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    An octagon is built on a 67.5 degree angle. I was going to post a pic but wasn't sure how to get it on this post. I drew a picture up in Coreldraw for acuracy. If you would like for me to send it to you via email send me a pm.

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    Why dont you contact Jenny Beyer? She could probably help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lainealex View Post
    I am attempting to draft several complicated Jinny Beyer eight-pointed star blocks from a couple of her books. The books show the grids, but the grids are very small and there are few if any instructions for how to draft.

    Thank you so much...

    Lainey
    Go to Jinny's website. There are tons of her star blocks for free. I'll bet your stars are there.

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    Is there any way you could make a card board or stock paper template, cut the star pieces out of muslin, sew them together and make a mock-up block to see how it work? I like to do that when making a garment to get a correct fit. Looks like it could be used for a complex block... just a thought, imho. However, I certainly am not an expert in block making. Would love to see your results though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catmcclure View Post
    Go to Jinny's website. There are tons of her star blocks for free. I'll bet your stars are there.
    I have contacted the JB studio twice, the blocks I am doing aren't there on the website...and the women at the studio weren't really able to help over the phone, too busy...

    Lainey

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiltjoey View Post
    Is there any way you could make a card board or stock paper template, cut the star pieces out of muslin, sew them together and make a mock-up block to see how it work? I like to do that when making a garment to get a correct fit. Looks like it could be used for a complex block... just a thought, imho. However, I certainly am not an expert in block making. Would love to see your results though.
    I want to post the block draft and also my sewing results (I have the central star sewn but NOT sure about the integrity, seemed like everything was a different size!) but I need to figure out how to post photos...I have a mac and somehow it's fussy with boards. Let me try though...

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    OK, let's see if this worked. I have hopefully attached a photo of the block I want to sew with a draft of the block next to it, out of Jinny Beyer's Patchwork Portfolio.
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    This is a beautiful design. I am assuming you wanted to fussy cut fabric like Jinny did to acheive the same tile mosaic effect.

    If that were not the case, I would have drafted it quite more simply than drawn out with 8 triangle meeting in the middle like a kaliediscope block. However, I have to agree that the block's beauty is definitely in how Jinny used her fabric and fussy cut motifs for specific areas.

    The center hex shouldn't have given you too much trouble. I would have drafted it like a mariner's compass star using a compass drafted circle for the center hex. Then once I had drafted my first 8 star points I would have drawn straight lines across where the star bases met the inner most circle to get my hex. From there I would have continued to draft like a multi pointed MC. However, I can see where those outside bits that form the background of your star would give you a lot of trouble. This definitely is the kind of block that would be best adapted to hand peicing. You should get Judy Mathieson's book "Mariner's compass setting a new course" she gives great directions in how to draft star blocks like this in any size.

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    I am sorry, I don't have a suggestion, but I would love to see your block (even your practice one) when you get it together. Please post a picture. Good luck

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    I've read this thread, don't have a clue about the drafting, but i'm looking forward to seeing your quilt!

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    Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions and ideas. I tried to sew the central star and it was just way off in terms of the template so when I went to the next step of setting in the following star, well, it was a disaster.

    Apparently I can't get EQ because I'm on a mac, so I think I am back to the drafting board, literally...

    The photos are giving me trouble to send but I will try to send my two previous drafts and my little off kilter central star...

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    I haven't forgotten about you and I've been working on it. I'm having a problem putting the smaller triangle points of the background stars. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to add it after. I'd like to post a PDF of what I've got so far but need to know what the finished size of the block will be.

    Thanks!

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    Here are the drafts I have done so far, they are not accurate enough for good templates nor is the enlargement of the Jinny Beyer block from the book (repeating myself I know, just to be clear)...the little inner star I did isn't accurate as all four lines are a little different from what they need to be.
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    Interesting - my Jinny Beyer Encyclopedia has a block with this name but it's a bit different. I'm including the beginnings of that block as a JPG.

    The octagon on mine is in a different orientation. I don't think mine's going to work at all for you.
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    Here is the enlarged JB block draft - my mac won't let me post the inner star for some reason.
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    Twelve inches.

    And THANKYOU!

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    Ya that's pretty different I'm afraid...

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    From the drawings you posted I can see why you are having issues. You need to be more accurate with your point and line placement. For instance, on the second drawing look at the second horizontal line from the top that is on each side of the top star point. On the left side the line is just above the point it is supposed to connect with and on the right side it does connect. If you looks closely at your drawings, there are issues like this in numerous places. Drafting intricate designs is not for the faint of heart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkms View Post
    From the drawings you posted I can see why you are having issues. You need to be more accurate with your point and line placement. For instance, on the second drawing look at the second horizontal line from the top that is on each side of the top star point. On the left side the line is just above the point it is supposed to connect with and on the right side it does connect. If you looks closely at your drawings, there are issues like this in numerous places. Drafting intricate designs is not for the faint of heart!
    And this is exactly my problem - it's hard! But I guess the only option is to keep slugging away at it?

    When you draft things like log cabins etc, there are points on the graph paper that you can measure and go to, with this design you can't use the graph paper because the points don't land on measurable places along the graph.

    From all the fantastic feedback and help I have received from everyone it seems to me that there isn't some kind of secret formula for making this easy, it's just hard and I have to keep drafting and be patient.

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    Does JB sell the pattern in the size you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueheavenfla View Post
    Does JB sell the pattern in the size you want?
    No, she doesn't but Vivian from this board has drafted the block for me now - with templates! I am incredibly grateful to her and will post back when I have some sewing to show.

    Thank you so much, Vivian, after so much struggle on this...

    Thank you...

    Lainey

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueheavenfla View Post
    Does JB sell the pattern in the size you want?
    No, she doesn't but Vivian from this board has drafted the block for me now - with templates! I am incredibly grateful to her and will post back when I have some sewing to show.

    Thank you so much, Vivian, after so much struggle on this...

    Thank you...

    Lainey

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    OK, making progress...


    Here is the block from Vivian at eight inches printed out from my computer. I then scanned and enlarged it to twelve inches. She also gave me templates which I scanned and enlarged to fit a twelve inch block.


    Lainey
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    And here is what I have cut and laid out so far - unfortunately my camera is butchering the colors. The only thing I have sewn is the center star just to see if that was going to work. I didn't like the way the center octagon looked so I went with a star instead, but none of this is final. I'm not sure about the blue border stripe - the two stripes were just scraps since I'm not sure how to cut and piece those yet...the templates didn't include the stripes so I have to make my own temps for that.

    So just a first draft, but I think I have the pieces cut properly other than the stripes - just absolutely no clue how to sew this together other than the center star...I guess all the succeeding pieces will have to be sewn into units and then set in?

    Eek!
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    Here is another version of the block - still experimenting with fabrics...
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