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    Sharon and others,

    Most toy sewing machines take the 24x1 needle. A good sub is the DCX1F needle. The 20x1 needle is way too long.

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    I always just go with, "this one? it's been down in the garage for months!" unless I actually get caught unloading it, in which case I just batt my eyelashes and cook a steak for dinner.
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    Sewing machine? What sewing machine???

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    Yup. Weighed it in the case. Because that's how I have to carry it!
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    Laura,

    Are you weighing the case, foot control, and accessories, too?

    Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    That is a ROAD TRIP starter for somebody....
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post

    Cute machine! I like the box that this machine sets on too. Did this machine have a lid for the box? Almost looks like it should.

    I also like your quilted placemats!
    Monica, are you talking about the Pfaff the Damascus is sitting on? I love that machine, always have! It is a great comparison! Those TSM's (Toy Sewing Machines) are so tiny, but it is hard to tell how little they are without the comparison to a full sized machine!

    Thank you, that placemat pattern is really simple.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    That is a ROAD TRIP starter for somebody....
    I think that would be a doable road trip for Charlee!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    That looks sort of like Singers's Model 12 or 13, but different? Cathy?

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Nancy,

    As usual I'm out of town at my Mom's until Friday.
    I have the Glenda Thomas encyclopedia of toy machines and will look at it and get back to you.
    I do have needles that will work.

    Cathy
    Cathy, I can't wait to hear back on this machine! Don't forget to look at the book when you get home, or I will remind you! I have some 24x1 needles for my toy Singer (Sew Handy). I need a screw, though, to hold the needle in! I have nothing that small - it takes a really small screw, much smaller that the needle clamp screw on most machines.

    I will bring her with me the next time I come over so we can find the appropriate screw!

    Also, when looking at DamascusAnnie's site, her toy Damascus has a spring above the tension disks, that I am missing?

    Nancy

    Thank you everyone, I think those toy machines are just so cute! Besides, they take up no room!
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplefiend View Post
    Nancy,
    I think that most toy machines take a 20x1 needle. Your new toy is in very good condition, too bad its missing the needle clamp/screw.
    I have the twin to your Pfaff 1222E, love it for piecing and quilting.
    Sharon W.
    Sharon, how long have you owned the Pfaff 1222e? That was my first - well second, but we can't count the first sewing machine I owned as it was a Brother that drove me nuts trying to get the tension right! But, I owe that Brother because if it hadn't been such a lousey machine, I'd have never bought the Pfaff, which I couldn't afford at the time! I still love that machine, but he gets used mostly to finish bindings now as I don't hand sew bindings anymore!

    Nancy
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    Nancy,

    It's made by the American Buttonhole Sewing Machine Co.
    Pat can probably chime in here with more info.
    PAT where are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    That looks sort of like Singers's Model 12 or 13, but different? Cathy?

    Nancy
    Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Nancy,

    It's made by the American Buttonhole Sewing Machine Co.
    Pat can probably chime in here with more info.
    PAT where are you?
    What? I never heard of the American Buttonhole Sewing Machine Co! How interesting! I will be looking that one up! What a funny name for a company!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
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    Well, this is what I got today for $30. The gal that had her wanted $40, but she is missing her needle and the screw to hold the needle in! Isn't she cute! Do any of you know anything about this toy sewing machine? She was made by National Sewing Machine Company out of Belvedere, Illinois somewhere in the early 1920's. The lady that had her had been given this machine by her grandmother who got it new and used it to make doll clothes. We figured it out and it had to be made in the 1920's or a little earlier.
    According to Thomas, this toy was advertised in the Sears Christmas catalog of 1936. She estimates the dates of manufacture to be 1920s-1930s, and shows variants badged as 'American Girl' and 'Eldredgette'. (This is from Book II; can't put my hand on Book I. )

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    Pat,
    I'll check book two when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfroggg View Post
    According to Thomas, this toy was advertised in the Sears Christmas catalog of 1936. She estimates the dates of manufacture to be 1920s-1930s, and shows variants badged as 'American Girl' and 'Eldredgette'. (This is from Book II; can't put my hand on Book I. )

    pat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    It's made by the American Buttonhole Sewing Machine Co.
    Pat can probably chime in here with more info.
    PAT where are you?
    I think it's 'American Buttonhole, Overseaming and Sewing Machine Co.' (American BHO and Sewing Machine Co), established in 1867 in Philadelphia, which manufactured sewing machines till around 1896. I'm not sure about the model number (would be nice if they'd taken a picture of the front!), but there's a sketch of a similar-looking machine on the Smithsonian site (dated 1874). If 15995 is the serial number, this machine *may* date to 1870.

    http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...ges/image3.htm

    Here's a nice description (from somewhere around 1870-74):

    http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...ges/image1.htm

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    Pat,

    I knew you'd have much more info than I had.



    Quote Originally Posted by pfroggg View Post
    I think it's 'American Buttonhole, Overseaming and Sewing Machine Co.' (American BHO and Sewing Machine Co), established in 1867 in Philadelphia, which manufactured sewing machines till around 1896. I'm not sure about the model number (would be nice if they'd taken a picture of the front!), but there's a sketch of a similar-looking machine on the Smithsonian site (dated 1874). If 15995 is the serial number, this machine *may* date to 1870.

    http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...ges/image3.htm

    Here's a nice description (from somewhere around 1870-74):

    http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...ges/image1.htm

    pat
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    The "American" is about 3 hours away from me.... I'll pick it up and babysit if you'll pay the gas!!

    I stand corrected on the Damascus toy!! I would have thought 40's... but no matter what, it's a cutie!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    The "American" is about 3 hours away from me.... I'll pick it up and babysit if you'll pay the gas!!

    I stand corrected on the Damascus toy!! I would have thought 40's... but no matter what, it's a cutie!!
    I would have thought 1940s too, but the Sears catalog establishes it to at least before 1936. I will try to track down Thomas I to see if she has anything else.

    Re the American, check to see if it has a shuttle and bobbin! May be hard to find...

    pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Monica, are you talking about the Pfaff the Damascus is sitting on? I love that machine, always have! It is a great comparison! Those TSM's (Toy Sewing Machines) are so tiny, but it is hard to tell how little they are without the comparison to a full sized machine!

    Thank you, that placemat pattern is really simple.

    Nancy
    No not the Pfaff...... I was asking about the Damascus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfroggg View Post
    According to Thomas, this toy was advertised in the Sears Christmas catalog of 1936. She estimates the dates of manufacture to be 1920s-1930s, and shows variants badged as 'American Girl' and 'Eldredgette'. (This is from Book II; can't put my hand on Book I. )

    pat
    LOL my coffee just went all over that keyboard.... I read "according to Thomas" and immediately thought are we quoting the scriptures now, and we even have book I & II.

    Ok, I should stay quiet and drink my coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    I stand corrected on the Damascus toy!! I would have thought 40's... but no matter what, it's a cutie!!
    Ok, I found Thomas Book I. She mentions that the 'American Girl' variant was offered in Montgomery Ward catalogs from 1928 through 1938, but that the 'Damascus' variant appeared in the MW catalogs of 1939, 1940, and 1941. So these little guys apparently were made into the 1940s (she gives the Damascus manufacture dates as 1930s-1940s). I'm not sure of the production dates of the full-size Damascus machines, but National may have introduced this variant to coincide with some promotion of its larger cousin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    LOL my coffee just went all over that keyboard.... I read "according to Thomas" and immediately thought are we quoting the scriptures now, and we even have book I & II.

    Ok, I should stay quiet and drink my coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    lol my coffee just went all over that keyboard.... I read "according to thomas" and immediately thought are we quoting the scriptures now, and we even have book i & ii.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfroggg View Post
    ....it's 'American Buttonhole, Overseaming and Sewing Machine Co.' (American BHO and Sewing Machine Co), established in 1867 in Philadelphia, which manufactured sewing machines till around 1896. I'm not sure about the model number...
    pat


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    I think it’s called a model “No. 1”. Here’s a look at the front of mine...


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    [QUOTE=pfroggg;5078851]Ok, I found Thomas Book I. She mentions that the 'American Girl' variant was offered in Montgomery Ward catalogs from 1928 through 1938, but that the 'Damascus' variant appeared in the MW catalogs of 1939, 1940, and 1941. So these little guys apparently were made into the 1940s (she gives the Damascus manufacture dates as 1930s-1940s). I'm not sure of the production dates of the full-size Damascus machines, but National may have introduced this variant to coincide with some promotion of its larger cousin.

    Thank you Pat and Cathy! Very interesting! So my little Damascus was made anywhere between the 1920's to the 1940's? If book 1 estimates the dates between 1920's to 1930's, then book 2 says 1930's to 1940's, I am going to go with Book 1 since according to the owner his grandmother made doll clothes with the machine in the 1920's after getting the machine as a gift. If you guys see in Book 2 that for sure my machine was made later than the 1920's, I want to know! This is fun!

    Oh Cathy, according to ISMACS needle site, the Damascus TSM takes a 16x1 needle, which to me would be way too big?

    Nancy
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