Here is another machine like that modern. It would likely be the same inside and it would be used the same. It just has different bling.
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Notice the bobbins are on the ends. Both will take class 15 bobbins and bobbin cases. Tension is in the front. Stitch length is on the right. Feed dog drop is on the bed. Reverse is a little different but not a big deal. I don't know what they are clones of but they are nice machines.
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Hi, any suggestions on where to check for more obscure parts for Japanese clones? I am looking for a replacement part for a Morse 4300 Fotomatic. I believe the part is called a feed lifter fork. Mine is broken off. It is on the underside of the machine of course, and connects to one of the shafts and functions to lift the feed dogs. (Right now the feed dogs are down and move back and forth. No up movement at all.)

(I think the machine is a III but feed dog mechanism looks more like a 4400/IV like this one (look at photo that shows the bottom of machine): http://www.ebay.com/itm/MORSE-FOTOMA...MAAOSwdzVXiGQn

I have checked Helen Howes but looks like most of her stuff is Singer. I have written to GUy Baker and to Sew Classic. I have also posted on the VintageJapanSewingMachine Yahoo group (and scoured their photos and conversations) but no replies yet. I thank you for your time!

First, your machine is not a clone. Your best bet to find that part is from someone who is parting out one of those machines. Ebay is where I would watch.

Cari

Cari, how do you know it is not a clone? So curious!!

Because a 4300 is a dashboard machine. You know, all bright and full of knobs and levers..........
A clone is a straight stitch machine with the basic body shape of a Singer 15. Like this one-
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Cari

Cari, the machine in your photo is a Japanese 15 clone. But those dash board machines with the tension on front and end load class 15 bobbin and straight stitch only really are clones, just NOT 15 clones. There was a machine made in Germany maybe by Singer that they were patterned after and they are a clone of it and you are right they are NOT a 15 clone. I just can't find the post on VSS. When I do I'll link to it. BTW good machines. The famous pink ATLAS is also the same kind of dashboard clone. Mostly clones were straight stitch.

There are clones of the Singer 128 and Singer 66 as well. That is why the one with the tension on the end should be called a Japanese 15 or 15 clone or Japanese 15 clone. There may be other machines that were cloned. The 128 and 66 aren't as common. I have one of each so they are out there found in the wild.

The German Lotus Singer would be the machine they were patterned after internally.
http://www.victoriansweatshop.com/po...pid=1292680178

Yes Miriam, but it all depends on how far you want to take the term "clone". I think it's over used. And going back to Annettes' question to me, how do I know a Morse 4300 isn't a clone? It isn't a clone because it's a zig zag fancy dancy dashboard machine.

Cari

A clone is a replicate of a previously existing entity. There have been plenty of zigzag machines made all over the world that have been replicated by the Japanese. Smart folks, those Japanese. Not all clones are straight stitch mock Singer 15. Engineering is one amazing field. Clones, as far as sewing machines are concerned, cannot be limited to Singer 15 types.

Thoughts, anyone?

The Japanese had just as much to do with the designing of, or engineering of if you will, of the mechanics of sewing machines as anyone else from the 50s on. They took the 15 class system and ran with it. As far as I'm concerned, by the late 50s Japanese machines were being better designed and built than any Singer machine and they only continued to get better. If that weren't true, Janome and Brother wouldn't be where they are today.

Cari

I agree!! If it weren't for an amazing cache I found, my Japanese machines would by far be the bulk of my collection.

Besides the Singer 15 class machines referred to as clones, the only other ones I am aware of are the clones, made in Germany, of the Singer 12.

I have an Aden's that appears to be a 66 clone.
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Somewhere I have a clone of a Singer 128 badged Remington. The ones I've seen have a lever for stitch length or maybe reverse, I don't remember what it does but it has been there on the ones that were cloned.

Looks more like a 201 to me.

Cari

Just the stitch length. Under the hood it is a 66. I could only wish it was a 201. This machine needed a fair amount of tech work since some things were never set up right. It is from occupied Japan.

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Made in occupied Japan
Alden's clone of a Singer 66
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I forgot about the copies of the Willcox and Gibbs. The Eldredge was a straight copy, as was The New Home. Sewalot.com

I had a hard time seeing if this link was on here - it is all about tension
http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...s-t274991.html

Igot my moms TURISSA swissmatic sewing machine made on 1960 a very fine machine.
It has two diving belts ( zahnreimen) Does anybody knows how to find them? how man dents each and which lenght?
Thnks

You might have better luck with an answer if you posted your question as a new thread, rather than here.

Sorry, but I have no clue.

bkay

Those belts aren't made anymore.

TFSR manuals still available
 

This is from the first post in this thread. However, that link doesn't work. Good news they are currently available at http://web.archive.org/web/201610160...achine_manual/

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

My husband just bought me a Singer JC854819. I will post a picture in the following post ( I hope). There isn't a manual with this machine. Does anyone know where I can get a copy? I will try to send a picture in this post. Wish me luck!
I took a photo with my ipad. Usually I can post the picture taken from my ipad to here but I just can't do it today.

A picture would help. It looks like JC serial numbers were made between 1948 and 1954 in Canada. A good resource for identifying the model can be found at http://www.sandman-collectibles.com/...r-machines.htm Once you have figured out the model number you can usually find a manual at
http://www.singerco.com/support/instruction-manuals

For the basic servicing of the machine, you will find a lot of good information at http://web.archive.org/web/201610160...achine_manual/
Those files don't include anything about motors.

Good luck

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

I have been trying since last night to send a picture. I have also followed your files but either this machine does not exist or I am imaging it sitting in my kitchen.LOL
I was wondering if I got a manual from a close machine #, would I be able to use that? What I did find out is this it could be a model 60 or 61. I have no idea what that is or by now how to find it. I have been at this so long that now I am confused and ready to take it back.

Is it a singer 66 or a 600? The serial number seems off for either one. Too new for a 66 and too old for a 600

Singer
 

Here is my picture of the Singer I am trying to find the manual for.

Good machine - a 15-91 with what they call a potted motor. You can download the manual - here
http://www.singerco.com/uploads/down...54a175ca4c.pdf

Enjoy the machine. It looks like it is in good shape.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

I've got a Husqvarna 6020 and no manual. Can anyone here help? In addition, I've got some bobbins but I'm not at all sure that they are the "right" bobbins for my machine. (Thanks, Huskvarna, for making life so difficult.)

Thanks in advance! :-)

Thanks so much for your help Janey. How do I determine the age for 15-91? Sorry about the upside down picture! I am working on that.
We bought it at a local quilt shop and the owner said that it had just been cleaned and repaired.
I love it except for the weight! I can't lift it at all, my husband has to lift it for mel

You are welcome. I'm glad I could help.

As far as the age of the machine, it is hard to determine a really close age for JC serial numbers. As I mentioned before that the JC serial numbers were assigned between 1948 and 1954. There aren't really good records kept during that time. Based on the serial number of your machine, I would think that it was manufactured between 1952 and 1954.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Sunrise450,
Another thing that helps with approximate dating is the face plate. Older machines before 1950-52(roughly) had a fancy scroll work face plate. Yours looks to have the striated, or striped, face plate indicative of the 1950s on up machines.

Cari

I was just given a Singer 66-18 ( I think) that has a rotten belt. Does anyone have a good source for something like that? The serial number is AG 284074 made in Elizebeth, NJ in Dec 41.

Found one! Thanks anyway y'all.

I am new to community and hope I am not breaching any rules . I am just learning to sew and hope to advance to being able to make quilts in a reasonable period of time. Just dusted off a vintage machine from the 70's, a Dial and Sew Model 916SS. I made a simple costume for my granddaughter without problem. However, when I wanted to wind my bobbin with another color of thread, the winder would not turn.Tt was working when last used many years ago. I do not have a manual and have not been able to locate one. Does anyone have suggestions as to how I can fix the problem or, even more importantly, locate a manual?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
thanks

Some times there will be dried up oil in the bobbin winder. They can be tough to get to move.

Welcome.
It would help to have a picture of your machine. Did you turn the clutch on the hand wheel? Did you push the lever into the bobbin?

https://www.google.com/search?q=sewu...iw=806&bih=474 has some threading diagrams for a variety of machines. Or look on this page http://www.sewusa.com/Sewing_Machine...g_Machines.htm

I'm thinking that you may have a Japanese badged machine. Maybe you can find a similar one at https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...s-t207880.html or https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...s-t207877.html

This is a different model, but same badge https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...w-t220975.html

Good luck.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.