Not to keep stirring the pot, but....
08-29-2010, 01:20 PM
#131
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Thanks for all the information.
08-29-2010, 01:50 PM
#132
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I think that if we are all worried and confused and wondering the sales of quilt books and magazines will go down... and patterns too. I am sure that is not what they are looking for as I am sure they like to have our money. I purchased a pattern recently, which I rarely do anymore, and then a few days later found a similar one in a magazine on my shelf. It is probably on the internet too! How confusing! Face it, I could happily quilt for the rest of my days on the free stuff from the internet and old books I have collected over many years.
08-29-2010, 01:55 PM
#133
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I very rarely buy patterns, magazines or books anymore because there are so many free ideas on the net. I have probably 10 years worth of work ahead of me that I could just sit locked in my room and have all I need! I get so much inspiration from this board and I typically do my own thing anyway. I don't worry about copywrites because I follow the rules in regards to pattern purchases and not sharing them with others. I second the idea of being more creative, and finding inspirations from free "stuff" on the net that can't come back and bite you later. Plus, if you think it up on your own, it's all yours. Another bonus!
08-29-2010, 01:58 PM
#134
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Let's all get creative and start designing our own cool quilts!
08-29-2010, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasGurl
Originally Posted by bearisgray
There are some patterns and designs that appear to me to be truly original.
Where things get stuck in my craw is when someone takes old stand by blocks - like 9-patch, shoo-fly, variable star, rail fence - and then claims a copyright for the pattern.
Where things get stuck in my craw is when someone takes old stand by blocks - like 9-patch, shoo-fly, variable star, rail fence - and then claims a copyright for the pattern.
Come on, these traditional blocks have been around for 150+ years ... in the public domain, to be used & enjoyed by ALL
Unless it is someone's hand-drawn, pictorial pattern or applique design, it's pretty silly to consider anything else an "original" design :roll:
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08-29-2010, 02:47 PM
#136
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Haven't read all the post yet but I did read the article. I think it was a load of crap. Just 2 pages over from article there was a quilt pattern by some gal claiming it was her orginal & was a pattern that had been many times over. Not hers. Maybe the fabric selection was hers but the pattern has been around for years. When I read the article I thought lady you don't know what you are talking about. She needed to read the copyright laws because she was totally not quoting them right.
08-29-2010, 03:03 PM
#137
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Originally Posted by fmd36
Wait until you get into machine embroidery.....copyrights up the kazoo. They monitor what is selling on ebay and craig's list and will come after you if you innocently buy a design. Luckily many are extremely generous with free designs. Buyer beware.
08-29-2010, 03:38 PM
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In 1908 the Supreme Court ruled that a copyright owner cannot place use restrictions upon their product by simply printing on it limitations absent a written contract. In 1879 the Supreme Court ruled that a copyright on a dress pattern did not extend to the end product (The Supreme Court did not rule on the validity of the copyright for the dress pattern as that issue was not before the Court).
Not one of your major pattern companies holds a registered copyright on an individual pattern for clothing. Not one of the major pattern companies posts use restrictions for their patterns on their numerous web sites (McCall’s has 13 web sites). Not one of the major pattern companies has filed a federal lawsuit that has gone to trial over the use of clothing patterns or over what is made from them. What does that tell you about the so-called right of the designer to limit your use of the pattern once it has been sold to you?
Not one of your major pattern companies holds a registered copyright on an individual pattern for clothing. Not one of the major pattern companies posts use restrictions for their patterns on their numerous web sites (McCall’s has 13 web sites). Not one of the major pattern companies has filed a federal lawsuit that has gone to trial over the use of clothing patterns or over what is made from them. What does that tell you about the so-called right of the designer to limit your use of the pattern once it has been sold to you?
08-29-2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tabberone
In 1908 the Supreme Court ruled that a copyright owner cannot place use restrictions upon their product by simply printing on it limitations absent a written contract. In 1879 the Supreme Court ruled that a copyright on a dress pattern did not extend to the end product (The Supreme Court did not rule on the validity of the copyright for the dress pattern as that issue was not before the Court).
Not one of your major pattern companies holds a registered copyright on an individual pattern for clothing. Not one of the major pattern companies posts use restrictions for their patterns on their numerous web sites (McCall’s has 13 web sites). Not one of the major pattern companies has filed a federal lawsuit that has gone to trial over the use of clothing patterns or over what is made from them. What does that tell you about the so-called right of the designer to limit your use of the pattern once it has been sold to you?
Not one of your major pattern companies holds a registered copyright on an individual pattern for clothing. Not one of the major pattern companies posts use restrictions for their patterns on their numerous web sites (McCall’s has 13 web sites). Not one of the major pattern companies has filed a federal lawsuit that has gone to trial over the use of clothing patterns or over what is made from them. What does that tell you about the so-called right of the designer to limit your use of the pattern once it has been sold to you?
08-29-2010, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Conniequilts
I don't generally weigh in on topics like this but it has been consistent and confusing.
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
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