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Thread: Queen size pattern to Full size

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    I have a carpenter's star pattern that was done by a friend of mine in Queen size. How do I get her 96" square quilt down to a full size pattern? I can't seem to find anything online and what I did find is not for the simple minded like me! Please help solve my problem:(

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    I would just leave off or make the outer border smaller.

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    Well, what do you consider full size? I've done kings that are 95" square.

    I'm going to guesstimate that those blocks in the king size quilt are 6" finished.

    If you make the same exact pattern, but do it with 4.5" (finished) blocks, you'd get approx a 72" square quilt. That whole pattern is just plain squares and HST blocks. You just have to figure out the color combos of the HST blocks and make them. I would cut the starting squares at 5.75", draw the line, sew on each side, blah, blah, blah, cut on the diagonal, and then trim down to 5" unfinished. Layout the blocks per the picture, sew them together and you're practically done.

    You can always add a border at the top and bottom to get it longer to fit a bed if that's what you want/need.

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    I'd probably just leave a border off -- but if you wanted to reduce the whole thing I think it would be about .1 smaller.. so take each piece and multiply the measurement by .9 to get the new size -- that would make it about 86.5"

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    Thinking I am going to take off the last border and configure my own in there. You girls are the Best!!! Thank you:)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Well, what do you consider full size? I've done kings that are 95" square.
    And I make 95" square minimal quilts for my double bed!!! :)

    As MTS has said you can just change your block size to get whatever size of quilt you want. The Carpenter's Square are all square blocks (with HSTs), so it's easily to re-do the size of the quilt just by changing the block size.

    Or go right down to a mini Carpenter's Square using one inch blocks! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE
    And I make 95" square minimal quilts for my double bed!!! :)
    It's all about the overhang. A very personal preference. :mrgreen:

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    I would just leave the outside border off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE
    And I make 95" square minimal quilts for my double bed!!! :)
    It's all about the overhang. A very personal preference. :mrgreen:
    Exactly!!! and how much you want for tucking around the pillows or not.

    I was just wanting to show how nothing is standard!! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE
    Exactly!!! and how much you want for tucking around the pillows or not.
    Ah, yes, the tuck. Or, also for consideration, do the pillows go over or under the quilt?
    These are deep, deep questions. :mrgreen:

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    Great quilt

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    i would count how many squares (or hst's) going across the main part of the quilt and see what you get. then see how much smaller you need to make those to fit a full size bed top. then go from there. should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnajean
    I would just leave off or make the outer border smaller.
    This looks like the simplest way

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE
    Exactly!!! and how much you want for tucking around the pillows or not.
    Ah, yes, the tuck. Or, also for consideration, do the pillows go over or under the quilt?
    These are deep, deep questions. :mrgreen:
    OK ... I'll toss in another consideration! .... If the bed has a footboard and you're tucking the quilt in at the end (says she with the antique double bed with footboard who also tucks around the pillows and thus why she needs a king size quilt for a small bed!!!)


    And too ... how high is the bed off the floor, depth of mattress etc. affects it all!! :)

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    And also -- who is sharing the bed! I like to have huge blankets so that by morning I may have a corner left after hubby has wrapped himself up like a burrito!

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    See, this is what happens when I'm on hold FOREVER!

    I was right. The blocks in your friend's quilt (regardless of what size you call it) are 6" finished.

    The two plain white borders (on each side of the outside triangle border) are each 3" finished. So always half the size of whatever your block size will be. That comes out to exactly 96" square.

    Here are some measurements if you were to adjust the finished block size:

    5.5" = 88" x 88"
    5" = 80" x 80"
    4.5" = 72"x72"
    4" = 64"x64"

    Just multiply the block size x 16 and you'll get your measurements.

    As you can see, the blocks are either HST or plain, with the exception of the middle block on each side of the triangle border.

    I would definitely adjust the block size if I were making it for a smaller bed. Just leaving a border or two off doesn't scale it down, and it will be quite overpowering with the same size image on a smaller bed. JMHO.

    You'll have to decide about the other issues - tucking, pillow, platform or bedposts, additional borders - yourself. ;-)

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    See, this is what happens when I'm on hold FOREVER!

    I was right. The blocks in your friend's quilt (regardless of what size you call it) are 6" finished.

    The two plain white borders (on each side of the outside triangle border) are each 3" finished. So always half the size of whatever your block size will be. That comes out to exactly 96" square.

    Here are some measurements if you were to adjust the finished block size:

    5.5" = 88" x 88"
    5" = 80" x 80"
    4.5" = 72"x72"
    4" = 64"x64"

    Just multiply the block size x 16 and you'll get your measurements.

    As you can see, the blocks are either HST or plain, with the exception of the middle block on each side of the triangle border.

    I would definitely adjust the block size if I were making it for a smaller bed. Just leaving a border or two off doesn't scale it down, and it will be quite overpowering with the same size image on a smaller bed. JMHO.

    You'll have to decide about the other issues - tucking, pillow, platform or bedposts, additional borders - yourself. ;-)

    Good luck!
    How kind of you to spend your "hold" time in such a productive way ...... and to share so willingly for the benefit of others!! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shnnn
    And also -- who is sharing the bed! I like to have huge blankets so that by morning I may have a corner left after hubby has wrapped himself up like a burrito!
    Priceless!! ...... better still, make your own quilt!! :lol:
    Or maybe you should make a two section one ... kind of like sleeping bags joined together!! :lol: :lol:

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    I am beginning to thing that when it comes to "quilting" - there is no such thing as a "simple answer"

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    Beautiful, yes, leave off the last row or just cut the size of the square down. Say a 5 1/2 to a 5 and go from there. Once you are sewing them together, they will be 4 1/2 , try that like on a pillow to check it out. Either way a beautiful quilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE
    Exactly!!! and how much you want for tucking around the pillows or not.
    Ah, yes, the tuck. Or, also for consideration, do the pillows go over or under the quilt?
    These are deep, deep questions. :mrgreen:
    LOL...i'm a well of 'deep'...cheese, lol! :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by shnnn
    And also -- who is sharing the bed! I like to have huge blankets so that by morning I may have a corner left after hubby has wrapped himself up like a burrito!
    doggone! :lol:
    I have just the opposite situation,...dh pushes/layers blankets on me, bc he doesn't want them.
    Guess who went "meno." this past year? :oops: :oops: :oops:
    ...and we've been in a heat wave.
    me - twice as much!
    I'm going to keep reading as math is my nemesis and I was hoping somebody would type magic on these pages for upsizing and downsizing these tortillas! ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    See, this is what happens when I'm on hold FOREVER!

    I was right. The blocks in your friend's quilt (regardless of what size you call it) are 6" finished.

    The two plain white borders (on each side of the outside triangle border) are each 3" finished. So always half the size of whatever your block size will be. That comes out to exactly 96" square.

    Here are some measurements if you were to adjust the finished block size:

    5.5" = 88" x 88"
    5" = 80" x 80"
    4.5" = 72"x72"
    4" = 64"x64"

    Just multiply the block size x 16 and you'll get your measurements.

    As you can see, the blocks are either HST or plain, with the exception of the middle block on each side of the triangle border.

    I would definitely adjust the block size if I were making it for a smaller bed. Just leaving a border or two off doesn't scale it down, and it will be quite overpowering with the same size image on a smaller bed. JMHO.

    You'll have to decide about the other issues - tucking, pillow, platform or bedposts, additional borders - yourself. ;-)

    Good luck!
    Yessss!!! and here it is!
    I bow to your "math-i-ness"! woo hoo!
    I agree, a nice pattern/block has to be reduced or the look is overpowering.
    I like old quilts, but some of them had chunky sized blocks that aren't that appealing to me in those sizes.
    My mom gave me many older patterns and I kept them hoping to figure out how to re-size them. woo hoo! thanks :D
    So I can take a six inch block to a copier machine and reduce and then multiply the finished size to make sure that when multiplied it will come out the size I want?
    Doesn't seem so daunting a task this way. niiiice! :XD:
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    I love the quilt. What a wonderful pattern

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mousie
    So I can take a six inch block to a copier machine and reduce and then multiply the finished size to make sure that when multiplied it will come out the size I want?
    Well, you know, you gotta think about this and that. Maybe.

    It really depends on what kind of block it is.

    In this case, we're dealing with a HST block. Easy. There are a gazillion ways to make HST blocks. As I wrote in my first post on this thread, I prefer the "start with oversize squares, make HST, and trim down to unfinished size" method.

    So I would take the finished size, add 1.25+ inches and make the HST, then trim. Of course, depending on your color plan, you have to first figure out how many of each color combo you need.

    So there's really nothing to reduce on a copier in this case.

    If you're not mathematically inclined, or even if you are, I wouldn't reduce a block into unmeasurable pieces - those that can't easily be cut with a ruler. Unless you intend to do the whole thing with templates. Shoot me, please, if I ever say I'm going to do that. ;-) (Could do it with PP, but that's a whole other issue.)

    For instance, if you have a 9" nine-patch block, and decide you want to work with 7" blocks instead (because you want 70" across your quilt), that's just going to create a whole bunch of unhappiness. However, making the blocks 7.5" instead, one less block, and adjusting the border widths would be a much happier and satisfying experience.

    Still, I always prefer to work out the math rather than reducing it on a machine.

    You just always have to figure out the grid of the block and the quilt. As in this quilt, it was easy to count across to see there were the equivalent of 16 units - 96"/16 blocks = 6" blocks.

    It's really easy math - regardless of all the "I don't have a masters in theoretical mathematics so I can't figure this out" doomsayers.

    If all else fails, find a bunch of 6th graders. They'll be able to help. ;-)

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