bobbins for old White Rotary machine
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bobbins for old White Rotary machine
Hello fellow old machine lovers,
I have an older White Rotary machine which works like a dream. I just need some more bobbins for it.
It seems I need the model number in order to find out which bobbin is right for the machine. And all I can find on the machine is a Serial number.
I don't seem to be able to upload pictures of my machine here, but I can tell you it looks identical to the machines in the thread at this link: Older Viking Sewing Machine - Apparently Not
The only difference appears to be that my machine has a label which says White Rotary, instead of Viking. Mine is the tan color of the second machine pictured in the link. The foot pedal is identical to the one in the first picture, the hinges on the cabinet in the second picture are the same as mine. It must be the same machine, made by one company and branded by another.
The Serial number on my machine is 679 - 3209 The 679 part is in black ink and the 3209 is stamped in.
Could it be a model 679 and the 3209th machine made?
As my quest is bobbins, any help is appreciated -
what model is the machine?
what number bobbin is required?
where to buy such bobbins?
and out of curiosity, how old is the machine?
Thank you for your kindness,
Eric
I have an older White Rotary machine which works like a dream. I just need some more bobbins for it.
It seems I need the model number in order to find out which bobbin is right for the machine. And all I can find on the machine is a Serial number.
I don't seem to be able to upload pictures of my machine here, but I can tell you it looks identical to the machines in the thread at this link: Older Viking Sewing Machine - Apparently Not
The only difference appears to be that my machine has a label which says White Rotary, instead of Viking. Mine is the tan color of the second machine pictured in the link. The foot pedal is identical to the one in the first picture, the hinges on the cabinet in the second picture are the same as mine. It must be the same machine, made by one company and branded by another.
The Serial number on my machine is 679 - 3209 The 679 part is in black ink and the 3209 is stamped in.
Could it be a model 679 and the 3209th machine made?
As my quest is bobbins, any help is appreciated -
what model is the machine?
what number bobbin is required?
where to buy such bobbins?
and out of curiosity, how old is the machine?
Thank you for your kindness,
Eric
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These should fit any White Rotary: http://shop.sew-classic.com/Bobbins-...5-pack-744.htm
I have a White 77 that's probably pretty similar, White made a lot of different models with minor variations and also badged them as Kenmore, Domestic, Dressmaker, etc.
I have a White 77 that's probably pretty similar, White made a lot of different models with minor variations and also badged them as Kenmore, Domestic, Dressmaker, etc.
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That number is the model number. 679. the last four may be for options.
A picture would help - my white that is has a similar type model number - takes class 15 bobbins. Many of the post WW2 whites take that bobbin. Pre WW2 machines take something totally different.
If your machine takes the older style, it's almost certain to also take top clamp feet. If they are side clamp (like modern machines) then it's a "newer" machine and you should be able to buy bobbins that will fit at Wallmart.
This is a machine that takes the older style bobbins,
this is what the bobbin and case look like.
This two Whites take the class 15 bobbins. the green one is model 670, or something like that. But it's tag also has the same as you describe
this is model 967
A picture would help - my white that is has a similar type model number - takes class 15 bobbins. Many of the post WW2 whites take that bobbin. Pre WW2 machines take something totally different.
If your machine takes the older style, it's almost certain to also take top clamp feet. If they are side clamp (like modern machines) then it's a "newer" machine and you should be able to buy bobbins that will fit at Wallmart.
This is a machine that takes the older style bobbins,
this is what the bobbin and case look like.
This two Whites take the class 15 bobbins. the green one is model 670, or something like that. But it's tag also has the same as you describe
this is model 967
Last edited by Macybaby; 10-07-2017 at 09:32 AM.
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Farmer Eric, one of my lqs sells them in black and white, but on a cardboard bobbin. The white ones they sell look like M class bobbin. The black ones look like L size bobbins. So check with your local quilt shop (if there is one nearby). they might have them or be able to order them for you.
Here is their facebook page. Maybe you could ask them about getting some bobbins for your white machine. It's at least worth a try.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Quilting...1974910/about/
Here is their facebook page. Maybe you could ask them about getting some bobbins for your white machine. It's at least worth a try.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Quilting...1974910/about/
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Hello all three responders,
Thank you so very much for your expert and detailed replies.
I am so sorry I can't seem to post a picture here, but I think I've got the information I need from you regardless. (And my machine looks identical to the tan colored Viking in the post I linked in my first post.) Here is a link to just the picture of the machine from that post:
https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...501_163233.jpg
I have a top-clamp machine, so thus it is probably pre-WWII. I think the 744 bobbins are probably the right ones. Thank you for the link, Rocsew.
The bobbin case looks just like the upper one in your photo, MacyBaby. Do you know if the beautiful Domestic machine you pictured takes a 744 bobbin? That would be the final proof, as your bobbin case is identical to mine.
Thank you all again for so much help.
Farmer Eric
Thank you so very much for your expert and detailed replies.
I am so sorry I can't seem to post a picture here, but I think I've got the information I need from you regardless. (And my machine looks identical to the tan colored Viking in the post I linked in my first post.) Here is a link to just the picture of the machine from that post:
https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...501_163233.jpg
I have a top-clamp machine, so thus it is probably pre-WWII. I think the 744 bobbins are probably the right ones. Thank you for the link, Rocsew.
The bobbin case looks just like the upper one in your photo, MacyBaby. Do you know if the beautiful Domestic machine you pictured takes a 744 bobbin? That would be the final proof, as your bobbin case is identical to mine.
Thank you all again for so much help.
Farmer Eric
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If your machine uses the top-clamping feet, then it's an American White, and definitely the 744 bobbin as opposed to the 15. I don't know exactly what model you have, I never heard of a U.S.-made White 679 (there were countless Japanese Whites). FWIW, you might have to resize your pic to post it here, I'd love to see what it is.
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Sorry- for some reason I totally missed the picture link you posted in the first thread -
Yup- that is an older US made White. So far from what I've seen, all the Whites like that take the same size bobbin. I've got some from 1890's up to one near identical to what you have - and though there are changes in the bobbin case, the bobbins are all the same size.
BTW - this would have been a later made one, and the plate is the same as used by White when they started having them made in Japan. I'll have to look at my latest Whites like that and see what they've got for a plate. I've got a late model 77 and a late model 153.
Yup- that is an older US made White. So far from what I've seen, all the Whites like that take the same size bobbin. I've got some from 1890's up to one near identical to what you have - and though there are changes in the bobbin case, the bobbins are all the same size.
BTW - this would have been a later made one, and the plate is the same as used by White when they started having them made in Japan. I'll have to look at my latest Whites like that and see what they've got for a plate. I've got a late model 77 and a late model 153.
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Hello Rocsew and MacyBaby,
Thank you for replying again. I have managed to put in a photo of my own machine, though I am afraid it may be a tiny picture. I prefer old machines in general, and I am better with pre-WWII computers than with these newfangled ones.
I am up in Ontario, Canada, and I know there was a White factory in Guelph, Ontario. I wonder whether I have a Canadian made White?
I hope you can see the photo I have attached, if not I can try to resize some more.
Much gratitude,
Eric
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Thank you for replying again. I have managed to put in a photo of my own machine, though I am afraid it may be a tiny picture. I prefer old machines in general, and I am better with pre-WWII computers than with these newfangled ones.
I am up in Ontario, Canada, and I know there was a White factory in Guelph, Ontario. I wonder whether I have a Canadian made White?
I hope you can see the photo I have attached, if not I can try to resize some more.
Much gratitude,
Eric
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I didn't know they made Whites in Canada, I only knew about their Cleveland factory. I know they stopped production there right about '55, when they started just importing and badging machines. Mine is from '51, I have the manual and receipt for it.
By the way, a big part of these machines is getting good traction between the motor drive pulley and the balance wheel. If the pulley is intact but hardened, you can fresh it up with sandpaper, if you need a new one this one will fit:http://shop.sew-classic.com/Pulley-R...aller-5767.htm.
Do you live in a log cabin? Looks beautiful, I'm a city guy but I'm fascinated by rustic living.
By the way, a big part of these machines is getting good traction between the motor drive pulley and the balance wheel. If the pulley is intact but hardened, you can fresh it up with sandpaper, if you need a new one this one will fit:http://shop.sew-classic.com/Pulley-R...aller-5767.htm.
Do you live in a log cabin? Looks beautiful, I'm a city guy but I'm fascinated by rustic living.
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