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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts
    I am addicted!! Looking for a FW but called on a nice looking Nechhi in a cabinet. DH will NOT understand but some of you do, right???? Love to have a Necchi but don't know if DH will blow his top over this machine. I would love to look at it in person. I hear so much good stuff about them. It has a nice cabinet, too.
    DSIL was looking for a machine for 8 year old DGD to learn to sew on and found a Necci 503FA at a local thrift shop for $15. We need a manual for it. Does anyone know where that could be found. Also, wonder if you could give me a little background on this machine. thanks.

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    Hi everyone,

    Does anyone know if the motor for a 201-2 can be put on a model 15 singer? I'm making a frankenmachine with stuff I have at home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneK
    Hi everyone,

    Does anyone know if the motor for a 201-2 can be put on a model 15 singer? I'm making a frankenmachine with stuff I have at home?
    Yes, Unless that machine's motor is meant for European electricity. My 201-3 came with that type of motor, and it sits in my box of motors for now.

    Frankenmachines are fun! I took a spoke wheel off one machine to put on my 15-90 so that it could be used in a treadle. After that I learned here from Purplefiend that I didn't need to change the wheel. She talked about her 237 that she uses in a treadle. From her sharing this bit of information, I realized my 201-3 could be used in a treadle with the wheel that it came with.

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    DSIL was looking for a machine for 8 year old DGD to learn to sew on and found a Necci 503FA at a local thrift shop for $15. We need a manual for it. Does anyone know where that could be found. Also, wonder if you could give me a little background on this machine. thanks.[/quote]

    Try searching online. Many manuals can be downloaded for free or little.

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    Yesterday, DH and I found an old Singer in a nice bentwood case. The electrics on the Singer are shot, so I'm going to put my Red Eye HC in the case and save the old one for parts.

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    [quote=QuiltnCowgirl][quote=kwendt][quote=QuiltnCowgirl][quote=Weedwoman
    My basic understanding of the series 15's:
    15-91 = electric motor - no belt - gear driven
    15-90 & 15-30 = electric motor - belt driven
    15-98 = crank
    15-96 = treadle
    (there are some other series 15 models #'s - these, I think, are the most "common")[/quote]

    The Singer 15s:
    15-88 no motor or handcrank
    15-89 handcrank
    15-90 belted (external)motor
    15-91 built-in motor (potted)


    And here is the information for the 201s:
    201-1 is an original treadle
    201-2 has the "potted motor"
    201-3 has an external motor
    201-4 is an original handcrank

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by whenpigsfly

    Not around Houston!
    CL's prices for "antiques" are ridiculously high (a 201 for $250; a 66 treadle in iffy condition for $140, etc., etc., )
    Every treadle I have bought off of Craigslist was advertised for $100 to $150. The most I have paid is $75 and most of them I got for $50 to $65. They just don't sell for what most people originally want.

    Nancy
    Are you able to get a lower price because of flaws in the machine/treadle/cabinet? If not that, then how?

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    Nancy, You got a white FW for $250! That is excellent! All the blacks I have seen around the Bay area on CLs go for $250 on up, with most being around $350. I saw a beautiful black (don't know what #) in an antique store this weekend for $450. Lucky girl!

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    Would you pay $100 for a FW that doesn't run? Seller says he's "tried everything I can think of" to get the thing going. Don't know if that includes replacing the motor. What else besides a dead motor or bad connection could be the problem?

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    [quote=Randa][quote=Crossstitcher][quote=BoJangles][quote=vintagemotif][quote=vintagemotif]
    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif

    I have been sewing with my NVF all afternoon and the reverse doesn't work...more like a sew in place button. LOL! Oh, well. It needed some tension attention, but after a few rows, I got it worked out and it runs great! Even with the old belt! Just needed some oil....a lot of oil!! She was dry!
    Randa,
    I was thinking about your reverse not working last night while I was cleaning this section of my NVF. Does your machine have a spring attached to the reverse mechanism (inside)? There should be a spring. If not, that could be why yours doesn't go in reverse. I haven't tried mine with fabric yet to see if it reverses, but it looks like it should. I'm still cleaning and oiling the parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whenpigsfly
    Would you pay $100 for a FW that doesn't run? Seller says he's "tried everything I can think of" to get the thing going. Don't know if that includes replacing the motor. What else besides a dead motor or bad connection could be the problem?
    I would buy it and then I would buy Dave McCullam's book and DVD (I already have both and I highly recommend this for anyone who wants to fix their own FW). Here is the link:

    http://www.featherweight221.com/fwrx/index.html

    His book is written so the average Joe can understand but it's so very detailed in it's contents. I also have the DVD and it's also great to be able to watch him as he is explaining what he is doing.

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    Hello all,

    I am still in the process of creating my Frankenmachine. Two questions. First if my 15-88 is a treadle machine can I convert it to a handcrank? If so, where do I get the handcrank and is there a tutorial or website I can go to to find out how to do this? I don't have room for multiple treadles Second - my 201-2 has a problem with the tension...I've got it all assembled correctly according to the manual, but the whole assembly falls out of the machine when I try to sew. Is there a part that holds the tension assembly into the machine arm that I'm missing or is it just totally gone off?
    Thanks,
    Jane

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneK
    Hello all,

    I am still in the process of creating my Frankenmachine. Two questions. First if my 15-88 is a treadle machine can I convert it to a handcrank? If so, where do I get the handcrank and is there a tutorial or website I can go to to find out how to do this? I don't have room for multiple treadles Second - my 201-2 has a problem with the tension...I've got it all assembled correctly according to the manual, but the whole assembly falls out of the machine when I try to sew. Is there a part that holds the tension assembly into the machine arm that I'm missing or is it just totally gone off?
    Thanks,
    Jane
    If you post a picture that may help us understand what is falling out or off the machine.
    Yes a handcrank can be added as long as it has a spoked wheel and mount (for a motor), that is what Nancy stated she has done. Some folks have modified the solid wheels, but that looks like too much work for my liking.
    Billy should have a HC and he should be able to tell you how to add it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by JaneK
    Hello all,

    I am still in the process of creating my Frankenmachine. Two questions. First if my 15-88 is a treadle machine can I convert it to a handcrank? If so, where do I get the handcrank and is there a tutorial or website I can go to to find out how to do this? I don't have room for multiple treadles Second - my 201-2 has a problem with the tension...I've got it all assembled correctly according to the manual, but the whole assembly falls out of the machine when I try to sew. Is there a part that holds the tension assembly into the machine arm that I'm missing or is it just totally gone off?
    Thanks,
    Jane
    If you post a picture that may help us understand what is falling out or off the machine.
    Yes a handcrank can be added as long as it has a spoked wheel and mount (for a motor), that is what Nancy stated she has done. Some folks have modified the solid wheels, but that looks like too much work for my liking.
    Billy should have a HC and he should be able to tell you how to add it.

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    Hello, Here are photos of the 15-88 treadle machine head that i want to convert to a handcrank. It seems to have a spoked hand wheel , and is the spot on the back, the hole, a spot to attach the crank?
    Jane
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    [quote=vintagemotif][quote=QuiltnCowgirl][quote=kwendt]
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltnCowgirl
    Quote Originally Posted by Weedwoman
    My basic understanding of the series 15's:
    15-91 = electric motor - no belt - gear driven
    15-90 & 15-30 = electric motor - belt driven
    15-98 = crank
    15-96 = treadle
    (there are some other series 15 models #'s - these, I think, are the most "common")
    The Singer 15s:
    15-88 no motor or handcrank
    15-89 handcrank
    15-90 belted (external)motor
    15-91 built-in motor (potted)


    And here is the information for the 201s:
    201-1 is an original treadle
    201-2 has the "potted motor"
    201-3 has an external motor
    201-4 is an original handcrank
    Thank you! I knew that I had some of it learned, but more to go...

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    I purchased this from a thrift store yesterday. Found it under a table waaaay in the back. They said it was "as is" and wanted $50. I said the handle on the case was broken and would be hard to carry would they take $30. It came home with me. Plugged it in and when I figured out how to use the foot pedal, it WORKED! Don't know how to thread it and don't know what the attachment is for so maybe you can help.

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    The other pressing issue at my house is the tension assembly for my 201-2. The whole thing falls completely out of the machine when attempting to sew, it's not anchored at all. Am I missing a piece to hold it on the machine arm? It isn't right either,it sticks when re-assembling and thread is totally stuck in it when attempting to thread the tensioner is too tight and erratic when trying to select a tension. Do I need a new one? See photos
    Thanks Jane
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    I just won a FW off Ebay. Forgooten I had bid on it and firgured I was outbid anyway. Waiting on DH to wake up so I can use the debit card. WOOHOO!!!! Yesterday, saw one in a store for $320 and will pay approx $135 for this. Dilemma: Do I tell DH about the Necchi that I want to buy also? HE WILL flip his lid and think I've lost it completely. What to do? Waht to do??? Happy about the bid.
    Edit: I have lost it when it comes to vintage machines. Have my mom on the lookout for a FW also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whenpigsfly
    Would you pay $100 for a FW that doesn't run? Seller says he's "tried everything I can think of" to get the thing going. Don't know if that includes replacing the motor. What else besides a dead motor or bad connection could be the problem?
    I would if it is in good cosmetic condition (not a rust bucket). If the motor runs, but the foot doesn't move, the bobbin winder knob on the wheel might be set to wind the bobbin. If the motor is shot, you can probably find an original replacement or even a new motor (which I have done). I replaced it myself on one of my FWs and it now runs so fast, sometimes the thread spool will come flying off. I don't think there is much else that can "break" on a FW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts
    I just won a FW off Ebay. .... will pay approx $135 for this. .

    I've seen them sell on Ebay for $250 on up to $600. What was there about this one that made the bidders ignore it???

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    Vintagemotif, here's pictures of the motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whenpigsfly
    Quote Originally Posted by chris_quilts
    I just won a FW off Ebay. .... will pay approx $135 for this. .

    I've seen them sell on Ebay for $250 on up to $600. What was there about this one that made the bidders ignore it???
    I don't know. It is in working condition according to the seller. Maybe it got overlooked somehow. I made the winning bid last nite at about 10 pm and it just closed about 1.5 hours ago.

    Edit: Just looked at it again. Comes with accessories but can't remmber if it said anything about the manual. Case is in good condition but not pristine. Who knows?? Maybe this was meant to be mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossstitcher
    Vintagemotif, here's pictures of the motor.
    Trish
    Trish, I don't have one like that with the pin. What machine gets that? I have the standard motors.
    You should ask Billy, I bet he has one or Miz Johnny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneK
    The other pressing issue at my house is the tension assembly for my 201-2. The whole thing falls completely out of the machine when attempting to sew, it's not anchored at all. Am I missing a piece to hold it on the machine arm? It isn't right either,it sticks when re-assembling and thread is totally stuck in it when attempting to thread the tensioner is too tight and erratic when trying to select a tension. Do I need a new one? See photos
    Thanks Jane
    Eeks! You better talk to Billy about this one! Not a pretty picture. Seems you are missing something.

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