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    Excellent job bringing the machine back to life. Mine wasn't as dirty but still needed a good cleaning and oiling. I still need a belt though. I have about fourteen machines and this newest acquisition is among my favorites. It really looks neat with all the levers and such. Mine is also two-tone. Good to hear another person who appreciates good engineering and interesting machines. Have fun.

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    Very good job. So the grease pot is behind the bobbin case? I am going to get one of these 319's shortly and am glad you showed a picture about the grease pot. I need to learn all I can Thanks for the Great pictures. bannie :thumbup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bannie
    Very good job. So the grease pot is behind the bobbin case? I am going to get one of these 319's shortly and am glad you showed a picture about the grease pot. I need to learn all I can Thanks for the Great pictures. bannie :thumbup:
    I'm not really sure about the grease pot, I'll have to check mine. But the 319W is a really interesting machine. Keep it clean and well lubricated and you should be very happy. Send some pix if you like.

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    Thanks How often would the cleated belt wear out? Is that a something that rarely happens? bannie

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    It is to keep the gears lubricated. The pot just had a couple screws holding it on. I pulled them off and cleaned the grease out with a screw driver end - then I painted it with the kerosene and turned it a bit to wash it out good inside where I can't see. Lots of goo came out of there. I painted until it ran clean again. I'll pack it full of grease when I get that far. You all have to stay tuned in a week or two for part 2 of the continuing saga of 'Mr Ed the 319w before his time sewing machine'. I am fascinated by the engineering on the older zig zag machines. Each one is unique isn't it? I'm pretty sure I need to do something to the stitch length regulator - it doesn't travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bannie
    Thanks How often would the cleated belt wear out? Is that a something that rarely happens? bannie
    I'm crossing my fingers that it NEVER happens Candice says it does. She posted earlier it was a b*tch to replace. You probably have to have the stars align up just so and hold your mouth a certain way and pray a whole bunch as you go. I sure don't want anything to get on it. The rubber belt not so much. I'm toying with the idea of treadling this one it does have a very nice table though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bannie
    Thanks How often would the cleated belt wear out? Is that a something that rarely happens? bannie
    I hope it doesn't wear out too quickly. It not something I relish looking for. But as for the rest of the workings just make sure you keep everything nicely lubricated and moist and you should be very happy.

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    I haven't got it yet so if all is well and works for a while I will cross that bridge when I get there. Want be the first time I bought something I had to fix. LOL If it does break does anyone know where to get a replacement? I read where you could not buy them anymore. Is that so? bannie

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    It is to keep the gears lubricated. The pot just had a couple screws holding it on. I pulled them off and cleaned the grease out with a screw driver end - then I painted it with the kerosene and turned it a bit to wash it out good inside where I can't see. Lots of goo came out of there. I painted until it ran clean again. I'll pack it full of grease when I get that far. You all have to stay tuned in a week or two for part 2 of the continuing saga of 'Mr Ed the 319w before his time sewing machine'. I am fascinated by the engineering on the older zig zag machines. Each one is unique isn't it? I'm pretty sure I need to do something to the stitch length regulator - it doesn't travel.
    Is this about what a greece pot is for? Not heard of that before and now am concerned if I've cleaned my new vintage machines enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Quote Originally Posted by bannie
    Thanks How often would the cleated belt wear out? Is that a something that rarely happens? bannie
    I'm crossing my fingers that it NEVER happens Candice says it does. She posted earlier it was a b*tch to replace. You probably have to have the stars align up just so and hold your mouth a certain way and pray a whole bunch as you go. I sure don't want anything to get on it. The rubber belt not so much. I'm toying with the idea of treadling this one it does have a very nice table though.
    Actually, mine didn't wear out. I've got the original one. I made the stupid mistake of removing the gear it was on to try and clean the gear. Getting it back on was not fun at all! I don't recommend it:>

    As for your stitch length regulator..lift it up and look inside the machine. Is the bar bent? When I was refurbishing my black 319, I noticed that my stitch length was really small and I couldn't get the 6 to 8 stitches per inch (basting length) even though my stitch length knob was all the way down. I fussed and kept playing with the feed dogs, I retimed it...nothing. Finally, I had an aha moment and looked up inside the machine. Somewhere in its travels it got bumped very hard and the bar was actually bent. I gently(and crossed my fingers not knowing if it would snap), hammered the bar upwards lightly a few times and straightened out the bar. This allowed it to lower all the way down to the 6-8 inch level and it's fixed now:> I think I like refurbishing these machines because they're big puzzle boxes!

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    LOL!.....I thought your new girl is like a lot of us, prettier from the front than from the back or bottom! She is really cleaning up nicely as all the gunk comes off. Encouraging to see what is hiding under all that brown. She will be real "purdy" when finished. Bet you will love her too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Quote Originally Posted by bannie
    Thanks How often would the cleated belt wear out? Is that a something that rarely happens? bannie
    I'm crossing my fingers that it NEVER happens Candice says it does. She posted earlier it was a b*tch to replace. You probably have to have the stars align up just so and hold your mouth a certain way and pray a whole bunch as you go. I sure don't want anything to get on it. The rubber belt not so much. I'm toying with the idea of treadling this one it does have a very nice table though.
    Actually, mine didn't wear out. I've got the original one. I made the stupid mistake of removing the gear it was on to try and clean the gear. Getting it back on was not fun at all! I don't recommend it:>

    As for your stitch length regulator..lift it up and look inside the machine. Is the bar bent? When I was refurbishing my black 319, I noticed that my stitch length was really small and I couldn't get the 6 to 8 stitches per inch (basting length) even though my stitch length knob was all the way down. I fussed and kept playing with the feed dogs, I retimed it...nothing. Finally, I had an aha moment and looked up inside the machine. Somewhere in its travels it got bumped very hard and the bar was actually bent. I gently(and crossed my fingers not knowing if it would snap), hammered the bar upwards lightly a few times and straightened out the bar. This allowed it to lower all the way down to the 6-8 inch level and it's fixed now:> I think I like refurbishing these machines because they're big puzzle boxes!
    For sure I will keep this in mind! Thanks. Yeah - I'm into the big puzzle boxes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jz
    Excellent job bringing the machine back to life. Mine wasn't as dirty but still needed a good cleaning and oiling. I still need a belt though. I have about fourteen machines and this newest acquisition is among my favorites. It really looks neat with all the levers and such. Mine is also two-tone. Good to hear another person who appreciates good engineering and interesting machines. Have fun.
    Which belt do you need - inside or out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bannie
    I haven't got it yet so if all is well and works for a while I will cross that bridge when I get there. Want be the first time I bought something I had to fix. LOL If it does break does anyone know where to get a replacement? I read where you could not buy them anymore. Is that so? bannie
    I have a Kenmore with a belt like that - I wonder if you could rob one off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    I still have a lot to do. I didn't even look at the tension or the stitch knob thingy. The black disks on the top turn but they don't make it zig or zag. I'm thinking about using a bit of heat from the hair dryer to see if it will move. I'm reluctant to use any penetrating oil because everything is painted. I didn't take an old tooth brush along so couldn't scrub corners very well. The stitch length doesn't seem to budge. The motor will be torn down and cleaned. Then DH promises to rewire the whole mess. At least the cabinet is pretty...
    DH is ok but sore from the wasp bite.
    You poor old lady looks like she spent the first part of her life in a home that had oil heat. I lived in a place with oil heat for a while and everything I had ended up looking like this. She's looking good now.

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    Wow, you have done a great job with her.

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    NOTE OF CAUTION - The 319 is a swing needle and take special needles regualr needles will chip and chunk the bobbin carrier

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    Quote Originally Posted by madamekelly
    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    I still have a lot to do. I didn't even look at the tension or the stitch knob thingy. The black disks on the top turn but they don't make it zig or zag. I'm thinking about using a bit of heat from the hair dryer to see if it will move. I'm reluctant to use any penetrating oil because everything is painted. I didn't take an old tooth brush along so couldn't scrub corners very well. The stitch length doesn't seem to budge. The motor will be torn down and cleaned. Then DH promises to rewire the whole mess. At least the cabinet is pretty...
    DH is ok but sore from the wasp bite.
    You poor old lady looks like she spent the first part of her life in a home that had oil heat. I lived in a place with oil heat for a while and everything I had ended up looking like this. She's looking good now.
    You could be right about the oil heat. It seems odd that most of it was on the back. The machine was in the cabinet face down. The cabinet is clean - very lovely cabinet. We named him Mr. Ed. Short for Educational or Edsel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
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    Excellent job bringing the machine back to life. Mine wasn't as dirty but still needed a good cleaning and oiling. I still need a belt though. I have about fourteen machines and this newest acquisition is among my favorites. It really looks neat with all the levers and such. Mine is also two-tone. Good to hear another person who appreciates good engineering and interesting machines. Have fun.
    Which belt do you need - inside or out?
    The outside belt. It was cracked and split.

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    mine split up too. Mr. Ed will for sure need a belt.

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    I'm not too worried about that though since other machines' belts probably can fit since it has an adjustable nut for the bracket that holds the motor. Thank goodness for nuts that you can move with your own hands.

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    Nice job so far. Nice old machine, you will get lots and lots of use out of her.

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    Miriam your machine is cleaning up nicely. Great jop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hershery
    Miriam your machine is cleaning up nicely. Great jop.
    This machine has a long ways to go. The out side is nearly done. The works of it will be part 2 and another story. So far, I know it doesn't zig zag. The tension has not been checked. Then there is the electric unless I put it on a treadle.

    I found the bobbin case. It was in the box with the accessories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Quote Originally Posted by hershery
    Miriam your machine is cleaning up nicely. Great jop.
    This machine has a long ways to go. The out side is nearly done. The works of it will be part 2 and another story. So far, I know it doesn't zig zag. The tension has not been checked. Then there is the electric unless I put it on a treadle.

    I found the bobbin case. It was in the box with the accessories.
    You should check the electrical connections before considering changing it to a treadle operated machine. That can be a little strenuous on the legs. Sometimes the wires have come undone and/or the wire(s) can be broken. The motors themselves are pretty simple electrical motors and usually don't go bad. Also check all junctions where there can be clogs of some sort like gummy grease or thread etc. And don't force the motor to run while it may be clogged it can burn out like any other electrical motor. Good luck.

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