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Thread: Singer Home Machine service manuals

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    Singer Home Machine service manuals

    I have the Singer Industrial sewing machine service manual section bookmarked.

    I used to have the Home machine service manual section, but lost it when my other HD failed.

    Can someone give me link to the Singer section for home machine service manuals? Not the owners manual, but the service (fix it, adjust it ) manual?

    Specifically I'm looking for the ones for a Singer 413 right now.

    Joe

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    this thread had some links- I will dig out the military repair specs manuals link.

    http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...s-t190280.html
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    sorry- the military guides I have don't cover machines that recent...
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    makitmama,

    Thanks for the link to one of "my" old threads. LOL! I'd completely forgotten about it. I bookmarked it this time.
    Unfortunately the links in it do not have any identifiable manuals for the 413s. I've been through both of them till I'm blue in the face and didn't find what I'm looking for. I'm either blind ............ or just can't see the page for the links. Sigh ...........

    Joe

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    Joe, I have a stylist, I think it's a 416, on my table now. What are you trying to fix?
    Stephanie in Mena

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    Stephanie,

    This machine clatters like crazy. It's a metallic noise, and the faster you push it the louder it gets. We have had every cover part off this machine that comes off watching as it runs and just cannot find what's making the noise. The other 413 isn't quiet, but it don't clatter like this one.
    Plus the stitch length control is out of adjustment. I'm thinking that might have an affect on the stretch stitch settings. At best it's difficult to regulate the stitch length.

    Basically I'm trying to diagnose the noise, and adjust the stitch length knob so the numbers correspond to reality.

    Joe

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    did you check the tnt site? he has a schematic and some other manuals...
    http://www.tandtrepair.com/StylistLine.html
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    you can LOOK at manual pages here without any cost. Click the little << and >> at the bottom.
    http://sewingonline.co.uk/instructions/singer413/
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    OK, this sounds funny, but it works sometimes.
    Take a screwdriver and touch it to a suspicious part of the machine.
    Put the handle end next to your ear.
    Turn the machine by hand and see if this amplifies the sound so you can pinpoint the source.
    Try different parts/areas of the machine.
    Stephanie in Mena

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    makitmama,

    Thanks, I'll check 'em out.

    Stephanie,
    Been doing that. I've used that trick for decades on my cars and trucks. The noise is in the main shaft or things connected to it.
    When I unlock the stop motion knob to wind a bobbin it's as quiet as can be.

    Joe

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    Joe, I wonder if this is like the 99 that I have on my bench right now. It's been trying to tell me knock knock jokes, but never gets to the punchline. Worse still, the noise seems to rocket around the machine - sometimes it seems like it's by the needlebar, sometimes by the vertical shaft, sometimes even by the hook. As with your machine too,.. if the stop motion knob is in bobbin winding position, no more knocking.

    I finally narrowed it down to the whole horizontal shaft. It was moving left to right, there's a tiny bit of play in it, and when you get it up and running, all heck breaks loose. The faster you go, the worse it gets.

    Might not be the same problem, but maybe a direction to troubleshoot in?

    The 413 might have a couple of nylon washers to take up "lash" (I think that's the word) and quiet them down. That 758 I was working on? I was oiling near the cams, when out of the corner of my eye I saw something roll casually toward the back of the machine.... it was one of those washers, broken in half.

    Since you have two of them there, maybe you can compare the two to see if there are washers in one and not the other, or something else that's obvious, or not so obviously different?

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    Tammi,

    Looks like great minds think alike. About the second thing I did to this machine was replace the nylon thrust washer and set the lash. So I'm pretty sure it's not horizontal movement of the main shaft.

    I've had both of them stripped to their bare undies so to speak sitting side by side and there is nothing that visually stands out. Other than one is a noisy thing. I even took the noisy one to my LSMG and he said there was too much clearance on the vertical shaft. But when I reduced it the motor could hardly turn the machine, and the noise was still there. So I loosened it just till there's enough to run free.

    I've got a manual for the 538 and it's series of machines. Step by step diagnosis and adjustments for everything that moves. I need one for the 413 cos I sure can't sell it like this.

    I'm about to tell my wife we're gonna run the noisy one till what ever is making the noise breaks. Run it till it blows up.
    It probably won't though.

    Joe

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    Terry's site for slant-o-matics and such has info on the 400's. I've just about wrapped up the 416, and it's pretty quiet, so I have nothing to suggest. I'm sure you have already oiled everything that could take oil.
    This is far fetched....could the feed dogs be banging into the needle plate?

    Does it make the noise with and without the bobbin case?
    Last edited by k9dancer; 12-02-2012 at 04:39 PM.
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    The 416 I worked on had a nylon or plastic bobbin case. I think some came with metal. If it's the case, maybe a switch?
    Stephanie in Mena

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    The noise is there with the bobbin case in or out, the needle plate on or off. This 413 has the metal bobbin case, the other one the Apollo case. They don't interchange, I tried.

    Joe

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