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    Old 09-12-2010, 03:43 PM
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    Originally Posted by littlehud
    That isn't right. Contact E bay too.
    I just went to Ebay to their "Contact Us" area. I just got a list of things that sellers can't do. This one seems to address what we're questioning at the moment.

    " OnPotentially infringing items may be in violation of certain copyrights, trademarks, or other intellectual property rights. So some items are not allowed (even though they may be legal) because they often violate copyright or trademark laws. This also applies to certain types of information that appear in listings."

    This sounds a little broad to me. This buyer I got the pattern from lists a lot of things so it must be ok with everybody so I'm just going to let it go. I'll let you all know if I ever hear from the organization who puts out the magazine my pattern came from. I'm beginniing to feel uncomfortable about even discussing it anymore. Thanks for all of your help & support on the subject though.

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    Old 09-12-2010, 03:46 PM
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    Originally Posted by brighmet
    I am probably a bad person for doing this but.... Every once in awhile I go thru my stacks of magazine to clear them out. If there is a pattern I want out of the magazine I just rip it out. I then put them in a pile for a garage sale. I figure I bought the magazine and can do what I want with it. I could just pitch the rest of the magazine but there may be someone who might want one of the patterns I don't. I usually just ask 25 - 50 cents on them.
    If I tear too much out I just pitch the magazine.

    Am I a bad person??????
    Only if you present it as a complete magazine when selling them.

    If you advise your customers up front that pages have been removed, then I will think you are an honest person. If I KNOW it has pages missing, I'll look through it first and decide if I want to take it home.

    If it looks "perfect" - and I find pages missing after I get home, I tend to be a tad irritated. (I'm Scandinavian - "tad irritated" translates into "quite po'd")

    When one buys at a garage sale, it is probably wise to go with a "caveat emptor" attitude and look for flaws - and under the price sticker to see if there is a chip or ding.
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    Old 09-12-2010, 03:47 PM
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    Originally Posted by bearisgray
    No, it wasn't deceitful. The customer "didn't read the fine print" before bidding.
    You are so right. This was my fault. I usually read them all carefully but didn't in this case since I didn't really care if I got it. I will definitelly be more careful in the future. I've done a lot of Ebay for my glass collection & always read their descriptions carefully.
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    Old 09-12-2010, 03:47 PM
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    Same thing happened to me and I wrote to the seller and explained that their description of the book was not accurate. When I told them I was going to dispute it and give negative feedback, they offered to return my money, plus shipping fees. Needless to say, I got my money back. I hope you do too.
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    Old 09-12-2010, 04:00 PM
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    I used to sell a lot of patterns on E-bay. I would purchase a large lot from a wholesale company that had the House of White Birch booklets and the ones that used to be sold via mail (where you would get six patterns to put in a three-ringed binder). I started out at a very low price, usually a dollar. I had a few auctions that got up as high as $22.00 for a pattern I paid less than fifty cents for. I finally quit when a buyer won over a hundred dollars worth of patterns and then claimed that the box of patterns did not arrive, even though I paid for delivery confirmation and got confirmation that they had. She left me negative feedback because I refused to refund her money, even though I did send her more patterns if I had duplicates, even though I had paid for the delivery confirmation and could prove that they had arrived. She filed a complaint. A few months later, I noticed that she was re-selling some of the patterns she had supposedly not gotten from me. Some of the patterns were not the duplicates I sent her, so I know she did get the original box and also got about fifty dollars worth of patterns from me in the second box I sent her. Never again. That was one of the last times I sold on e-Bay.

    I had a few people who also had issues with my patterns because they were from those collections that go in the binders, even though I CLEARLY stated that the patterns where from a collection and showed the holes and the plastic templates. I bought them individually, so I didn't see anything wrong with selling them this way.
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    Old 09-12-2010, 04:25 PM
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    Originally Posted by MistyMarie
    I used to sell a lot of patterns on E-bay. I would purchase a large lot from a wholesale company that had the House of White Birch booklets and the ones that used to be sold via mail (where you would get six patterns to put in a three-ringed binder). I started out at a very low price, usually a dollar. I had a few auctions that got up as high as $22.00 for a pattern I paid less than fifty cents for. I finally quit when a buyer won over a hundred dollars worth of patterns and then claimed that the box of patterns did not arrive, even though I paid for delivery confirmation and got confirmation that they had. She left me negative feedback because I refused to refund her money, even though I did send her more patterns if I had duplicats, even though I had paid for the delivery confirmation and could prove that they had arrived. She filed a complaint. A few months later, I noticed that she was re-selling some of the patterns she had supposedly not gotten from me. Some of the patterns were not the duplicates I sent her, so I know she did get the original box and also got about fifty dollars worth of patterns from me in the second box I sent her. Never again. That was one of the last times I sold on e-Bay.
    Mistymarie, that is the saddest, most disgusting thing I ever heard. No wonder you stopped selling. That's enough to make you sick. How low can somebody go to make a $? Thank goodness most of us are honest people.
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    Old 09-12-2010, 04:35 PM
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    I ebay for an pattern too and got 2 pages torn out of an magazine! I thought how tacky is that ! Well, it was .99 but the shipping was over $1.29 and did come in a clear insert. Never again........
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    Old 09-12-2010, 07:23 PM
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    Yes, I can understand being frustrated when it costs more to ship a few pages from a magazine than the pattern itself cost.
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    Old 09-12-2010, 11:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by brighmet
    IAm I a bad person??????
    you are not a bad person. your customers are able to see what's left before they decide to buy. you aren't hiding anything so are not doing anything wrong. :-)
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    Old 09-12-2010, 11:41 PM
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    ok, folks. time to move on from this topic. the member's question has been answered.

    selling pages from magazines is legal.

    buyer should double-check the descriptions.

    if there's no mention that the patterns are pages from magazines, and you don't think you got your money's worth, then the most drastic appropriate action is a "not as described" mention in the ebay feedback.

    this topic was not intended to provide opportunities for complaints about ebay or "the ebay buy/sell experience".
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