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Thread: Anyone Ever hear of a Phoenix Sewing Machine?

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    Anyone Ever hear of a Phoenix Sewing Machine?

    I just received a neglected Phoenix Automatic Class 283 sewing machine. I've never seen one before let alone know anything about it. It came in a cabnet with all the accessories plus the book. This is really an unusual machine. The warrenty card says that it was manufactured in Bielelfeld, Germany. The bobbin case is another unusual item. How to remove the bobbin and replace it into place. I've never seen anything like it. What can any of you tell me about this machine? Has anyone owned one? I'm just curious! I don't know if it runs yet. There is one cord that looks like it might need some attention before plugging it in.

    Thank You, Claudia
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    Can you post some pictures? They'd probably help, particularly if it's a rebadge.

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    pics please??????
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    http://www.needlebar.org/main~nb/mak...rempel/br.html

    Go to part 2 of the link above. It will give you some information regarding your sewing machine.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Well here she is: I hope this uploads now. I've been having problems with this computer lately. It needs cleaning out.

    Well! It finally uploaded. Hurray.
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    Thank You Caroline S for the needlebar sight. It dated this machine as a 1954. Thank you Again, Claudia

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    http://possumjimandelizabeth.com/xht...g_phoenix.html

    Here is another link for you Claudia. I bet your sewing machine has the same very interesting bobbin case. Anticipating further pictures of the sewing machine threaded. I am sure that is interesting also.
    Sweet Caroline

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    What does the bobbin area look like? What bobbins does it take?
    Were you able to find a manual? Does it work? Is it gray or green?
    Does it just do zig zag? Does it have disks? I am ssssooooooo nosy.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    What does the bobbin area look like? What bobbins does it take?
    Were you able to find a manual? Does it work? Is it gray or green?
    Does it just do zig zag? Does it have disks? I am ssssooooooo nosy.....
    I am nosy also Miriam. I sure am fascinated by what I call the "odd balls" machines, the ones that are not commonly seen. Did you take a peak at the 2nd link I posted. Several pictures down there is a picture of the bobbin area and case. It sort of resembles the Necchi Lydia bobbin case and the way it loads. I am also thinking that it does not use disks. Perhaps if we nag Claudia long enough she will post more pictures of her German maiden.
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    That looks like an awesome machine, i hope you are able to find something out about her, good luck
    Mary

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    I just bought one!!! I can't lug it in the house - my shoulder is in bad shape and I'm not allowed to lift anything. I am waiting for DH to get home and haul it in. Mine has a manual and a box of attachments. I'll shoot a pic in a few minutes. The manual is a pamphlet - about a page all folded up. I looked at the bobbin area - pretty dirty but pretty cool - I can't wait to take a screw driver to that machine - might have to wait a bit though...
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    Ooooh Miriam. Sooo vicariously excited. Waiting for your pics.
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    Well. I do NOT have a manual. I have a sales brochure. I should shoot it, too. The machine is way cool but I haven't got it off the floor by the door where he parked it. One step at a time. ARGH. Did yours come with disks? I got 10 disks, one bobbin and some attachments and a brochure. The machine is in nice shape. The table is in wonderful shape but it is over at the shop.
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    Well, DH lifted it on to the table!!! One linty machine - not terribly dirty. I love it - this is one very nice machine!!! A lot of thought went into it. There are some quirks but - well it was the 1950's and all those fancy stitches were new. I shot some pics. I figured out a few things. WOW!!! I wish for a manual. All I got was a sales brochure. The inner workings are similar to the Singer 319. There is a cam stack with 4 settings. There are loose disks - I have no idea where they go. The whole cam stack comes off. Unlike the 319 you can only choose one setting - well so far that is what I think. It is a bit easier to set the zz on this machine though. I should put an old Elna, a 319 and this Phoenix next to each other and compare the features. Here is a pic of the sales brochure. Very good condition BTW.
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    The second pic did not post so I deleted it.
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    Ok here is a pic of the machine. Attachment 373724
    Nice green.
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    Very cool Miriam. I am just excited as you are. Your pic did not post.
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    I shot a pic of the control panel... I like control panels. Specially when they work...
    Attachment 373725
    There is a stitch length on the right - to the left of it is a little lever type thing with four markings. You push that in and it selects which disk to use. The big round thing is the width selector. The little one is the needle LRC. In back is a little lever to push when the little lever type thing is pushed and set - it has to be pushed so things will move.
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    The lever on the back: Attachment 373726
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    The cam stack is inside and when you open it up and push on the front and top you can see how it works.
    I do not know how the spare disks go yet
    That arm across the top is part of the zz works - reminds me kind of like the Singer 319.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    Very cool Miriam. I am just excited as you are. Your pic did not post.
    WHAAAAAAH
    here we go again. I can see it though...
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    Ok it looks like the pics didn't load. Sorry. I have figured some of it out - cameras and computers - not so much...
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    ​The anticipation is about killing me. WHAAAAAH
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    Miriam,

    Reduce the pics to 800x600 then email them to me and I'll post 'em for you. If you can't reduce them you'll have to send them to me one at time. My server has limits.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Miriam,

    Reduce the pics to 800x600 then email them to me and I'll post 'em for you. If you can't reduce them you'll have to send them to me one at time. My server has limits.

    Joe
    I have no clue how to reduce them. I sent them to Joe.
    I also posted pics on the vintage sewing machine shop - seems like they came up there just fine.
    Last edited by miriam; 10-31-2012 at 03:47 PM.
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    Yes, I have the manual and the cams that go with. I haven't yet tried it out as there is a wire that needs to be taped. It came in a cabnet with a knee controller. Two plug in wires. One for the knee controller, I assume, and the other for the light. Once I get that bare wire taped, I will try her out. She is also a green machine.

    The reason it took so long for me to answer this thread, my computer was so clogged with junk, I had to do some fixing on it.

    Claudia

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