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Thread: NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE printed on selvage of fabric?

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    NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE printed on selvage of fabric?

    I received a query from a CA friend asking if I had seen anything on this board about "NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE" being printed on the selvage of fabric. Then when it is used in a quilt and the quilt is sold, the designers of the fabric are suing the quilters!! This is the first I have heard anything like this at all. Have any of you seen this or heard of it??

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    Yes, I have seen and in fact I do have one fabric that says that on the selvage.
    Some designers are very protective of their designs.

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    Seems like everyone needs a piece of the "pie" even though it fringes on the line of ridiculous!! JMO.

    If all the designers start doing that how do you buy fabric for use in a business?
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    There was a seller on ebay that was sued for this same thing, selling items made from licensed fabrics, the sellers won because the fabric was made to be used and after it was sold it was fair game. However, now they put that on the selvage to protect the designers, so haven't heard anymore about it. We should investigate and see what is going on with this now. When "we" have some time. I would think they would be happy to let people make things from their fabric designs and sell it, it doesn't make sense to me because you are not making their fabric or trying to copy their fabric design.
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    I think you will find that phrase on licensed fabrics (cartoons, sports teams, colleges, etc), not fabrics by 'regular' designers. Licensed things have different laws that apply to them (no matter what Tabberone claims). It is not the designers that sue, it is the corporations who hold the license.
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    i sell all my work and i'm very careful about this issue. 99% of the time i work with fabric i made myself to avoid any issues.

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    The legal owners of the Characters/Logos/etc get paid for the use of their images on the fabric.
    Since they have already been paid a royalty, I do not understand how they think they can control how the fabric is used.
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    i just think that this legal stuff is getting ridiculous. I mean come on. Lets all take a breath before calling for a suit to be filed. those that sell make sure that you read your selvages now.
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    I am currently working with a fabric that has "License is required for any use beyond individual consumption". It is a Warren Kimble for Quilting Treasures fabric. I'm now hesitant to sell these items at a craft show.

    If I see this kind of disclaimer on fabrics again I will definitely boycott them.
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    The 'big guys ie: Disney, NFL, etc' don't want you to make money off of things with their 'picture' on it that they could make themselves. You see a stuffed bear with a t-shirt with an emblem of mickey mouse on it and you think, 'oh, that's cute! I could make some just like it, but I know that with the Giants on it that would sell better.' Well, that is where you are taking away money from Disney and 'infringing' on their product. You don't even have to get the idea that way, but it is still 'infringing' on their profits..... That is why they are putting that statement on the edge of their fabric. As a person that sells items I have avoided making things with any of the 'licensed' items. I can't afford to pay for a lawyer and I have also found that most people aren't buying that type of stuff in what I sell. I do make stuff for family and friends with this type of fabric when it is a gift. BUT other than that if it has that warning on the edge I by pass it. If we don't buy it in the first place they don't get any money and may re-think their greediness and give us little guys a break . This is just my opinion and I say it only about myself.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteQuilts View Post
    ............BUT other than that if it has that warning on the edge I by pass it. If we don't buy it in the first place they don't get any money and may re-think their greediness and give us little guys a break . This is just my opinion and I say it only about myself.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteQuilts View Post
    If we don't buy it in the first place they don't get any money and may re-think their greediness and give us little guys a break ......
    I totally agree with not buying...i.e. boycott.

    The fabric I have is not a "team" or "business" type, just a lovely printed pattern.
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    I still wonder what would happen if one of these companies decided to sue someone who sold items at a yard sale or auction. Seems just kind of ridiculous to me!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    I think you will find that phrase on licensed fabrics (cartoons, sports teams, colleges, etc), not fabrics by 'regular' designers. Licensed things have different laws that apply to them (no matter what Tabberone claims). It is not the designers that sue, it is the corporations who hold the license.
    I have a blue print fabric that is not cartoon/sports/colleges, just an ordinary fabric. On the selvage it says " Giordano Studios LLC. These designs are intended for home craft use only. Any commercial use is prohibited by Giordano Studios and is protected under United States copyright law"

    Another print I have says "Quilting Treasures A licence is required for any use beyond any individual consumption"

    I am not going to comment on anything other than these fabrics are not special in any way regarding licensed images .

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    IMHO commercial does not mean buying a few yards of fabric, making a few quilts and selling them. Commercial items would be made in bulk and sold in large numbers. But I think I would be a little careful with licensed characters, ect.

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    Well are 'they' going to sue Goodwill? Just this week I ran across several yards of a princess fabric that had that statement on the selvage. I couldn't decide whether it was 100% cotton or where I'd use it so I passed it up.

    I agree...if it bothers us, we shouldn't buy it in the first place...then it won't end up in a resale shop down the road.
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    It is such a shame the big guys have to stop small individuals from having fun making a project and maybe, maybe, being able to make a couple of bucks. Noone is goung to get rich making these items and may just help those big guys get talked about more.

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    "Individual consumption" makes it sound like you'll be eating it for supper. Haven't tasted any of my fabrics lately . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnie View Post
    I am currently working with a fabric that has "License is required for any use beyond individual consumption". It is a Warren Kimble for Quilting Treasures fabric. I'm now hesitant to sell these items at a craft show.
    If I see this kind of disclaimer on fabrics again I will definitely boycott them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteQuilts View Post
    If we don't buy it in the first place they don't get any money and may re-think their greediness and give us little guys a break . This is just my opinion and I say it only about myself.....
    I agree. If we don't buy the licensed fabrics that will cut into their profits. However my thinking is if you are going to boycott thier fabrics you need to let them know why you will no longer buy their fabrics and you also need to try to make it a national boycott involving more than a few people. Otherwise it is a futile effort because there will always be someone who will buy it.
    I just think it is corporate greed and they have the high priced attorney's to back it up. I get protecting ones copy right, but once I buy that fabric and pay the price whice includes the copy right fees , which im sure are rolled into the cost, I should be able to sell any item I make out of it. If I was actually copying their logo's or items then they would be entitled to sue me. I also know that is what it would be like in the perfect world.
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    Do they only think that quilters only quilt for themselves? I will not buy any if it says that on it. You would think they would be proud that someone bought it and then someone else liked it enough to but it again. Are they not wanting their product made into beautiful works of art. Does this mean we can't make items for family members as well, it is not for personal use?
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    As mentioned earlier in this thread ... it's about licensing. It's kind of like a "franchise" (a bit of a stretch, I know!) but hear me out!!! ....... you can't put up a pair of golden arches and open up McD's. For the fabric, etc. they have licensing arrangements with people as to how it can be used.

    Eg. John Deere Fabric ... you could buy it and make things to sell. However, at the same time they have given someone the rights to use their logo for commercial goods. Thus, if you are selling things, then you are stomping on their business ..... even if it's something totally unrelated, potentially the customer might buy your Bow Tucks as a Christmas gift, instead of buying a sweatshirt.

    And yes, I recognize that some of the fabrics are not famed characters/logos .... though I would think the same concept applies for the others. The designer perhaps has been commissioned to design a line for someone else ... or even further businesses of their own.

    Probably fits into the same realm as all the copyright laws for not photocopying from books, or photographers photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvTooQuilt View Post
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    I think I will just avoid the whole thing. There is a large supply of fabric without any restrictions and I will stick to that. If I am going to purchase something I want to be able to do anything I want with it. They can just keep it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnie View Post
    I am currently working with a fabric that has "License is required for any use beyond individual consumption". It is a Warren Kimble for Quilting Treasures fabric. I'm now hesitant to sell these items at a craft show.

    If I see this kind of disclaimer on fabrics again I will definitely boycott them.
    I would not buy fabric with this on the selvage. If I gift an item with this on the selvage & that person sells it am I still going to be sued.
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