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Thread: Need some border help please

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    Super Member amandasgramma's Avatar
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    I never measure....well, I do measure so I know I have enough border, but I don't cut it to "fit" before I sew it on! Just make sure you have enough border, sew with the quilt on the bottom and sew from top to bottom. I never have wavy borders. Oh, I also never pin...I hate pins. I also NEVER stretch the border. I just lay it on and sew away.

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    Could be you tensions (bottom & top) aren't even on your machine. Check your manual to remedy this problem. You may want to use a rolling foot, too. Ruffling of the border is probably a problem with one layer (border or pieced top) getting stretched more than the other.

    Another hint: spray the edges of your pieced top and iron them flat (again) before applying the spray starched and ironed border.

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    When I sew the borders on I go to a slightly larger stitch than for piecing. Because you are sewing long seams sometimes the machine stitching tightens in places because of the way you guide the fabric thru or start & stopping, so when I loosen it by 3 stitches it takes care of that happening. I try to sew without stopping and simply let the machine pull the fabric thru. I have never had a wavy border

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    I measure down the center and pin the border (cut to that dimension) first on each end, then in the middle, then in half again, then in half again......If there is any discrepancy between the border and the outer side of the top, the difference will be absorbed or adjusted for evenly. If I don't pin, it has a tendency to get wonky. Once the sides are on, I press the seam and repeat the step for the other side.

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    pin centers, pin ends, and pin inbetween.

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    I don't understand why you add the step #3. Other than that, it's exactly how I do it!

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    Wow, Scissor Queen, your comment about how you piece together your blocks, never thought of that! I'll see how that works with my next quilt

    I couldn't understand what the problem was with borders. But now i understand why it is important to square up your quilt before putting on the border. But I use the method of cutting to the length plus a little more and cutting off the excess. I didn't know you're supposed to have the exact measurement and ease in. thanks all.

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    I don't measure my borders - I cut the width I need for the borders and make sure it is longer than the quilt. fold the quilt in half, and lay my borders on the middle of the quilt, and carefully, 2,3 or even 4 times smooth it and make sure top edges are even. When I am satisfied it is as even and straight as it can be, I cut to length while it is on top of the quilt, being careful not to cut the quilt. Fold in halves, quarters, fold the quilt sides in half, quarters etc and put pins together at marks, and pin
    I have never had one come out crazy.

    Jackey in MO

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    If you have more than one border on a side make sure they are both cut the same way - either lengthwise or crosswise of grain otherwise they will be wavy.

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    1. Press quilt with dry iron.
    2. Measure quilt through middle (vertically and horizontally)
    3. Add 2x width of that measurement and cut border strips to that length
    4. Attach top and bottom borders
    5. Attach side borders[/quote]

    Hi Shannon,
    I see two things that give me pause - first of all, I'm with the others that don't understand step 3. If I am reading it correctly,
    after you measure the middle, both lenghtwise, and crosswise,
    do you add something to that measurement? If you are, that
    could be your problem, because you only need the exact width and length that you get when you measure - nothing added to that.

    I think the other thing is pressing the whole quilt first, even with a dry iron. The dry iron part is good, but pressing really stretches the quilt unless you just put the iron in one spot, leave it for a minute (without moving the iron back and forth at all), and then move to the next spot.

    You are measuring the best way, because if you measure in the middle, both vertically and horizontally, you will get the right
    measurement for your strips.

    When you cut your strips, never double fold the fabric (double folding is where you take the folded edge and fold it again to the selvage). I know it is easier to cut that way, but that almost always gives you wavy borders that are very hard to make lay flat. It is always best when cutting strips of any kind to measure from the folded edge and cut the entire width of the fabric, using a long ruler.

    After the strips are cut, find the middle of each border strip and pin that to the exact middle of your quilt. Then, pin each end of the border strip to the ends of the quilt. From there, pin every few inches, either working in any excess you may have, or stretching the border slightly to stretch out any that you might need too. If you feel more comfortable pinning every inch or so, that is fine, but the main thing is the pin enough to keep the border secure, especially in spots that you might have to ease in excess fabric, or stretch out spots that need to be.

    I, personally, always sew the top and bottom on first, then the sides, but I suppose that is personal preference.

    Others have been right that if the quilt itself isn't straight, it is hard to get the borders straight, but using the technique above will almost always help pull the quilt in or work it out so that it will be straight in the end. Oh, one more thing is to make sure any inner borders are done the same way as the outer borders, because inner borders that are wavy or bowed will absolutely affect the outer border.

    You have gotten other good suggestions. I think you are on the right track, but I hope these tips help.
    Marcia

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    I tried measuring top middle and bottom taking an average....It worked perfect
    Linda

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    Thank you for this discussion....especially Scissor Queen for your assembly method. I'm a beginning and (so far) have not had trouble with borders but all of these tips are so useful. I always learn something from every discussion on this Board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnitaSt
    Thank you for this discussion....especially Scissor Queen for your assembly method. I'm a beginning and (so far) have not had trouble with borders but all of these tips are so useful. I always learn something from every discussion on this Board!
    Thanks. It's because I was a beginner and decided I really don't like long seams so I figured out how to do it another way and discovered the quilt came out squarer that way. So now I always do it that way.

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    Scissor Queen, did you ever get moved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melinda in Tulsa
    Scissor Queen, did you ever get moved?
    We got moved although I haven't got the sewing room unpacked yet. I've got about half of it unpacked so far but I need hubby to help me move some furniture and he's been working 12 hour shifts for a week. As soon as he recovers from that we'll rearrange and I'll get the rest of it unpacked.

    I gave up hunting for my camera battery charger and my computer speakers and just got new ones.

    As soon as I get the next quilt to the assembly stage I'll do a tutorial of how to put the blocks together not in rows.

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. The quilt I'm starting on now has something like 7 borders so I'll have plenty of chances to put them into practice.

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    I also used to use starch until some one told me that starch attracts silverfish, which are common in our area of central Oregon. I hate bugs! I now use a spritz of sizing every time I press (not iron), and I have no trouble getting every thing to match. I used this method when I made my big quilt (110x112), and every thing fit! It does make for a crisp quilt, but I do not hand quilt, so no problem. It helps when machine quilting so the fabric is less likely to "scootch" on me. The first time I launder a quilt, I get a lovely 'bloom' of the quilting. I hope this helps.

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    I always attach the sides first.

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    i was told to set the seams before pressing the seams that it is suppose to help with the wavy problem and not to drag the iron just press

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    Quote Originally Posted by smtp5
    I always heard to put the sides on first, then the top and bottom.
    this is the way I put mine on too

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    Sharon Schambers has a tut on this on You Tube. She tells how to avoid wavy borders. Check it out.

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    Sorry if I am repeating what anyone else has said. It is late and I'm to tired to read everyone's.

    I press with spray starch and steam
    I cut down the selvage (not across) it does take more fabric, cut I have a drawer of leftover border fabrics, pulled out 2 today for a scrappy log cabin.
    I measure the top and bottom( or both sides). If I running short of fabric I put on the longer sides first.
    I have the quilt folded in half, and fold the border fabric in half.
    Pin in center and each end, space in the middle (between pins) and pin again at least 2 or 3 depending on the length. I ALWAYS stitch with the border on top, I use a walking foot when attaching my binding.
    Let us know how you make out, hopefully with all the tips you will get the results you are looking for:)

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    I second that! Very important to see that the material doesn't get stretched.


    Quote Originally Posted by MegsAnn
    Pin, pin, pin like CRAZY! That helps me.

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    Scissor queen, if you don't put your quilts in rows, how do you put them together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbie
    Scissor queen, if you don't put your quilts in rows, how do you put them together?
    It's kind of a long explanation and it's on page 2 of this topic.

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