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    I will be heading to Denver soon, just not on that weekend.

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    We had a good meeting this month, which was attended by Diane, Courtney, Cheryl & Chris, Dorothy, Ellen, Janey and John.

    Courtney brought some samples of ferrules he made, similar to those used by Willcox and Gibbs, for connecting the ends of leather treadle belts. He brought a sample of two leather belt ends connected with the ferrule to demonstrate. The inside of the cylindrical ferrule is threaded and the leather belt ends are both screwed into the ferrule, which holds the belt together neatly and securely.

    Diane brought step-by-step samples of her "quilt as you go" method, with written out directions pinned to each sample, showing the process of joining two squares together. She does very nice work. She also brought an unknown foot controller she had. Janey was able to identify it as fitting a Singer 337, 603 and similar machines.

    Cheryl and Chris were there with green beans from their garden and baggies for everyone to help themselves to some to take home. As we were having breakfast, her daughter was texting about the thrift store sewing machines she was finding, sending pictures to the restaurant as we ate.

    We welcomed a new member, Ellen. She pleased us all by bringing a machine she acquired, a Helvetia, patterned after a Singer three-quarter size machine. It has a wooden portable case with a coffin-top lid that has nice ornamentation and decals.

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    Ellen is a QuiltingBoard member and has a post about this machine at:
    https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...a-t289128.html

    A woman from the next table even came over and admired the machine for a while, taking a picture of it for herself with her smart phone. Among the accessories was this small item, whose function no one could guess. Does anyone reading this have any idea or suggestion as to what it might be?

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    Courtney headed out from our meeting a little before others, going to purchase a Singer 12 with hand crank that he saw on Craig's list. He later emailed us that he got it.

    We are changing our monthly meetings to the first Saturday of the month, to better accommodate people's schedules.

    More next time.

    John
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    Thank you John, it was an enjoyable morning. Also nice to meet others from "the Board". Don't know that I will ever be as knowledgeable as everyone else, but I am enjoying my treadles. :-)

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    mystery confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by OurWorkbench View Post
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    ....Among the accessories was this small item, whose function no one could guess. Does anyone reading this have any idea or suggestion as to what it might be?

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    I think Dorothy thought it was a binder and indeed it is. I saw this item with some other European machines - mainly a Pfaff and when I looked further found http://ismacs.net/pfaff/manuals/pfaf...ine-manual.pdf and on page 22 of that pdf it shows the binder and tells how to use it.

    I'm sure glad they changed the design, but it would be interesting to see this one in use.

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    The Colorado Antique and Vintage Sewing Machine Group met Saturday at Perkins in Denver. It was a beautiful day, in the seventies, one of our last before we are expected to get snow on Monday. People there were Cheryl and Chris, Diane, Dorothy, Courtney, Janey and John.

    Courtney brought a sewing machine for Janey. It was one he didn't have room for and Janey was glad to give it a home. The machine is a Brittain X. We think from about the late thirties. A picture of it once we got it home is shown below.

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    And the bentwood case after Janey wiped it down with boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits.

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    Dorothy talked about her use of jersey knit fabric to make T-shirts and some of the issues of working with bias edges. She was wearing one of them, which demonstrated her skill in making them. She also mentioned some of the advantages of using hemp fabric.

    Cheryl and Chris (both electrical engineers) talked a little about currents vs. voltages and safety issues. There are some dangerous misconceptions about the safety of 220 volts vs. 110. Bottom line, the higher the voltage, the more danger it poses to anyone contacting it.

    Janey talked with Dorothy who identified the "mystery" part from a previous get together as a bias binder or folder attachment. We posted a picture of it on this thread.

    Diane stole the show with yet another one of her small antique sewing machines. She has an amazing and envious collection. The machine was very small, heavy and well built. It is a New England chain stitch machine, shown below.

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    All for now... until next month.

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    Some additional notes from Janey -

    The New England machine doesn't seem to hold a stitch. I didn't notice any patent dates on it. Were there any? Chris held it for me so I could watch the underside while trying to stitch. It looked like it was actually catching the stitch while holding at an angle. When set down to see if actually stitched it hadn't. I'm also curious about the spring metal piece from the arm to the needle bar. The thread spool is above of the needle bar so it can't be a tension device for the thread. I know you have done some research on this machine does that include Cooper's from the Smithsonian?

    I had tried to research Britain X before actually seeing the machine. Needlebar lists Britain as being a badge for Davis and not National. It definitely is a National. It is a Reversew Rex machine. As it turns out the spelling on the machine and the bentwood case both have it spelled with double "T." It does need some major electrical work. It uses those Chicago type plugs and the casings are broken along with some bare wires. The shuttle is the same length as the Singer 27s but the bobbins are a little shorter. The shuttle has a little different smooth area than the 27s. The shuttle also has a blunt tip. Just for fun, I actually got it to make stitches (by hand) with the blunt tip. The three bobbins that came with it had multiple colors of thread on them. (shucks- just remembered I did not take any pictures) I have taken the thread off all of them, now.

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    ETA - I just noticed the spot on the front of the base and realized it is the reflection of the triangular ended key
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    November 4 Get-together

    Our group met yesterday morning at Perkins. The people there were Paula, Dorothy, Courtney, Cheryl, Chris, Janey and John.

    The principal item of interest was Courtney's grab-bag of accessories, that he purchased very inexpensively, which we went through trying to identify. Most of them were known as belonging to a puzzle box. He had gotten mainly because it had the hemmer foot for bar hemmers. However, there were a couple of items that he wasn't sure about.

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    As soon as I saw this wire, I knew what it was for. Fortunately, I now have a 15 puzzle box. (Thank you, Cathy.) For some reason I couldn't remember how it attaches. Once I explained that it was for the bobbins, Courtney, had a better handle on how it was attached to the box.

    The other item was

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    I was fairly confident it was a hemstitcher, but I don't know which machine it would be for. I'm guessing that it might be for a 15 as well. The only stampings on it were the patent dates. The patent dates are for US304447 and US311673 by W R Parson and only show the long shuttle type attachments.

    Courtney also had a brochure that he printed out for us for the Wilcox & Gibbs portable electric sewing machine.

    Paula was using the purse she had made. She talked about the difficulty of putting a zipper in vinyl or leather.

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    Unfortunately, I kind of missed out on some of the other things going on. Anyone who wants to add to this, please do.

    We all agree, how neat it is to just visit with others about our vintage and antique (and some not) machines.

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    I'm from Littleton

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    Welcome, tcharby. I'm sending a private message.

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    We met today at Perkins. We had several people there, including Dorothy, Diane, Cheryl & Chris, Janey & Jonh.

    Diane brought a sixties era Nelco machine, which has been fitted with a hand crank. It is a little more blue than we had thought. Very pretty and in very good condition. There is a picture below.

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    Janey made paperclip angels as Christmas ornaments for everyone there, shown below.

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    John and Chris talked a little about electronics, which is an interest of both, related to foot controller designs and repair. John and Diane talked a little about ground fault testers and using them on un-grounded machinery.

    Dorothy, Diane and Janey talked for a while after Chris and Cheryl had to leave, but that was after we had met for a couple of hours already, so we had a fairly lengthy breakfast meeting this time.

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    The Nelco looks just like my 3/4 size Dressmaker. It's also been badged under several other names. Mine is different in that it takes cams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cari-in-Oly View Post
    The Nelco looks just like my 3/4 size Dressmaker. It's also been badged under several other names. Mine is different in that it takes cams.
    Cari
    Thanks for posting here. I knew you had one, but I couldn't find it when I did a search. When I saw it again, I realized why I hadn't found it. I had been searching for Cutie, instead of Kutie


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    his sounds like a fun idea. Slim chance that I could go because I can't drive on I-25 anymore. But, I will write it down just in case. It would be so much fun to meet some of you.

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    Just noticed the date on this thread. Missed the opportunity by years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilterpurpledog View Post
    Just noticed the date on this thread. Missed the opportunity by years!
    NO, you didn't miss it. They meet the first Saturday in the month. Janie posts the happenings and who met to the old thread every month after they meet.

    I enjoy reading it.

    Maybe you can find a way to get there and meet them that doesn't involve I-25. Try google maps and tell it to find you a way to get there that avoids highways. If you need some assistance, PM me and I'll help.

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    I live in Topeka , Ks and made it a few months ago. Well, sort of. my calendar didn't match, but I got to meet Janey and John.

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    quilterpurpledog, I do understand about I-25. I'll send you a private message. Depending on where you live, maybe we can get you a ride share. Since you didn't mention I-70 I'm guessing you are in the front range.

    bkay, thank you for your kind words about this thread. Usually, it is John that is really good about putting together notes about our get-togethers. He seems to be better at getting it worded. Sometimes I will add to it. Even though we have a signature he will duplicate it at the end of his post. I will put "Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do" Since we both post, I figured that would be the best way to know who it actually was.

    Leon, congratulations on the Vigorelli. Seems like there was something else I wanted to reply to, but can't think of it now. Oh, I ran across something that I mentioned at the meeting. I thought about you as I started browsing through it. http://www.survivorlibrary.com/libra...o_131_1881.pdf It is labeled 'The Sewing Machine Gazette and Journal of Domestic Appliances' I haven't gotten very far through it. Check out page 35 has a patent list compiled specifically for the Gazette. I couldn't see exactly where it is published, but it appears to be from England. It looks like they changed the name to 'The Journal of Domestic Appliances and Sewing Machine Gazette.' Another thing is that the first 5 or so pages are blank.

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    Happy NEW YEAR - 2018

    What a great way to start a new year talking about old machines.

    As mentioned before, we are trying to get together on the first Saturday of the month.

    Our "get-togethers" are very informal -- Just get together and talk with others that have an interest in the old machines.

    If this would interest you, please feel to PM us and we will put you on the email list. We generally send out an email out during the week before to see how many will be able to make it.

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    January 2018

    We met yesterday at ten o'clock at Perkins in Denver. Dorothy was there, along with Diane, Courtney, Cheryl & Chris, Janey and John.

    Chris brought a two drawer stack which he made from scratch, except for the locking hardware (used hardware from trashed cabinet). Beautifully made with black walnut drawer fronts, decorated with router grooves, two across and two up and down each face. The drawer bodies were made from poplar. I wish we had pictures. With food ordering and other activities we somehow missed taking pictures. Maybe Chris or Cheryl can take and post some pictures.(hint, hint)

    Diane brought an antique sad iron, with a wooden removable handle. It was probably made sometime in the late eighteen hundreds, but just guessing.

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    For Christmas, Courtney got a small bag with pictures of Wilcox & Gibbs machines on the sides. He brought it to show, as well as to carry a few rubber balls, which are used to stop treadle wheel rotation in the wrong direction. Cheryl wanted some for her treadle.

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    Weather was good for travel and for our meeting, being clear and in the fifties. Not bad for a Colorado January. More next month.

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    additional pictures

    Dianne sent me a picture of the twin needle stitches for her Nelco (that she brought last month). I think it would be kind of neat decoration for Christmas ornaments or maybe some "heirloom" type pieces.

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    Cheryl did send a picture of the drawers and reminded me that it was for the 1885 Improved Family machine.
    Chris really is doing an excellent job. I'm so glad he brought them to show us.

    Hopefully, the picture of the drawers is between the signature(s) as it doesn't seem to insert - only attach. (It looks like it did)

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    Thanks for sharing.

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    We couldn't have asked for nicer weather for our meeting. Clear roads, sun shining and in the 50s is pretty good for a Colorado January.


    Paula was able to attend, along with Dorothy, Courtney, Janey and John.


    Janey recently purchased an embellisher, made by BabyLock. (Even if it isn't a true vintage or antique machine ) It was found, without a controller, at a thrift store for a very good price. And she had a spare controller that worked with it. She brought some examples of the work it can do with felting. The group briefly discussed wet and dry felting.

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    The picture above shows on the left side the side one facing the bed and the right side is what you see from the needle side.


    Dorothy talked a bit about the work she has done with her Bernina 707, a MiniMatic. Dorothy has quite a bit of sewing experience, both at home and at work. She frequently has tips and techniques that she is able to share with us.


    Paula has an heirloom Singer 66 that she has recently been able to get into her swewing room. She shared some details about a sewing machine card table that she likes and wants to keep.


    Courtney stole the show (again) with his Singer 24-80 chain stitch machine. It is stunningly cute. He carries it in a featherweigh-like case, with a custom made top tray. It's not a featherweight, though. Picking it up, it probably weighs as much as a few of them.


    There are pictures of the Singer 24-80 below.


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    The teal/turquoise coloring is a reflection of Janey's blouse.

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    The number showing in the bed is the stitch length index.




    Thanks to all the people who were there and we'll post again next month.


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    March 2018 Get-together

    People elsewhere in the US would have the right to be envious of the beautiful weather we had once again for our meeting. There is so much bad weather elsewhere, we should almost feel guilty. Dorothy attended, as well as Diane, Courtney, Janey and John.

    Dorothy explained a little of what she does, probably the only one of the group to have sewing as a vocation. Currently she designs accessory equipment and covers for sport and utility vehicles and has a good deal of experience with industrial machines. She knows some things the rest of us don't.

    We seem to have a collective liking for cute little machines. Courtney brought two Singer 20s and Diane brought a Foley & Williams.

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    Janey and John brought a BabyLock embellishing machine which was recently acquired. There were samples of previously felted materials, as well as some fresh sample pieces on which people could try the felting process for themselves.

    Unfortunately no pictures of the machine, but samples from last month.

    Diane also mentioned her technique of "needle down...... foot down...... sew". It is a method of preventing thread jams that seems to work well for all machines. She puts this on all of her posts, which I had previously seen, but did not fully understand until it was explained.

    More next month.
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    Both of my two Frees have rotocillo movements. One with ball bearings, one not. And yea.vibrating shuttles. Don't know the model #s though, Sorry
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    And yes, that cabinet folds out to have larger area behind the head.
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