Singer Potted Motor converted to a treadle, HC or motor TUTORIAL
#11
Power Poster
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,506
I had an aha moment. I knew the replacement throat plate screws fit the hole. Some old ones are cut square - the new screws have a lead end on them. So since that machine had the square ones it held the belt guard!!! YIPPIE. I won. Then I just replaced the throat plate screws with new ones. Now I have to find a spoked wheel and HC and I will be in hog heaven.
#12
Super Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8,091
Miriam,
The belt guard / bobbin winder from a clone will also fit.
The belt guard / bobbin winder mounting screws from a clone will fit the Singer 15 head.
I've successfully converted a 15-91 to a hang on motor version using all clone parts. It works great.
Sew Classic has the belt guard / bobbin winder and the spoked hand wheel. I don't know about the screws.
Query; why doesn't the Singer motor mount screws work? I forget at this point, it's been a long while since I did the switcheroo.
Joe
The belt guard / bobbin winder from a clone will also fit.
The belt guard / bobbin winder mounting screws from a clone will fit the Singer 15 head.
I've successfully converted a 15-91 to a hang on motor version using all clone parts. It works great.
Sew Classic has the belt guard / bobbin winder and the spoked hand wheel. I don't know about the screws.
Query; why doesn't the Singer motor mount screws work? I forget at this point, it's been a long while since I did the switcheroo.
Joe
#13
Power Poster
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,506
I just got it done and I talked to Jenny at Sew-classic. She also sells a belt guard for around $7 or $8 with a bobbin winder. It, too doesn't come with screws. Since I don't have a 15 clone for parts, I used the old throat plate screws - then replaced them with new.
The Singer motor mount screws are larger so don't fit the hole or the new belt guard holes don't line up - either way...
The Singer motor mount screws are larger so don't fit the hole or the new belt guard holes don't line up - either way...
#14
Power Poster
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,506
I found a few before pics of that old Singer 15. By the way, the 201 converts the same way.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470155[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470156[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470157[/ATTACH]
It is still has a bit of rough places but it now sews!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470155[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470156[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470157[/ATTACH]
It is still has a bit of rough places but it now sews!
#16
Power Poster
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,506
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470161[/ATTACH]
This took a LOT of TLC to get it to work. It sat around for a long time. When my sister was here last summer she wanted to try to learn to work on the 15's tensions. It was around and hadn't been worked on. Much to my surprise, we got it cleaned up and working. We tested the tension on another machine. Then when she left I thought why not try the bobbin area. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was. The internal parts that count were coated in dried up oil so it cleaned. I knew the motor was toast but I had no idea how to fix that. I chatted a bit with Mizkaki and she had some of the belt guards so I ordered some from her but I forgot about that machine. It took me 2 years but today it works. I realize there are still some rusty looking areas. It CAN be done. If at all possible try to save the machines with working potted motors. They are very nice machines and will serve you well. The ones I have done have been rescues. It was convert or scrap. I chose to fix. I'm pretty sure Grant would have this one gleaming by now.
This took a LOT of TLC to get it to work. It sat around for a long time. When my sister was here last summer she wanted to try to learn to work on the 15's tensions. It was around and hadn't been worked on. Much to my surprise, we got it cleaned up and working. We tested the tension on another machine. Then when she left I thought why not try the bobbin area. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was. The internal parts that count were coated in dried up oil so it cleaned. I knew the motor was toast but I had no idea how to fix that. I chatted a bit with Mizkaki and she had some of the belt guards so I ordered some from her but I forgot about that machine. It took me 2 years but today it works. I realize there are still some rusty looking areas. It CAN be done. If at all possible try to save the machines with working potted motors. They are very nice machines and will serve you well. The ones I have done have been rescues. It was convert or scrap. I chose to fix. I'm pretty sure Grant would have this one gleaming by now.
#17
Power Poster
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,506
Oh and here is a tutorial for fixing up the motors. Rain is a QB member - he shows up on occasion. http://vssmb.blogspot.com/search/label/Rewire I think you have to start at the bottom. Originally he sent out an email every day as he put his tutorial together. Thank you Rain.
Another blog: http://pappp.net/?p=1260
I'm thinking I saw other tutorials for potted motors on line as well - read up before you dig in or give up on what you have.
Another blog: http://pappp.net/?p=1260
I'm thinking I saw other tutorials for potted motors on line as well - read up before you dig in or give up on what you have.
#18
Power Poster
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,506
I keep finding more places that need clean up work. I should never sell this machine - way too much time in it but it is worth it - it's very nice machine. I could use it for stuff that would beat up a nicer machine and not feel bad. I don't think much can hold these old machines down if you are patient. I should read over Glenn's tutorial and fix the painted areas some time. Just sewing machine oil helped it a LOT.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Dedemac
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
5
01-17-2018 05:28 PM
Beautiful_Sound
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
10
10-30-2015 08:36 PM
bbsewbusy
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
5
04-19-2015 03:27 PM
ChattyKathy
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
3
03-16-2014 07:31 AM
vmaniqui
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
18
01-15-2014 12:30 PM