It would be a PITB to make a gasket for my industrial machine.

Well, we decided against the W&W 8. We're really trying to stay focused on the hand cranks, Singers and New Homes at the moment. It's probably still sitting there just north of Madison if someone else is interested.

you ought to go get it just to play with it - pretty cool engineering on them...

I would not run an industrial with out adequate oiling system - If it needs that oil pan - it needs that oil pan. Some do not use an oil pan at all. Be sure it has one if it needs one though. I don't know where to research those old industrial machines - I think it would be a good idea before buying one though. I've had several - some with pans some without. While they are still just a sewing machine they can be somewhat different. Some have odd ways of setting the stitch length some have no reverse - some take big bobbins some take regular household size bobbins. Most have oil wicks up inside - I've seen them dried hard. It might be wise to do a bit of research before buying one of them. They are pretty easy to find these days. 10 years or so ago they were hard to find and expensive. Now that we have factories all over the place closed down and CL - the price has gone down as well. I've seen the same ad on CL for a couple years now for one. It is either in pathetic shape or they guy doesn't answer or he had a ton of them to get rid of - the ad keeps coming up. Parts aren't always as easy to come by as the home machines.

Miriam - tell you what. You convince Herself and I'll do it :). "We" was a little, um, ironic I guess, though she does have a point about the somewhat industrial appearance. I checked out manual and I agree that the engineering looks very cool - though I originally thought the hook ran directly on the same shaft the balance wheel sits on but instead it looks to be offset slightly (gear driven?)

Miriam,

I just posted several of your pictures on your Phoenix thread. (Anyone Ever hear of a Phoenix Sewing Machine?)
They look good.

That is a really neat machine.

Cathy

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I'm very impressed by that machine. I was impressed with the old Pfaff machines as well but this one is so simple yet so well thought out. I can't wait to do more with it.

Cathy where would you research industrial sewing machines if you were going to use one?

Miriam,

Needlebar.org is a great resource.
There is a Yahoo group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sewing...hines/messages
The Smithsonian collection: http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...wing-Machines/
http://leatherworker.net/forum/ search for sewing machine discussions
Bob Kovar at http://www.tolindsewmach.com/

These should get you going.

Cathy

So Miriam, that means the little guy is completely well now?

Nancy

Oh my yes Wilbur now has a LIFE - DD feels run over by a truck - he is making up for lost time. He can do about any animal imitation including moving like the animal and the sounds. He is talking in complete sentences now, he knows his numbers, colors, alphabet, etc and can sing in a very high falsetto just about anything he hears once - he's eating and using the potty with some success. Baby Walter is just trying to keep up... :D