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Thread: Need Instructions (and Courage) for Singer 301 Hook Disassembly

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    Need Instructions (and Courage) for Singer 301 Hook Disassembly

    I just brought home a neglected Singer 301. The handwheel doesn't turn freely. I have successfully removed the needle that was stuck, but still can't move the handwheel very much at all. I think the next step would be to disassemble the hook and clean it out. I am apprehensive about doing that without instructions. Any advice would be helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylesewblessed View Post
    I just brought home a neglected Singer 301. The handwheel doesn't turn freely. I have successfully removed the needle that was stuck, but still can't move the handwheel very much at all. I think the next step would be to disassemble the hook and clean it out. I am apprehensive about doing that without instructions. Any advice would be helpful.

    Thanks!
    Dayle

    You need a 'Singer 301 service manual' http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...-machines.html - that is only an instruction manual - There are some out there for sale though - it may be the same in that area as a FW It is also possible that the owner's manual would have how to take it apart - if so it can't be too hard.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    try singer301.com

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    It's really simple to take out the hook and clean it. Putting it back is a cinch too. Have you oiled it well?

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    Thank you all for suggestions. Singer301.com is interesting, but I can't find anything technical there. I do have the owner's manual, which gives a good diagram of the hook and shows where to oil, but says nothing about its removal. I have oiled, but to no avail. I guess I will remove the little screw that I see there and see what happens.

    Dayle

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    Remove the two screws and out it comes.

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    I am happyp to read all these commetns about the 301 ,,, I just got one , runs like a purring kitten, but before I sew much on it I want to clean and oil ... don't have a manual yet, but one is on the way from a friend..... then I know it will be my favorite.....

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    Update on my 301 problem:
    After removing the hand wheel, we find that the shaft turns smoothly, needle bar moves fine, and so does the bobbin/hook. Today we will work on the hand wheel.
    My friend sent me a wonderful Youtube video with instructions for removing the "bobbin cup" from the hook assembly. I didn't need it this time, but since that area of the machine is the same as the Featherweight, I am sure I will need it for one machine or the other in the future.
    Thanks again for your help!
    Dayle

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    When I got my FW I could not turn the wheel. Then I discovered the bobbin mechanism was engaged. Once I released that it flew. Maybe yours has something simple too. Check it over before doing anything major. Sometimes it takes more than one look over to see things. I know that happens to me. LOL

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    Just be careful if you decide to remove the bobbin case. That screw is VERY tiny and easy to lose! Ask me how I know!

    Pat

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    The 301 is a machine that I would love to have next. I have a 128, 99K, 221 and some others that are not Singers but next....the 301.

    I hope you are able to bring it back to life. Can't wait to see pictures.
    Angie S.

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    I'm wondering if you got it to work?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Thanks for your continued interest in my project. No, I have not gotten it to work. The main gear connecting the motor and the handwheel gear is frozen. That is beyond my capability, and since the machine only cost $15, I am dismantling it. I am keeping some of the parts as spares for my other 301, which is in fine working condition, and selling some of the other parts. I think it is a good idea to keep an extra foot controller on hand, which can also be used on my FW.

    I imagine a Singer repair person could have fixed the machine, but at a cost. It seemed like the best decision to go no further on it and try to get some revenue from it.

    Dayle

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    Too bad....there are a few ways to unlock frozen gears and save the machine...

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    I have a slant needle 404 singer sewing machine. I have had it for awhile, but unfortunately I can't get it to run properly for long. I have tried different setting, but so far nothing works. For the last setting, I loosened the tension from nuber 3 back to zero and I set it to a larger stitich. It will stitch about 8 inches down the cloth, and then it starts gathering and the bobbin thread gets alll tangled. So I have to cut the fabric from the thread. I'm wondering if a repair man can even fix it? Any advice would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbz689 View Post
    I have a slant needle 404 singer sewing machine. I have had it for awhile, but unfortunately I can't get it to run properly for long. I have tried different setting, but so far nothing works. For the last setting, I loosened the tension from nuber 3 back to zero and I set it to a larger stitich. It will stitch about 8 inches down the cloth, and then it starts gathering and the bobbin thread gets alll tangled. So I have to cut the fabric from the thread. I'm wondering if a repair man can even fix it? Any advice would be appreciated.
    There are a couple things that could be wrong with it and I wished I lived closer to you as I could probably fix it for you. Do you have a manual? You can try disassembling the tensioner, cleaning it and re-installing it. The tensioner may need this adjustment. After doing that and you still get tangles, I'd suggest changing the bobbin case tension with the small screw. I'd only touch the bobbin case after adjusting the tensioner. Both are shown in the manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbz689 View Post
    I have a slant needle 404 singer sewing machine. I have had it for awhile, but unfortunately I can't get it to run properly for long. I have tried different setting, but so far nothing works. For the last setting, I loosened the tension from nuber 3 back to zero and I set it to a larger stitich. It will stitch about 8 inches down the cloth, and then it starts gathering and the bobbin thread gets alll tangled. So I have to cut the fabric from the thread. I'm wondering if a repair man can even fix it? Any advice would be appreciated.

    Check and see if the needle is installed flat side to the back.
    Check and see if your needle is slightly bent.
    Are there any burrs on your pressure foot, needle plate hole, or on the shuttle?
    Some times the tension does need a bit of clean up. Put a bit of sewing machine oil on a piece of string and then 'floss' your tension. I have had dried up oil do that on one of my machines.
    Is there any lint in the bobbin area? To clean, pull out the bobbin carrier - see manual - once you have done it and re-assembled it is pretty easy. The first time is the hardest - look at how it goes real good before you take it out. Take a picture if needed. keep us posted.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffygirl View Post
    Just be careful if you decide to remove the bobbin case. That screw is VERY tiny and easy to lose! Ask me how I know!

    Pat

    I'm not sure how many might know about the trick of making the screwdriver magnetic. Just slide the blade several times across a good magnet and it helps keep the screw on the blade so you can remove it without dropping. I just leave my little screwdriver on the magnet so it's as ready as possible. Also lay a sheet down around the area so in case something falls you have a better chance of finding it. I'm sure you can guess how I know the one. LOL after I found it.

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    Miriam and Candace, Thank you both for your advice.
    I forgot to add that it had been sitting for about 8 months before I decided to set it up to give it another try. But before I put it away I oiled it. When I tried to sew with it last week, at first the machine just made a humming sound, but it would not sew. After about 15 seconds it started to slowly run, but it was very sluggish for about 8 seconds. Then it ran normal.

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    Miriam and Candace, Thank you both for your advice.
    I forgot to add that it had been sitting for about 8 months before I decided to set it up to give it another try. But before I put it away I oiled it. When I tried to sew with it last week, at first the machine just made a humming sound, but it would not sew. After about 15 seconds it started to slowly run, but it was very sluggish for about 8 seconds. Then it ran normal.
    Good for you!

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    Take it apart maybe?

    After I oiled it I unthreaded both the needle and bobbin, and let ti run for awhile before I put it away. Perhaps I should take it apart and clean everything. The only problem with that is the manual only covers the basic subjects. I'm not a sewing machine expert, so I fear I might never get it back together properly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbz689 View Post
    After I oiled it I unthreaded both the needle and bobbin, and let ti run for awhile before I put it away. Perhaps I should take it apart and clean everything. The only problem with that is the manual only covers the basic subjects. I'm not a sewing machine expert, so I fear I might never get it back together properly?
    Have you found a repair manual? They call them adjuster's manual, repair manual, maintenance manual or service manual - I haven't looked for a free one but you never know.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    When I got my FW the hand wheel would not turn. I found a small piece of a straight pin broken off in the part where the bobbin goes.

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    No I only have the basic 'how to' manual.

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    http://www.april1930s.com/html/singe...221_adjus.html
    there are other places to get one as well, I did not see a free pdf
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