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    my braided runner

    Hi again...this is tapper...... with yet another question.

    A person has asked to buy my braided runner. Is it an infringement of copyright to sell it?

    I may want to sell more of these braided runners but want to make sure that I am doing the right thing.

    I did my runner just from a picture on the 'net.

    Does someone have a copyright on this pattern?

    Thanks for your help.

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    if you used the (french braid) patterns you can email Jane Hardy Miller- contact through her website & ask for permission to sell your item- send her a picture of it too. generally the infringment would be if you were selling the pattern- or a copy of the pattern without permission- the finished item is yours to do with as you please- but it never hurts to send a picture to the designer & ask if they mind if you sell it.
    I made one quilt a few years ago that the designer would not allow me to offer it for sale publically- or on the internet- i could display it- but not (sell) it. I don't think that is (common practice) though- i've had others who love that i'm selling their quilts---you do need to include the designer information on the label- but it sounds as if you did not use someone's pattern--a (technique) i don't think can be (copyrighted)... but if it does look like one of Jane's copyrighted patterns you should send her a picture & a note about your intention- she will write back & give you more information.
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    If you are going to sell just the one, you probably will be able to and not get into trouble. If you were planning on making several and selling, there could be a problem with that. It would be best to write and ask for permission.

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    Can you post a picture? There are several free online ones which would mean that you don't have to worry.

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    copyright is such a difficult thing to understand. my thought is that since you didn't use or buy a pattern - jan hardy miller's to be specfic - and made your own, i don't think copyright infringement comes into play. i make up my own patterns all the time, and i don't believe that my ideas are original, meaning that someone somewhere at some time has made a component that is in my original quilt. it seems to me that you had a skill that would allow you to look at a quilted piece and make something similar. you could do the same with my "original" quilt (see my avatar). although i am not a famous designer, i am a designer none-the-less. that said, do what you feel is necessary.
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    Here is a link to the pic that I used for inspiration.

    http://img0.etsystatic.com/003/1/586...10200_mcqm.jpg

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    It appears much like Jenny Doan's @ Missouri Star Quilt, newest tutorial just a smaller width strips version ~

    I agree with copyright being extremely confusing and there have been numerous threads here and other boards, with supposed expert advice on both sides of the fence.

    The more opinions expressed here about copyright the more confusing it gets. Since I don't sell my quilts or projects it is most definitely a hobby and the things I make are made for gifting or personal use, the copyright debate that goes on and on doesn't seem to apply to me personally.

    Again as rush88888 stated in her post, her final statement, ..."do what you feel is necessary."
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    That pattern is free on Quiltbug. I'm sure as a free download, it is meant to shared. You only made yours scrappy instead of two colors.
    http://quiltbug.com/free/table-topper.htm

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    This is a free pattern so I don't think you have to worry about selling it.

    A purchased pattern may give you the copyright parameters. If it doesn't you can check the vendor's website. Most of the parameters state you can make and sell the item but only in a limited amount. What they are more concerned with is that you do not sell their pattern, or give it away, or copy it. Others ask you to get their permission before selling the item (I've only had to do this once). I've only had one vendor who said absolutely no but I didn't want to sell the quilt, I wanted to donate it for a fundraiser and she said that was ok.

    If you are going to sell it, and it is someone's pattern, than you should include their information on the item and give them credit for the design. I usually do so by attaching a removable tag with their information on it.
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    From the research that I done, the copyright is on the pattern, not on an item made from the pattern. In other words, if you copy the pattern and try to sell it as your own, you would be in violation of copyright. An item made from the pattern is not under copyright. In fact, some companies have tried to say that they have copyright on items made from copyrighted patterns and they lost in court.

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    Thanks so much to all those that took the time to reply. I can always count on QB members for information.
    Lots of differing opinions but I think you could sell runners made from this pattern.
    I didn't realize it at the time, but I went back to the site where I found my inspiration pic and it is a runner for sale on etsy, so apparently people are selling projects made from the pattern.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/11671258...m_campaign=api

    Thanks again for your input.

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    I do not understand this copy right stuff. If the pattern is for sale for anyone to make then what a person does with it should be their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapper View Post
    Here is a link to the pic that I used for inspiration.

    http://img0.etsystatic.com/003/1/586...10200_mcqm.jpg
    I made that pattern from a free pattern I got off the internet.....if it's a free pattern why would you have to ask permission to sell it??? Just about all my patterns are free from the internet, altho I don't sell them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    That pattern is free on Quiltbug. I'm sure as a free download, it is meant to shared. You only made yours scrappy instead of two colors.
    http://quiltbug.com/free/table-topper.htm
    I have a question about the statement at the bottom of this website....about donation to cf..........this is a free pattern that I have seen in many mags, many times for a long time.....so I cannot understand how the website can say, use for free with donation...................

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    but they do request a donation to cystic fibrosis. see the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    That pattern is free on Quiltbug. I'm sure as a free download, it is meant to shared. You only made yours scrappy instead of two colors.
    http://quiltbug.com/free/table-topper.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    That pattern is free on Quiltbug. I'm sure as a free download, it is meant to shared. You only made yours scrappy instead of two colors.
    http://quiltbug.com/free/table-topper.htm

    And she states "Feel free to copy and share".
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    Copyright pertains only to WRITTEN information and photos. Many designers abusively try to limit what can be done with sewn products, but it is not legally binding. You can sell your work if you want.
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    I would like to, once again, send many thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply.
    I appreciate it.

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