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    Question about Free Westinghouse

    I have a local Sewing shop who called me because he has a customer with a Free Westinghouse VS.

    They are looking for a shuttle and bobbin. They mentioned part number "CE32057" Style 281650

    for whatever that is worth. Does anyone have any suggestions for sourses or compatible?

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    Steve,

    I have a Free made just before it became Free Westinghouse. It has the Westinghouse motor on it and is a fair copy of the Singer Mdl 27. It uses the same bobbins and shuttle as the Singer 127 I have. I don't know if they all do, but it would be worth a try.

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    I have a Free Westinghouse I bought last month at a thrift store for fifteen dollars...It is in great shape but the cabinet needs repair...I like you cannot find bobbins...I will be watching to see if anyone has any suggestions....

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    Me too as I picked up one an ALB with the turtle motor. Yet I read on one site that for mine the Kenmore 71 bobbin 10625 should work with the one I have. Thinking the size was/is 7/8 " Then I read the Kenmore 71 was made by White...not 100% sure this information is right???

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    The Kenmore 71 is probably the 120.71, which was made by New Process Gear Corp (a division of Chrysler).
    If it is the 120.71 it takes the size H bobbin. Which is the same size as the Featherweight bobbin.

    Cathy

    Quote Originally Posted by caroloto View Post
    Me too as I picked up one an ALB with the turtle motor. Yet I read on one site that for mine the Kenmore 71 bobbin 10625 should work with the one I have. Thinking the size was/is 7/8 " Then I read the Kenmore 71 was made by White...not 100% sure this information is right???
    Cathy

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    That is interesting if that Kenmore 71 is the 120.71 which uses the Featherweight bobbin...

    This is where I found one of the information: http://www.ismacs.net/sears/sears.html

    And here is where I found bobbins and rotary bobbin case for Free Westinghouse ALB which says it also fits Kenmore 71: http://sewingmachine221sale.bizland....re/page44.html

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    I hate to argue with Graham over at ISMACS, but the picture in the first link is a New Process Gear Corp. machine.
    It takes the 3368 bobbin case with the smaller bobbin, #1025 aka H. The H bobbin package that I have ( somewhere) in my collection states that it fits the Featherweight. I will have to try the H bobbin in my Featherweight and try the Featherweight bobbin in my Kenmore 71. Unfortunately I won't be home until Sunday afternoon to try this out.
    Joe has a 120.49 which is basically the same machine. Maybe he can try it out for us.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by caroloto View Post
    That is interesting if that Kenmore 71 is the 120.71 which uses the Featherweight bobbin...

    This is where I found one of the information: http://www.ismacs.net/sears/sears.html

    And here is where I found bobbins and rotary bobbin case for Free Westinghouse ALB which says it also fits Kenmore 71: http://sewingmachine221sale.bizland....re/page44.html
    Cathy

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    Since you are talking about a Free Westinghouse machines are they worth anything and are they good machines? I've seen a few for sale but didn't know anything about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quilter Day-by-Day View Post
    Since you are talking about a Free Westinghouse machines are they worth anything and are they good machines? I've seen a few for sale but didn't know anything about them.
    "I have a local Sewing shop who called me because he has a customer with a Free Westinghouse VS."

    I only collect older machines so I have no idea of the value. I think the thread is no longer about Free Westinghouse machines (wink)

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    Well, my Free Sewing Machine Co VS machine is a cast iron TANK. The head alone must weight close to 35 pounds. It sews great, is quieter than every other VS machine I've got and used, and as I said above uses Singer style shuttles and bobbins.
    Are they good machines ... yes. Are they as good as their contemporary Singers .... yes. Do they have a high resale value .... no.
    Are they worth buying and using ... definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    "I have a local Sewing shop who called me because he has a customer with a Free Westinghouse VS."

    I only collect older machines so I have no idea of the value. I think the thread is no longer about Free Westinghouse machines (wink)
    LOL Steve, I was still on the Free Westinghouse getting a bobbin as I too am looking for them. While hunting I came across which other sewing machine bobbin may work. I myself picked up one on Sunday that has 1 bobbin, and the bobbin case but they have some rust (soaking in oil at this time) and was hoping to find a replacement bobbin case and a few more non rusted bobbins. The only place durring my search I found any that were available was the on Sewingmachine221 then measured the ones I have here to see which size was needed for mine. I noticed that the other machines that suppose to use the same bobbin case and bobbins and then hunted for those machine parts hoping to find a cheaper price.

    Here is the one I picked up ALB # 386423 before cleaning

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    Steve I did find while I was hunting for my parts what you are looking for but since it wasn't what I needed and I hadn't read this post yet I didn't save them. Yet since it seems there are other parts by different sewing companies that have the same parts maybe there is also for the one what that person needs? Gosh I wish then while I was searching I knew you wanted that information I would of linked it here for you to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    I hate to argue with Graham over at ISMACS, but the picture in the first link is a New Process Gear Corp. machine.
    It takes the 3368 bobbin case with the smaller bobbin, #1025 aka H. The H bobbin package that I have ( somewhere) in my collection states that it fits the Featherweight. I will have to try the H bobbin in my Featherweight and try the Featherweight bobbin in my Kenmore 71. Unfortunately I won't be home until Sunday afternoon to try this out.
    Joe has a 120.49 which is basically the same machine. Maybe he can try it out for us.

    Cathy
    Cathy,

    Just got down to the basement and checked the bobbins on the 120-491 vs the Featherweight. The 120-491 bobbins are just a rim thickness wider than the FW bobbins, but they do fit in the FW bobbin case and don't bind when mounted on the FW. I tried the FW bobbins in the 120-491 and they fit but were just a bit thinner in the case.
    I don't doubt they'd interchange, but considering the extra thickness of the non FW bobbins you might run into tolerance problems on some machines.

    Joe

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    carolotto,

    Soak the bobbin case in Evapo-Rust, that will derust it much better than oil.

    Also try FW bobbins if you can't find any OEM ones.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    carolotto,

    Soak the bobbin case in Evapo-Rust, that will derust it much better than oil.

    Also try FW bobbins if you can't find any OEM ones.

    Joe
    Thank you Joe! I will get some Evapo-Rust. I own a Featherweight with all OEM bobbins so I should be ok there to try it.

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    Joe,

    Thank you for the testing. I guess the only way to know for sure whether or not everything is interchangeable is to try.
    I'll see if I can do that next weekend when I get back home.

    Cathy

    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Cathy,

    Just got down to the basement and checked the bobbins on the 120-491 vs the Featherweight. The 120-491 bobbins are just a rim thickness wider than the FW bobbins, but they do fit in the FW bobbin case and don't bind when mounted on the FW. I tried the FW bobbins in the 120-491 and they fit but were just a bit thinner in the case.
    I don't doubt they'd interchange, but considering the extra thickness of the non FW bobbins you might run into tolerance problems on some machines.

    Joe
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    I was just given this exact same machine and have been scouring the net looking for more information; do you have any idea of its history, how i can find out when it was manufactured, etc...
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by caroloto View Post
    LOL Steve, I was still on the Free Westinghouse getting a bobbin as I too am looking for them. While hunting I came across which other sewing machine bobbin may work. I myself picked up one on Sunday that has 1 bobbin, and the bobbin case but they have some rust (soaking in oil at this time) and was hoping to find a replacement bobbin case and a few more non rusted bobbins. The only place durring my search I found any that were available was the on Sewingmachine221 then measured the ones I have here to see which size was needed for mine. I noticed that the other machines that suppose to use the same bobbin case and bobbins and then hunted for those machine parts hoping to find a cheaper price.

    Here is the one I picked up ALB # 386423 before cleaning

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    I was just given this exact same machine and have been scouring the net looking for more information; do you have any idea of its history, how i can find out when it was manufactured, etc... mine came in a cabinet...
    Thanks

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    Well yes I can give you the information I have found so far. Yet I know these machines were made in Rockford, IL about 45 miles from where I live and I was just told the other day that the factory (no longer used) the building is still there...I may in the neat future look into where it/the building is suppose to be and take a ride to see it, if I do I'll take pictures and share here. Really hoping that there maybe a history information on the machines too.

    I found one that is for sale on this site: http://www.singeroriginalvintageprod...CHINESALE.aspx

    Not sure if yours came with a manual? Mine didn't so I found where I could get one:
    http://pages.sewing-machine-manuals....923708588.html

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    Found some more information on the ALB http://myperfectstitch.blogspot.com/...r-classic.html this tells how to buy Schultz needles to grind them down to fit on and give you the perfect stitch.

    Not sure if these will still work as it was posted 4 years ago: "New Home also has records showing manufacturing dates up to 1955. If you have a machine manufactured by New Home or Free Westinghouse and want to know the year of manufacture, please send the serial number to the New Home Sewing Machine Co, PO Box 25901, Los Angeles 25, California." http://www.ismacs.net/newhome/manufacture_dates.html

    As I find more I'll post it.

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