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    I think that when someone buys something, it is theirs to do what they want to with it. If the designer doesn't want people making and selling things from thier pattern, then I think they are cutting their own throats because I buy most of my patterns because I saw something that someoneelse made. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scissor Queen View Post
    You shouldn't do anything. To start with a designer does not have the right to say what can and can't be done with someone else's work. No matter what they might try and tell you there is nothing in any law that says they can maintain control over someone else's work. Unless that was a stolen quilt actually made by the designer then you shouldn't do anything.
    I agree 100%. The designer may say on the pattern that you can't sell the PATTERN -- but not what you do with it.
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    Nothing!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat M. View Post
    I contacted a designer when I noticed her design being used as someone else's design. She wrote me back and thanked me, apparently the person was stealing her designs and selling the product. The newspaper had taken a picture of the item and I saw it.
    I believe claiming someone else's design as your own is definitely infringement on copyright. You cannot claim to have created the design. You can, however, use the pattern to make and display or sell a quilt---you just can't claim it as your own original design.

    Why do quilt designers sell their patterns if they don't want anyone to make the quilt?

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    I made a quilt and thought I was really smart to come up with the design. Well what should I see later the same quilt . I dont know if they made it like me. I did a short cut. lol I did not sell it but If I wanted to I would. How can someone do a pattern of a quilt that was made in 1800 and all of a sudden it belongs to them and we cant make it and sell it? As my grandmother would say " Hogwash". Now if it's a new design of something I do try and be respectful of that, But I think it is taken a little to far. If I pay for the pattern . Then I should be able to use it for whatever.

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    I agree with the answers about this. If this is a published design there is no way the designer can tell you what to do with it.
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    i believe you can't sell the pattern has nothing to do with your quilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGi View Post
    Why, oh why, is this still being talked about? This subject has been beaten to death; please, let a sleeping dog stay that way. Thank you. GiGi
    Because there are always new people reading the items on this board, or there are new quilters reading. Have a heart!

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    I agree totally--I have too many problems of my own to run around worrying about what other people are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermom View Post
    MYOB. you don't have the facts and as others have noted, the designers can state whatever they want but they cannot control what you make with the pattern

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    really most of this is a bunch of garbage and it all started by an article in McCalls quilting before then I subscribed to every quilt magazine out there since then I get no quilt magazines do not enter or go to quilt shows so I don't worry about it there are so many free patterns on the internet there is no need to even buy one I could not understand why that woman was wanting her patterns in a magazine then coming back that if you made a quilt using one they could not even hang in the local library when people quits buying their patterns then they will change their minds personally if I designed a pattern I would be proud to see someone using it I would know it was liked

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    have been reading a similiar situation (copyright/selling) on another site recently....boy it sure can be complicated. I did learn from reading some of the posts there though, that indeed there are several (thankfully very few) "designers" who "forbid" selling of their designs.........and I understand that Disney is notorious for prosecuting for using their fabrics for items to be sold..........Just thought I would throw that into the mix. As far as the one seen for sale....I, like you, would have just walked by too.

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    It is all very confusing to me. What is keeping me from copying someone's pattern, renaming it and selling it? I see so many quilt patterns that are "recycled" with a different fabric and being sold and a "new? design.

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    This is my opinion only and is not intended to offend anyone, but discussing and re-discussing the copyright issue is like beating a dead horse.

    I agree with Tartan. Why should we, as quilters, waste our time policing what other people do with patterns, etc. I don't have enough time for my as own quilting as it is, so I don't bother with trying to police what other quilters are doing. However, making and selling items with copyright fabric, i.e., disney, collegiate, is a different issue than making a quilt with your fabric from a known designer's pattern. Let it drop people and get on with your own quilting.

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    I just don't understand as maryellen2 ask a question that I have ask may times there is never an answer the subject just gets changed but why oh why can someone take Bethany Reynolds pattern stack and whack and rename it and sell it under another name one block wonder and that is not the only one there are dozens and I think if we could only have an explanation would clear it up for all of us we keep hearing how unlawful for us as quiltmakers but why do we see all of these spin offs would love an explanation thank you

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    Perhaps that quilter contacted the designer and asked permission? As a quilt shop owner, I have sold samples made from patterns, and still do...I am not/was not mass-producing and no longer needed them. I have told many designers that when purchasing patterns direct and have never had an issue. I also wholeheartedly agree with Tartan...
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    I think if you apply this to all crafts across the board... You would no longer be able to have any craft fairs or sale of any kind. No handmade purses, pillows, or any birdhouses that we create from patterns from any source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycquilter View Post
    you see a quilt for sale at a craft show and you happen to know that the designer has stated, on the pattern, that the quilt cannot be sold? I saw this and just didn't know what to do so I did nothing. But, obviously, I still wonder what I should have done?

    May I ask why YOU feel the need to do anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tartan View Post
    I refuse to be the Quilt Police. I hate the way quilting is going with lawsuits and copyright fights.

    Thank you! My response was not that kind!
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    One more comment-------------just how ORIGINAL can any quilt design be? We deal with geometric shapes that have existed since God created the universe. Most "new" designs I've seen are old traditional blocks augmented with even more old traditional blocks. Sometimes in new fabrics, some times in new colors, sometimes in new sizes.
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    I would not do anything at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie View Post
    Thank you! My response was not that kind!
    no, it really wasn't. And since you asked, I will tell you. I am trained as a scientist/clinician and had to conduct then write up original research to obtain my doctorate. As almost anyone in any research area can tell you, plagiarism is really a major issue. Given that you "publish or perish" if you are in research, your very livelihood depends on avoiding plagiarizing anyone or having anyone plagiarize your work. So, I'm sensitive to that. Plus, it was applique and original, not a simple nine-patch, as you intimated. And I love this woman's work and learned her technique in class. So, right or wrong, I feel like she's a personal friend and am at least psychically watching out for her. Third, I was raised by a true, evil sociopath and as a result, I am overly super-ego bound, so that is why I think of these things. I worry about everyone in a psychological attempt to undo the evil my father strewed liberally.

    And, to end it, I do not understand why some responses seem so angry and others mean. I was taught, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. If you are tired of this subject, you had the choice not to open the topic. Walk on by, or as several said (and I heard as hurtful though they may not have been intended as such), MYOB.

    now, I'll probably have incited a war. I'm sorry. Can I blame it on power surges? and stress? I really do like this site and try to respect everybody's point of view.

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    I don't know many quilters who buy patterns and follow them to the letter. IF I buy a pattern (which is rare) there are always changes I want to make in the design. I never make 2 quilts alike and never buy a pattern that limits what I can do with it. Quilters are creative people who use patterns for inspiration--not as something written in stone that must be followed!

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    this subject has been discussed over and over WHO CARES?

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    I like your response ghostrider...

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    I do believe that that statement implies that you cannot resell the pattern.......not the quilt made from it.

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