on that, is there. Just name it something different, but if asked, say you got the idea (not the pattern) from a magazine. No reference keeps you open territory, I would think. It would be different if you used a 'kit' and entered that quilt under your own tag. I agree, it is 'interesting'.

    Blessings, Ruth

  23. #23
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Gosnells Western Australia
    Posts
    1,022
    Glad you noticed that slip up too Charlene :lol: Some say laws are meant to be broken but most of us try to abide by them - remember the old philosopher who said: "The law is an ass"!!! In that case, a prescription might come in handy :roll:

  24. #24
    Junior Member katmom54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    So. Maine
    Posts
    185
    Sorry, but I am tired of all the issues about copyrights and who can use what and who can show where. After reading some of these forums I feel like a criminal every time I see a really pretty quilt on the QB and I bookmark it for future reference...I am afraid that one day I will make a quilt and give it to someone as a gift and the 'original' artist will see it and come after me for royalites or something. I feel like I need to enclose a disclaimer with every project i do, and provide a letter of authenticity.
    Has crafting (ie, quilting) really become that cut-throat and commercial?
    I am not a crook - I don't steal from the LQS, I don't photocopy all my purchased patterns and sell them,and I don't sneak pics at quilt shows to make cheap multiples of the 'winner' to sell on Ebay .
    BUT....I am a crafter who enjoys other designs and techniques and incorporate them into my own projects. If I enter a show, I will abide by their rules (but have less and less interest in showing if it is that complicated) ...and since I have no plans to snitch designs and mass market them
    ...I am not going to worry about copyrights anymore.

  25. #25

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Paige, Texas
    Posts
    1,116
    Quote Originally Posted by LindaR
    the question was: can I enter a quilt I made from a McCalls mag or other mag in quilt show?

    Answer: a quilt show is a public display and therefore only the designer can enter the quilt However you can ask permission. the magazine owns or shares the copyright and should be approached for permission.

    I can't believe this, talk about quilt police...our guild has a local quilt show and wouldn't be displaying anything if this was the correct procedure....unbelieveable
    I just bought the new McCalls mag. today They have a story about copy right 101 in the mag. It will answer all you question.

Page 1 of 10 1 2 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.