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Thread: Vintage Japanese 'Badged' sewing machine with fancy stitches

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Welcome Shimmer!!! I'm glad you were able to have that lovely machine!!! It is so exciting. Have you made it work yet? There is a lot of info on that thread Mark linked to - and do post a pic there, too. If you have questions feel free to post or pm. It looks very much like a Brother badged machine. Those are usually some of the best clones. It is up there with a Morse and an Atlas. Enjoy - the best thing you could do is to use that machine.

    Brother sewing machine serial numbers are coded to indicate the manufacture date of the machine.
    The letter and first number indicate the month and last digit of the year the machine was made.
    Because the first number in the serial number could correspond to a year in any decade, you need help
    from Brother International Corp., the machine's manufacturer, to determine when the machine
    was made. You can submit an email request through the company's website.
    You're so smart I can't get it threaded proper. It sounds awesome! Just have some threading issues. That's why I am trying to find a model number to see if I can get a diagram for threading it.

    My hubby wants to call it Belle Aire....says it's the same color as his uncle's 57 Chevy

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    Here's a link to a Brother HA3B5 machine on eBay that is just like yours:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brot...-/201059188439
    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlmack View Post
    Here's a link to a Brother HA3B5 machine on eBay that is just like yours:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brot...-/201059188439

    Thank you so much! Now need to find the manual or how to thread it. I think I'm really close but the top thread underneath isn't tight.....

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    Shimmer,

    Try this link for a manual. http://ascrapoflife.blogspot.com/201...er-sewing.html

    Cathy
    Last edited by Mizkaki; 04-06-2014 at 12:37 PM.
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    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by shimmer View Post
    You're so smart I can't get it threaded proper. It sounds awesome! Just have some threading issues. That's why I am trying to find a model number to see if I can get a diagram for threading it.

    My hubby wants to call it Belle Aire....says it's the same color as his uncle's 57 Chevy
    Actually there is a Belle Aire - it is a red machine. This MANUAL is the manual you need for that machine: http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...al-rotated.pdf
    Muv has a video for a Singer 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tiiZ51J7g
    The clones should thread the needle right to left - some of the Singer 15s thread left to right but they are the same beast and the same manual. It is unlikely that you will find a specific manual for a clone.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Shimmer,

    Try this link for a manual. http://ascrapoflife.blogspot.com/201...er-sewing.html

    Cathy
    The machine for that manual has the tension in the front, so it might not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlmack View Post
    The machine for that manual has the tension in the front, so it might not work.
    That manual works for clones with front tensions - sorta.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Mark,

    You are correct. Not sure why I didn't catch that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlmack View Post
    The machine for that manual has the tension in the front, so it might not work.
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Miriam,

    Most class 15 (clones) machines thread from left to right. The Singer 19-88 thru -91 right to left.

    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    The clones should thread the needle right to left - some of the Singer 15s thread left to right but they are the same beast and the same manual. It is unlikely that you will find a specific manual for a clone.
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    What did I do get it the other way around??? sigh - getting old............ it was exactly what I meant. I'm thinking the old 15-30s go the other way.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Miriam,

    Yup, the 15-30 threads left to right. Seems we giggled over this same thing in the past. GGG

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    What did I do get it the other way around??? sigh - getting old............ it was exactly what I meant. I'm thinking the old 15-30s go the other way.
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    I have trouble with left and right some days. Have you ever noticed that some Singer throat plates have arrows on them??? I sort of wish they all did. I guess a magic marker would do the trick...
    Last edited by miriam; 04-06-2014 at 04:26 PM.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Amelia,

    I got the J-A number chart I'm using from the Yahoo Japanese machine group. J-A 12 was made by Brother.
    The other alpha numeric group is probably the serial number.

    Joe
    Thanks Joe, sounds like there's another group I have to join

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    Very nice way to display your machines KenZ.
    Both machines you posted look great!
    Rodney
    "Neglect to oil the machine will shorten its life and cause you

    trouble and annoyance" Quote from Singer Model 99 Manual

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    I've always wanted one of the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel Monty machines. Very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenmoreRulesAll View Post
    I've always wanted one of the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel Monty machines. Very nice.
    What are those?
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    "Neglect to oil the machine will shorten its life and cause you

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    Sorry, I typed in my own language. I call a Montgomery Ward machine a 'Monty' and the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel machines are two different models with the MW badge.

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    Monty makes sense now. What does the 7 jewel and 21 jewel mean?
    Sorry I'm dense.
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    trouble and annoyance" Quote from Singer Model 99 Manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenmoreRulesAll View Post
    Sorry, I typed in my own language. I call a Montgomery Ward machine a 'Monty' and the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel machines are two different models with the MW badge.
    Hmm, saying Monty is quicker than Monkey Wards which is what I grew up hearing. Love that blue machine.

    Cari

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    Was just given this machine by a friend who found it in a house he bought. From says HomeMark 775490 JA26; bottom says Brother M6826. Came with a box of cams (one missing), a manual that never mentions a model, and assorted sewing "stuff" I haven't messed with. Can't find much info so anything appreciated. Name:  20141107_165531.jpg
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    It was built by Brother in the late '60s, not much more to tell.

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    Wow! Miriam thanks for sharing, I love the first one - may have to take up collecting vintage machines myself!

    When your going thru hell - keep going Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookw0rm View Post
    Was just given this machine by a friend who found it in a house he bought. From says HomeMark 775490 JA26; bottom says Brother M6826. Came with a box of cams (one missing), a manual that never mentions a model, and assorted sewing "stuff" I haven't messed with. Can't find much info so anything appreciated. Name:  20141107_165531.jpg
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    You won't find a manual for a specific machine most likely so you are right the manual is even generic. Brother badged a lot of machines. Some times you will see markings on the bottom. I have an Electro Grand with 'Brother' cast in raised letters on the hand wheel it's inside where you can't see it. Usually there is some indication of the maker on the bottom of the machine. I saw a new one the other day it said Dragon.

    The two buttons on the front are there to hold the zig zag lever in place if you want uniform stitches or if you want you can move the zz lever back and forth and modulate the stitches but you have to have perfect timing for it to look like much. The big button is reverse - outside it is a stitch length dial. Often I see the reverse button frozen up. It isn't the button frozen it is the works behind it inside the machine.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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