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    Old 02-27-2012, 01:23 PM
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    And the nice thing about the old standards, you can change the color or orientation or placement a bit and have a block specific to your needs----------or likes. AND you're not bound to the previous name. You can rename it, to suit yourslef.
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    Old 02-27-2012, 01:27 PM
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    Originally Posted by karate lady
    this whole sub ject can be sooooooooooooooo confusing. Here is my thought. If I buy your book of patterns (which is probably full of old ones) then I feel I have paid for the right to use them any way I wish as long as I acknowlege where I got it. I don't sell my quilts (that makes it work) but give them to family and friends. So there!!


    Works for me, for sure!
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    Old 02-27-2012, 01:27 PM
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    Grannie I don't see how you can possibly be wrong when you change her patterns as just look at all of the spin offs with very little change being sold personly I think this copyright thing has gotten completely out of hand and doing way more harm to the quilting world than anything else could I think it all started when McCalls poblished that article that magazine use to be my favorite but I thought if they could publish something that far off then turn around and print sinoff patterns I wanted no part of them I thre all I had in the trash as I didn't want someone else to make the mistake of using one either anyway when I see a pattern I like just go for it and have fun I do even sell some who needs the magazines with all the patterns on the internet sew and have fun and don't worry about a few
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    Old 02-27-2012, 02:06 PM
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    I think the word you are looking for is "Public Domain"
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    Old 02-27-2012, 02:10 PM
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    Ok, I understand that the typed words on the page are copyrighted and not the actual block, but unless it is some completely brand new method, it is just someone stating in their own words how to do something that is already well known and listing a bunch of measurements for us to use. It makes sense that we should not be able to print out all the directions, put them in a book and sell it, or use it as a handout in a class, etc. But why should that persons name go on the finished project as stated in the terms on the Quilter's Cashe page? If I start a bake shop and sell apple pies I do not put the name of the person who grew the apples on the label, or from which cookbook I first learned the method to make pie crust. I just sell it as my apple pie. The finished project is my work. I can see listing the name of the person if I buy a kit with all the fabric included which was selected or created by that person and she created the pattern (such as an applique something or other where there is no much room for creativity) because all the work other than sewing it together was done by someone else. But since as many have said earlier, it is almost impossible to use the same fabric, especially since a lot of them are computer created pictures with generic solid colors being used. I have looked at that site and liked it and decided that if I use several of the patterns from Quilters Cashe than I will donate money because she did make a site and right directions but I do not agree that her name should go on the finished product unless it really is a unique block she created (or seems to be.) I do not plan on selling any quilts, or at least not yet as I am still learning. Does this seem reasonable to other people? I am new and don't want to do anything wrong but don't want to give credit to someone for nothing.
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    Old 02-27-2012, 02:14 PM
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    On a funnier note, I could always tell her that it is not her block. Say for example her block was six inches square. I really doubt even if I make a king size quilt I could even get one block to be absolutely perfect. (Nothing I have made so far is very good but it is mine so I don't care. I just had fun making it.) My blocks might be 5.999999999 inches or 6.001 and so it is not the same as her block at all.
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    Old 02-27-2012, 02:21 PM
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    Well Said GrannieAnnie.My Father would have said.Just because he pooped in the woods didn`t make him a bear.
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    I am a fiber artist and design art quilts etc. I am protective of my copyrights, but I do have issues understanding the controversy over traditional blocks in most cases. This is a very complicated issue. I know it is becoming more of an issue particularly when people enter a quilt that a "celebrity quilter" designed and that person wins a prize. Then a quilt guild makes a CD or book for sale with photos of all those quilts at their show (many copyrighted designs) and they have an issue making money off of that.

    If you make the quilts for your own enjoyment, do not sell them, do not teach them, do not win prizes for them, do not convey that you designed them, then you may be safe. Very complicated issue, too bad we aren't in the simple days, right? I don't make light of this, but most people are making quilts as a hobby.
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    Old 02-27-2012, 02:36 PM
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    Originally Posted by lyndarva
    I am a fiber artist and design art quilts etc. I am protective of my copyrights, but I do have issues understanding the controversy over traditional blocks in most cases. This is a very complicated issue. I know it is becoming more of an issue particularly when people enter a quilt that a "celebrity quilter" designed and that person wins a prize. Then a quilt guild makes a CD or book for sale with photos of all those quilts at their show (many copyrighted designs) and they have an issue making money off of that.

    If you make the quilts for your own enjoyment, do not sell them, do not teach them, do not win prizes for them, do not convey that you designed them, then you may be safe. Very complicated issue, too bad we aren't in the simple days, right? I don't make light of this, but most people are making quilts as a hobby.
    If I use a pattern a traditional pattern, I will not be bullied into not selling or not teaching or not entering it for prizes.
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    Old 02-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by quilter1942
    Well Said GrannieAnnie.My Father would have said.Just because he pooped in the woods didn`t make him a bear.
    the standing in the garage and calling myself a car is not my quote.-----------------but I very much agree.
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