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Old 02-12-2026, 03:15 PM
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While visiting my cousin in TN I noticed she had a antique sewing machine. I asked if we could open and have a look and she said sure. As I was wooing over the machine cousin says it belonged to my paternal grandmother, Momma Bill. I jumped up and down and "Oh I want it" (I was only kidding thinking there was no way my cousin would part with it) but to my astonishment she "Ok you can have it", and I about feel over. We were on vacation and had several other stops to make so we agreed to stop back by when we were headed home.

I've done a little research and I believe it to be a 1909 machine made from a patent Singer bought from another company (can't remember the name of the company). If anyone has more information on this model I would love to hear about it.
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Originally Posted by Luna Tique
... If anyone has more information on this model I would love to hear about it.
I have a hard time understanding the timeline and the different models to say nothing of serial numbers. I did find a few link for your perusal.
  1. Manual for 9W which was originally on Needlebar which is no longer on line https://ismacs.net/needlebar/main/ma...r9w/index.html
  2. A good post about 9W machines including info about needles and hand wheel direction Singer 9W dating
  3. Some info regarding 9W https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/s...nes/models/9w/
  4. More info regarding 9w https://tallysew.com/sewing-machines...nes/singer-9w/
  5. A thread about W&W9 & 9W serial numbers. Wheeler & Wilson9/Singer 9W Serials

From that last one based on some of the serial numbers, it doesn't make sense to me, as it appears that some are just numbers and then a W prefix number and then possibly just numbers, again.


I didn't look for a Wheeler & Wilson 9 manual, but I know there are some available for free. I think the only difference would be the spool pin. I have a Junker and Ruh machine and I know the Wheeler & Wilson 9 manual helped me thread it.

Have fun with your new acquisition.

ETA - There were different bobbins from what I read in the above links. Which does yours have and were there needles with it?

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I didn't look for a Wheeler & Wilson 9 manual, but I know there are some available for free. I think the only difference would be the spool pin. I have a Junker and Ruh machine and I know the Wheeler & Wilson 9 manual helped me thread it.


Have fun with your new acquisition.


ETA - There were different bobbins from what I read in the above links. Which does yours have and were there needles with it?

Thank you for the information. I had already seen a few of the links you posted and I am looking forward to reviewing the new ones. I have the original manual for using attachments that Momma Bill had but it is so old and so brittle I'm afraid to open it up to often. and every time I do another piece of brittle paper falls off. Luckily there was one bobbin and one needle in the machine. The bobbin is quite similar to the ones we use today.


The machine does work, but I need to find someone that works on antique machines just to get it checked over and adjusted properly.
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Luna,
You can easily service it yourself. Cleaning and servicing the machine is easy. You just have to be very gentle with the decals. There is plenty information around, so I don't want to repeat it here, especially while typing with one finger on a tablet.
where are you located? I am in East Tennessee.
PS These machines rarely require 'Ajusting'
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Luna,
You can easily service it yourself. Cleaning and servicing the machine is easy. You just have to be very gentle with the decals. There is plenty information around, so I don't want to repeat it here, especially while typing with one finger on a tablet.
where are you located? I am in East Tennessee.
PS These machines rarely require 'Ajusting'
Hi Farmhousesewer, thanks for the vote of confidence on my ability to service my machine, but I'm afraid what I know about servicing a sewing machine you could put in a thimble and still have room for your finger. I'm in the north Dallas, TX area, but my family that had the machine is in Davidson and Rutherford counties, and I was raised in Dickson county.
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Originally Posted by Luna Tique
... I have the original manual for using attachments that Momma Bill had but it is so old and so brittle I'm afraid to open it up to often. and every time I do another piece of brittle paper falls off. Luckily there was one bobbin and one needle in the machine. The bobbin is quite similar to the ones we use today.
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Here are some links for Wheeler & Wilson attachment manuals pdfs
https://archive.org/details/Form21.S...rials/mode/1up
https://ia802306.us.archive.org/24/i...orm41_text.pdf
https://ismacs.net/wheelerandwilson/...ory-manual.pdf
Sounds like you can use Featherweight Bobbins, but you can't use the Singer 9W bobbin in a Featherweight.
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It would be a pain to take it to a shop. However, I've had luck with Mr. Sewing Machine on Harry Hines. The last couple of times I've been there, the guy has not been there. The women don't seem to know much. He worked for the old man who had the shop forever.
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It would be a pain to take it to a shop. However, I've had luck with Mr. Sewing Machine on Harry Hines. The last couple of times I've been there, the guy has not been there. The women don't seem to know much. He worked for the old man who had the shop forever.
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I have used Mr. Sewing Machine several times over the years and was always able to make an appointment and deliver the machine a day or two before the appointment date, but when I called them about the 1909 as well as my other 2 machines I was told I would need to bring the machines in and leave them for up to 3 months. That was unacceptable since I have no desire to be without any of my machines for up to 3 months. I think I would go batty without them, and besides I'd have nothing left to do but housework and I can't let that happen.

I haven't been able to find anyone else in the area that does that type of work. Do you have another source that you use? If so I would love to have their contact info.
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Only certain Singer 9Ws take the Singer Featherweight/ 301 bobbins. Others take the W&W D9 bagel bobbins.

Luna, any chance you can join us for the Texarkana TOGA (Treadle on Gathering and Academy) April 9-11 and bring your Treadle? Looks like it is only 3 hours from Dallas. We will be there. I will service your machine for you.

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Originally Posted by Farmhousesewer
Only certain Singer 9Ws take the Singer Featherweight/ 301 bobbins. Others take the W&W D9 bagel bobbins.

Luna, any chance you can join us for the Texarkana TOGA (Treadle on Gathering and Academy) April 9-11 and bring your Treadle? Looks like it is only 3 hours from Dallas. We will be there. I will service your machine for you.

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Hello Maria, Thanks for the invite to the TOGA, but I doubt I will be able to attend. Moving the machine around requires one son-in-law and a grandchild or two. Put if I can round up the crew I'll try to make it. Is the location posted somewhere on the web?

I was in your neck of the woods several years ago when my DH and I road the Tail of the Dragon motorcycle run. It's beautiful country.
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