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Old 01-12-2011, 10:22 AM
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Just one thing: it's "joules."

I always unplug mine. It cost too much to risk.
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scowlkat
.......... Where I live, the power is supplied by some little hamsters on exercise wheels and when they take a break, usually once or twice a day, our power flickers or goes out just long enough to have to reset all the clocks!

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ME TOO!!!!! its horrible. and yes I have mine on the same type hubby has on his computers.. Why would my sewing machines deserve any less than his computers?? Id rather bite the bullet then take the hit..
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:45 AM
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I guess I had best be off to get me a surge protector. I also have a 6600 & 11000 and never thought about unplugging them when not in use. My computer is protected and it's cost was less than my 11000 - oh my what was I thinking! Thanks so much for sharing, and all the awesome information. Love this board.
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:58 AM
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My surge protector on the computer took a hit from a surge last year and a newone for the computer cost about $100. Well worth the money. I also got another one that wasn't with backup for the sewing machines. Figured if it fried the one, it probably did something to the other. BTW, my sewing machines were not plugged in at the time.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:06 AM
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I always unplug! And like some if the rest of you, my machines are worth way more than my computers. I really appreciate this topic. Someone wanna make it even easier and just tell me exactly which one I should buy? I went to look and it was mind boggling-like the detergent aisle. Remember when it was just Cheer, All, and Tide? Crest, Colgate, and Aquafresh was new!? Sometimes too much choice is overwhelming.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by so-sew
Crashnquilt, you are a wealth of valuable information. Thank you.
I completely agree, I have been an IT consultant, besides being a Chef for many years :roll: and Surge protectors work to a point. Simply they "iron/level out" the power that comes in your home, which is not stable because it is "AC" meaning Alternating current.

Surge Protectors WILL NOT protect any of your equipment against lightening strikes and the like and just turning off an electrical item does not protect you either. Sorry Ladies but to be safe you really must, before going to bed, going away for any length of time or in the event of a storm UNPLUG ALL ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES, where possible. I know you can't do that with wired in ones, like a cooker and you can't do it with freezers/fridges but it really is important to do it with TVs; PCs and your precious sewing machines. And again I agree with Crashnquilt, don't plug your Iron into a surge protector there is no point anyway.

Sorry to go on but I have seen some terrible results caused just by not understanding how these things work.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Maia B
I always unplug! And like some if the rest of you, my machines are worth way more than my computers. I really appreciate this topic. Someone wanna make it even easier and just tell me exactly which one I should buy? I went to look and it was mind boggling-like the detergent aisle. Remember when it was just Cheer, All, and Tide? Crest, Colgate, and Aquafresh was new!? Sometimes too much choice is overwhelming.
I don't know the makes where you are so go to a proper electrical shop and ask their advice, or do a Google and buy the best that you can buy, as you said your machines are worth it.
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crashnquilt
Surge protectors protects the items plugged into it by absorbing the electrical surge, especially when your power goes out and then comes right back on. They are rated by the amount of surge they can absorb that is why you have various "joles" (pronounced jewels) The USUALLY have some type of insurance with them. This will be printed on the box. Not all power surges will trip your electric breakers. They also help protect from LOW AMP DRAWS.

A low amp draw is when your power "dims" down when something comes on and then returns to normal. Your surge protector will "store" some energy so when the power goes down your items will remain the same. Electronic items are damaged more from a low amp draw than a power surge.

When using a surge protector, the items that require more power should be plugged in nearest the power source, where the power cord comes into the protector. Be watchful of WHAT is plugged into the protector. If you have a sewing machine plugged into the protector, don't plug your iron into the same strip. Irons are power hungry items just look at the wattage of the iron. Irons are usually 1000 watts and up. Usually when the iron kicks on to heat, power to the other items is compromised. This can cause damage to circuit boards in other items. Also, because of the wattage of an iron, it is better to be plugged directly into the wall and preferably into another socket than the protector.

It is also a good idea to replace the surge protector every 12 to 18 months. They do wear down. There are constant surge and low amp draws in electricity. These may not be enough to trip your breakers but can be enough to damage other things not protected. Good example of this fact is a light bulb.

Since we are on this subject, please review your home owners or content insurance. The insurance with the protector is not much so don't depend on that. Talk to your insurance agent. Most insurance policies put a "cap" on the amount to be paid for certain items. Today sewing machines go into several thousand dollars but your insurance policy may only pay $150 because of the "cap". You may be thinking you don't want to pay out more money for insurance but believe me when I say it is money well spent. You may say you have "replacement insurance" which is great but they still have a "cap" on payout! Whenever you buy additional equipment be sure to talk to your insurance carrier to make sure it will be covered as well.
I agree with all said above.

If you talk to someone "in the know" they will tell you the same thing. The strips may "appear" to still work well, but when the time comes that you really need it to work and it doesn't? The damage will cost you more than the replacement strip would have :wink:

The cheaper strips are a convenience for lamps, and other inexpensive items, Not for your expensive electronics.

All in all, it is better to unplug your electronics during storms, AND place the plugs a ways away from your outlets too. Use the strips for unexpected surges/power downs :D:D:D
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Originally Posted by QultingaddictUK
I completely agree, I have been an IT consultant, besides being a Chef for many years and Surge protectors work to a point. Simply they "iron/level out" the power that comes in your home, which is not stable because it is "AC" meaning Alternating current.

Surge Protectors WILL NOT protect any of your equipment against lightening strikes and the like and just turning off an electrical item does not protect you either.
Well as an electrical engineer who even designed this stuff, any protector that does not even protect from lightning is scam. We routinely earth direct lightning strikes without damage. Your telco CO (that computer inside the switching center) suffers typically 100 surges with each thunderstorm. How often is your entire town without phone service for four days? Never? Because less expensive protector are used everywhere in the world. Use technology that was even well understood 100 years ago.

Too many myths have been posted to reply. Some have already been address in
"I didn't realize I was not totally protecting my machine" and "here" and
"here" and "here".

Protection is always about where energy dissipates. Surge protectors are sold like Listerine, cold remedies, Dannon Yogurt, and miracle health foods. They do nothing. Hype subjective solutions that so many automatically believe.

Those posts ask damning questions. For example, how does that magic box stop what three kilometers of sky could not? It doesn't. Read its specs. It does not even claim protection from each type of surge. It is called a surge protector. Its specs claim no protection. But those more easily deceived will automatically assume it does surge protection. Instead view those scary pictures.

Meanwhile, an informed homeowner earths one 'whole house' protector from other more responsible companies. Surge protection means lightning strikes incoming wires. And nobody knows a surge even existed. Even the protector is unharmed. All surges, major and trivial, are made irrelevant IF energy dissipates harmlessly outside the building.

A bottom line is simple because it also identifies ineffective protectors. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:19 PM
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Strips are fine for small items. However, I have my Janome 10000, my computer setup, not incl printers, each on its own UPS. With our current in the eastern USA so unreliable, it "smooths" the current so you have a steady current. Brownouts killed my last Janome and my laptop computer. Brownouts or dimming can create more problems and fires according to my husband the Electro-Engineer than actual hits. UPS, or Battery Backups when you buy them on sale, are a better investment than strips which only absorb overages, surges.
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