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Thread: joanns vs lqs

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    While talking to the owner of our lqs she stated that Joann's fabric is substandard. Even the Micheal Miller, Kona all of it she said. In her rantings about Joann's she informed me that Joann's only gets the trial run of the prints that are printed on lower quality fabric. If that's true, then why do they still charge the same amount as the lqs. Now I've bought the same fabric at joanns and the lqs and I cant tell the difference. So do you think this gal is just trying pull my leg?

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    I don't know, but ranting isn't the way for the LQS to encourage people to shop at her business.

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    Why don't you buy one fabric from the lqs and the "same" one from Jo-anns.

    Take them both home -

    Put some little mark on each one (such as a triangle or circle) - take it back to the lqs owner - and see if she can tell the difference?

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    No I believe her because I called one of the manufactures last year. I was at Joann's and was shocked to see almost the same fabric that was at LQS for like $3 yard cheaper. When I called they had a rep call me back and he explained that it's a different fabric run and if I compared the 2 together I would see the LQS one was a higher quality fabric. I can't say its true for all of them but it was the one I asked. At the Joann's in Brandon FL the prices are the same if not higher than my LQS. I was there last week and many of the quilting cottons were $9.99 yard and the batiks were $12.99. The same fabrics are at my LQS for $9.99/$10.99 and her batiks are $9.99. I try and support her when I can. Joann's claims well they have coupons however I never have one current when I'm going so I'll stick the the LQS when I can. I do get W&N batting at Wal-mart for $5.25 yard.

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    http://www.quiltingboard.com/user_po...m=12167&page=1

    This is a posting about Kona Cottons

    It MAY apply to other lines, also.

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    She wants all your business.

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    Joann doesn't have the same quality on most fabrics. To be fair, I have seen some lesser quality fabric lines at my LQS, too. But I don't buy it if it doesn't feel good or have a tighter weave. If I can, I buy all my notions at Joann with a coupon, but my fabric at the LQS. My friend's shop gives me 10% off because I am a member of a quild and she also has a punch card reward system. I try to use her or the other local LQSs because of the punch cards. Joann hasn't conviced me I should spend the same amount for lesser quality goods (Kona excepted). I also get irritated when someplace raises the prices so they can get a bigger price on sales.

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    if each store has the same fabric from the same manufacturer its the same.

    Kaufman is trying so hard to stop these lies because it reflects on them.

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    I've read that this is true, but she should have said it in a better way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabric_fancy
    if each store has the same fabric from the same manufacturer its the same.

    Kaufman is trying so hard to stop these lies because it reflects on them.
    Agreed.

    I would say, though, that even in the higher-priced designer calicos that JoAnn carries, you have to look at it very carefully. I have seen (fairly frequently) problems in the printing that repeat throughout the whole bolt, or irregularities in the weave of the cloth (slubs etc). Neither of these will affect how the fabric holds up, but you will want to watch as they unroll & cut it, to make sure there aren't any flaws in it. Especially if you're buying it for backing, or any other time you need a large piece.

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    'Substandard' might have been the wrong word. But oftentimes two fabrics that appear to be the same (the same design) may not be.

    They may be printed on different quality greige goods (the unprinted cloth).

    They may be the first run of the fabric (strikeoffs) and don't have all the finishing processes added (which help prevent shrinking or fading).

    They may have a slight inconsistency in the printing and can't be sold as first quality (i.e. the middle of a flower is printed in the wrong place or the wrong color).

    Why does Joann's charge the same price? Perhaps because they run a lot of sales or have 40% off coupons and they still need to make a profit??

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    While I agree - after fingering a lot of known brand fabric in Joanne's - the quality is NOT the same, I disagree with the LQS' owners method of ranting about it. Not a good business practice IMO. No, it wouldn't drive me to Joanne's in rebuttal, but it would drive me to another LQS.

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    It pretty much goes back to the old adage: Buyer Beware!

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    One more note on the subject, there are 'knock-offs" very often a popular fabrics will be immitated just to the point of a copyright infringement.
    I have found a few "knock-offs" at Joanns , one was a Hoffman Christmas print. The Hoffman was fabulous , but on very close inspection the prints design was off just a bit and the Hoffman had 19 colors in the registration on the selvage. The JoAnn version ( knock off) had only 10 . The cheaper knock off appeared "flatter" in color depth and intesity. .... and yes the fabric it was printed on was much much thinner. But from a distance of about 6-8 ft ... it would be tough to tell the two apart unless they were side by side.
    There was a popular Kaufman line they printed lots of colors, Jo Ann's had a Knock -off , the print again similiar but not the same number of colors used in the printing , cheaper fabric, and no where near the color choices. .... and just to the edge of a copywright infringement.
    As for the "trial " runs being sold ... I know no manufacture that engages in selling a less than exceptable fabric that meets their standards for quality ... the damage to the brand's reputation is not worth the few $$$ in fabric used.

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    people who have worked in manufacturing fields understand how this works- i worked for a lighting company for a number of years- we would have one mold/material to run light fixtures for Macy's and the same mold/material to run the walmart orders---the difference was QUALITY!!!
    the Macy's run we were allowed to have 1 bubble in the plastic in a fixture---more than one bubble they were scrapped-
    for walmart's order (same part ect) we could have up to 6 bubble in an inch to pass --
    it works the same for most things manufactured- different places may buy the same parts- but they have different quality standards---Joannes is about the same as walmart---but they sure like to charge as if they are an lqs---once in a while they even do get something close
    when ours built their new store i guess new building meant they could double their prices- i get much better deals at our lqs- for much better quality-
    and even if their fabric (feels) the same---look at it- panals are often far from square- or even- designs are---off- lots of lesser standards.

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    I was at a LQS the other day and we were talking about the markup of fabric prices due to the jump in cotton. Topic came around to WalMart as her competition and she was actually very gracious. Said that she used to get some fabric from WM when she liked the print but then she did a quality test. She cut both (WM and LQS) fabrics into same size pieces. Marked one set and ran them through the wash. Her comment was that after watching the cheaper fabric lose luster, she decided that she wasn't putting any energy into something that might deteriorate.

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    Most of the time I just buy what I think is pretty and reasonably priced. If its really thin and flimsy I pass. If I'm gonna pay 10 big ones for a yard of fabric then it better be the better quality. My mom hasn't sewn in years, and was in shock when she went to the fabric store with me. She said back in her day it was cheaper to make all you clothing and anything else you could sew, but now its cheaper to go buy what you want and need already made. Sad how things change.

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