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Thread: Vintage Japanese 'Badged' sewing machine with fancy stitches

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    You have to be careful when buying these old colorful yet beautiful machines. A good percentage of them are left needle machines, like Miriam has talked about. Now, that's not a big deal if you're using it for general sewing. But left machines that can't center the needle are terrible at piecing as the fabric only rides over 1 feed dog to get a 1/4" seam. Not good at all for accuracy. I found that out the hard way on my last purchase:< It's a beauty but not what I need as a quilter. I need to look down at a centered needle with a walking foot too. But, here it is...
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    I though my pictures came up when I was posting. I'm so frustrated.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    ANY HELP APPRECIATED!! I have been given this machine and can't find any information or history on it. It is a Brother Riviera 1681-M. It does zz and a few decorative stitches and also shows how to monogram with it. It has the removable bed to make it a free arm for pants, sleaves, etc. Doea anyone have any information on it. Thanks in advance!!!!
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    What information are you looking for? You may want to open the top and check the camstack on it. My Brother of similar time period has a large crack in it and a little bird told me many of the 70's type Brothers have cracked camstacks. Many of them can still sew o.k. but the decorative stitches may be affected.

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    Thanks Candance. No I haven't taken the top off yet....got to get my courage up!! I wondered about its history...when made etc....opinions on if they are worthwhile to get working right, if in good working order if they are keepers...etc. The same person also gave me a Singer 237 and I love, love, love that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie67 View Post
    Thanks Candance. No I haven't taken the top off yet....got to get my courage up!! I wondered about its history...when made etc....opinions on if they are worthwhile to get working right, if in good working order if they are keepers...etc. The same person also gave me a Singer 237 and I love, love, love that one.
    I wouldn't put money into it if the camstack is cracked. You should check that first thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    I wouldn't put money into it if the camstack is cracked. You should check that first thing.
    The 237 would be the better machine.
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    The 237 works beautifully.....I love it!! It is a Keeper!

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    Chrystal, who made your machine? I have some of those cams, but don't know which machine they fit.


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    Myer Deluxe

    Wow! Just found this thread - super cool

    This is my new toy, I ended up back here searching around for other machines like it after Google turned up absolutely nothing. I was really surprised as I have seen a few Myer Deluxe models here over the past couple of years. I didn't think they were that uncommon.

    Anyway, I've never seen one exactly like this before so I thought I'd add mine to the gallery of other 'pretties'...

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    Amelia - that one has some class!
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    It looks like it not only can sew, but tell the weather and play music all at the same time.
    I love the fabric cord BTW. And does that have an unusual case?
    ~G~

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    Frudemoo that's a great machine! These early zigzags remind me of cars from 1958 or 59 when the chrome and fins were at their peak and were completely overdone.
    Miriam already posted a picture of the one Japanese fancy stitch machine I own. It's the orange Monkey Wards model she showed us. It's not overly fancy but works well.
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    Here is my Fleetwood Deluxe. I have only been able to narrow it down to being made in Japan because of the Japanese script cast into the underside of the body. it is a work horse, and sews brilliantly on fine fabrics as well as heavy canvas.
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    I have a couple with that big wide throat plate - one is a Capitol. Nice machine BUT I have a Singer nearly identical and it is a POJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Amelia - that one has some class!
    Hey, thanks Miriam I think so too... can't wait to give it a go, I think I'd better get dad to check the electrics on this one, it's got some 'red wire/green wire' action going on - he's busy rebuilding a vintage amplifier at the moment so I have to try and be patient

    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    It looks like it not only can sew, but tell the weather and play music all at the same time.
    I love the fabric cord BTW. And does that have an unusual case?
    ~G~
    I'm sure it can do all of those things Grant! The case is sitting behind it in the pic. Nothing terribly unusual except for being in such fantastic condition and such a nice colour. The handle is white vinyl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Frudemoo that's a great machine! These early zigzags remind me of cars from 1958 or 59 when the chrome and fins were at their peak and were completely overdone.
    Miriam already posted a picture of the one Japanese fancy stitch machine I own. It's the orange Monkey Wards model she showed us. It's not overly fancy but works well.
    Rodney
    Looks great Rodney! The other Myer Deluxe models I've seen have more chrome than this and are a deeper metallic sky blue. Pretty striking! Must have been the most common one released in Australia. There seems to be much more variety in the USA.

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    I highly regret giving my Wizard to the Goodwill this past November....what was I thinking! Actually I was in a full blown panic!! My oldest son called me the end of Sept to tell me he was getting married to his 6 month girlfriend AND that they were getting married the end of October. What?? Well you know what I thought immediately, haha. Well no, that wasn't it. But, as things evolved they decided on the day before Thanksgiving and then without a long story they were going to have a reception at our house for 60 people. Oh....my....god! I am not a hoarder and my house is usually passably ok, but I am a perfectionist about it if I am having people in. I am NEVER one to entertain. In fact most people would call me a hermit, lol. That is partly because if a speck of dust is out of place I am mortified (only if people are over not when it's just me and hubby). Well, I had sewing machines all over the house....dining room, family room, etc. then they told me they wanted to use the garage as a dance floor and live band. Aggghhhh! It was crammed to the ceiling. Anyway, full blown panic, decluttering like crazy, etc., etc. so my Wizard is gone. So sad. I lost 15 pounds in that 6 weeks of 18 hour days of cleaning and organizing like crazy. I don't recommend that as a form of weight loss though! Lol. It sewed beautifully after I cleaned her all up. But I got frustrated trying to find a reverse button. Looking at this pick now makes me kick myself!
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    Just thought I would turn your picture so everyone could see how pretty she was.Attachment 469966

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    And another Kenmore - a bit different - probably made in Italy - I do have a nice set of attachments and cams for it - the table is pretty cool too - it is sort of in storage though.
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    I really like the look of this Miriam

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post

    .... It is marked J-A 4 and was made by Maruzen/Jaguar.

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    Hey Joe
    I've just been sniffing around the Needlebar archive trying to read up on how this numbering system works. They have pictures of the Myer Deluxe model that I've seen around before but none like this one with the internal cam stack for other stitch patterns. Mine is stamped: JNZ 749258 NE J-A12
    So does that mean it can be identified from that number or is there more to it that you know of?
    Cheers,
    Amelia

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    I have had this one for a while. It was my grandmothers. I feel horrible for not even getting it out of the case while she was still alive. (I am grateful it was in my shed and not my home as we lost my home almost a year ago to fire) I can't find the model number on it anywhere. I see the motor model. But nothing to give me a clue of the machine model. It is a Bradford....

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    Nice machine, though it probably goes in this thread: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html.

    That bronze colored plaque on the front might have the model name/number. Or they are on a tag on the front right under the front of the bed, though most of these machines were just branded with any of a number of names.
    Mark

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    It's made in Japan. There are no numbers on the plaques.... There is this one underneath
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    Welcome Shimmer!!! I'm glad you were able to have that lovely machine!!! It is so exciting. Have you made it work yet? There is a lot of info on that thread Mark linked to - and do post a pic there, too. If you have questions feel free to post or pm. It looks very much like a Brother badged machine. Those are usually some of the best clones. It is up there with a Morse and an Atlas. Enjoy - the best thing you could do is to use that machine.

    Brother sewing machine serial numbers are coded to indicate the manufacture date of the machine.
    The letter and first number indicate the month and last digit of the year the machine was made.
    Because the first number in the serial number could correspond to a year in any decade, you need help
    from Brother International Corp., the machine's manufacturer, to determine when the machine
    was made. You can submit an email request through the company's website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frudemoo View Post
    Hey Joe
    I've just been sniffing around the Needlebar archive trying to read up on how this numbering system works. They have pictures of the Myer Deluxe model that I've seen around before but none like this one with the internal cam stack for other stitch patterns. Mine is stamped: JNZ 749258 NE J-A12
    So does that mean it can be identified from that number or is there more to it that you know of?
    Cheers,
    Amelia
    Amelia,

    I got the J-A number chart I'm using from the Yahoo Japanese machine group. J-A 12 was made by Brother.
    The other alpha numeric group is probably the serial number.

    Joe

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