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    Help me pick a machine for my SIL

    My SIL who was going to give us the treadle machine that's been slowly rotting away in her garage has been talking about putting a different head in the treadle base and keep it on hand as a fall back when there is no electricity or it's rationed .... her words, not mine.

    I'm still wanting that treadle machine and base, a 7 drawer base with 9W in it, and I was thinking about putting together a package for her as a trade if you will.

    Oh, supposedly the machine is a 9W by the serial number, but in an email this morning she says it's been motorized. She didn't say how, the 9W has no motor boss on the pilar.

    OK, here is her criteria so far:

    Easy to maintain
    Uses standard easy to get needles
    Uses standard easy to get bobbins
    Has a set of attachments with it
    Can be treadled in a Singer cabinet

    I'm going to add;
    Is a ZZ machine with a few satin and stretch stitches
    Is ALL steel inside
    Is a Singer machine - parts are easier to come by

    So, what would you recommend? Nothing fancy, nothing really modern, but nothing really ancient either.

    PS: As far as the accessories I do believe I can cover her needs in that department from my stash, so that's no problem.

    :-> Joe
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    my wheeler ( has no mounts ,, yet I have seen wheeler 9's on C/l and they have motor's and in portable case's

    fact the bulk of the wheeler 9's showing up are motorized and portable , some of these motor have a strap type mount with a hole on each side, I have seen one's where they have just screw the motor to the base ( wood) and simply ran a belt to the hand wheel...

    remember in 1910, teh little ye ol sewing shop wasn't just a short drive away.. and ordering online took a bit more than overnight ..

    I read that singer did copy wheeler's design for the first few yrs, then started doing mod's to that machine. I would think the first mod may have been a motor mount or maybe just screw hole in the body..

    whites first motor mounts where just two screws on teh back of teh column , which would be a very easy thing to do on a w9 / 9w

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    Singer 237. Early 70's model made in Italy and is all metal and inexpensive. It can be treadled but only has straight and zz stitch. Quite a few Japanese machines would fit the bill only there not Singer.

    Jon

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    I just rearead what you had on that list of wants, and first singer that came to mind is a 237 .. LOL....I have had one for a good 20 yrs and no matter what other machines I have I keep going back to that old 237...

    I don't know every singer,, but a very plus on these is that ,, they do have an adjustable needle bar...

    In watching C/L I notice I seldom see a 237, when I do it's very over priced.. as in a 100 plus $ There nothing more than a basic zz machine.. bolt on motor. yes made in Itlay, so can bet singer did a contract with necchi on those..

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    Quote Originally Posted by notsureif View Post
    my wheeler ( has no mounts ,, yet I have seen wheeler 9's on C/l and they have motor's and in portable case's

    fact the bulk of the wheeler 9's showing up are motorized and portable , some of these motor have a strap type mount with a hole on each side, I have seen one's where they have just screw the motor to the base ( wood) and simply ran a belt to the hand wheel...

    remember in 1910, teh little ye ol sewing shop wasn't just a short drive away.. and ordering online took a bit more than overnight ..

    I read that singer did copy wheeler's design for the first few yrs, then started doing mod's to that machine. I would think the first mod may have been a motor mount or maybe just screw hole in the body..

    whites first motor mounts where just two screws on teh back of teh column , which would be a very easy thing to do on a w9 / 9w
    I have a Singer 9W-7 treadle machine. I'm quite familiar with them. Don't really care for them due to the fact they turn backwards. It will be interesting to see how they motorized the 9W when I get it.

    Joe

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    Jon, notsureif,

    Singer 237 will henceforth be put on the list. If not for my SIL, then for me. I've also been looking for a simple straight / ZZ machine for both electric and treadle use. Sounds like it would fit the bill.

    Joe

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    I have a 238 that can be treadled. It uses the flat black cams for ZZ and other stitches.
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    SIL finally answered us. Best we can get out of her is she wants a good older solid machine with easily replaced parts if needed. Doesn't have to be a ZZ but does have to have reverse. And has to use low shank attachments and accessories.

    So I'm thinking of a 15 or later 66.

    Also turns out she's got quite a few machines so she knows where to go to get them. I didn't know that till last night. If I see something she might be interested in I'll tell her.

    Joe

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    Give SIL one of your 66's, you have 4(?)

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    Jon,

    Shssssss, don't tell anyone, I have 5 66s. 2 66-4 Red Eyes, 1 66-18 crinkle, 1 66-16 cabinet, 1 66-4(?) motorized ex treadle machine with no case .... yet.

    Not sure I want to "give" any of them to her at this point. We'll see.

    Joe

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    I know the feeling on giving away a sewing machine---I think I might prefer giving away one of my grandkids--especially now that they're all teenagers.....
    Make every day count for something!

    JoAnn

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    SIL finally answered us. Best we can get out of her is she wants a good older solid machine with easily replaced parts if needed. Doesn't have to be a ZZ but does have to have reverse. And has to use low shank attachments and accessories.

    So I'm thinking of a 15 or later 66.

    Also turns out she's got quite a few machines so she knows where to go to get them. I didn't know that till last night. If I see something she might be interested in I'll tell her.

    Joe
    Thinking maybe you better go dig in her stash pile

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Jon,

    Shssssss, don't tell anyone, I have 5 66s. 2 66-4 Red Eyes, 1 66-18 crinkle, 1 66-16 cabinet, 1 66-4(?) motorized ex treadle machine with no case .... yet.

    Not sure I want to "give" any of them to her at this point. We'll see.

    Joe

    Sorry Joe,

    Does she look through the QB?

    Should have used "trade" instead of "give". WW for a 66 would be alright if in half decent shape.

    Jon

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    notsureif,

    I'm not sure that would be safe, she just might do me harm.

    Jon,

    We don't think so. We've deliberately avoided any mention of it.
    I'd rather have a 66 than a WW. They are more useful to me. But she doesn't know I was thinking of trading so I'm safe as long as we keep our yaps shut and she isn't reading here.

    Joe

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    LOL.. yep, I have a friend, she'll take any machine I let her have, BUT look at hers side ways and your taking your life in your hands...

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    Joe, there are lots of really good Kenmore machines from the 1970s out there - all metal and zz and maybe a few other stitches. Cheap and great machines. There are some pretty cool Japanese machines, White, lots of really nice older zz machines out there that would treadle if they were given a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Joe, there are lots of really good Kenmore machines from the 1970s out there - all metal and zz and maybe a few other stitches. Cheap and great machines. There are some pretty cool Japanese machines, White, lots of really nice older zz machines out there that would treadle if they were given a chance.
    Yep, there sure is. I have several right now and don't want my SIL to hear about them. Least wise not till I get all I wa ........ 'er need.

    Joe

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    Joe,
    I love my Singer 237, used to be electric, did a bit of surgery..er..removals, now its a treadle.

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    I bought a 1942 Singer 66-16 yesterday (thanks Joe for helping me identify her!) and I'm in love. The cabinet is lovely! The only drawback was finding the box of attachments were all high shank and this machine needs low shank. But at least I have a low shank all-purpose and a zipper foot that will fit her!

    I'll sell my 15-91 centennial to make room for her. Hate to say goodbye to her though, she's been so good to me!

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    Here is one that will also treadle...
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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    My wife says my SIL would probably have fun with it laughing the whole time.

    But to be honest if I take her one it would probably be nothing more than a Chevy Nova style Singer.

    Joe

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    "Chevy Nova style Singer"
    Stylist? What's the matter? Don't you get along?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    "Chevy Nova style Singer"
    Stylist? What's the matter? Don't you get along?
    No, not really. She said some things about me some years ago I took offense at. So I'm just a bit leery of having much to do with her.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    No, not really. She said some things about me some years ago I took offense at. So I'm just a bit leery of having much to do with her.

    Joe
    AH Dude, I have a deal for you then... LOL
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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