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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    Hey, here's a Japanese 15 called Household... And another called Edison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Feet for any low shank machine will fit the FW....power cord attached? What do you mean? Do you mean you need a Foot Pedal and power cord combination? Those you can get online at April 1930s or Sew-Classic.
    Or I have them here in my studio, I just got a huge shipment of parts in today so I am stocked up and ready to run again. Is your FW the later version with the cord and all hardwired into the machine? I have those also and the White belts for the White FW's.

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    Hales Crescent

    Davis and some other SM manufacturers would put whatever name the buyer wanted with an order of 100+- machines. Going by Davis serial numbers, I would roughly date your machine to 1906 . Attached is dated Davis machines, numbers beginning with "D" are Sears Minnesota's. Some badged Davis machines have this "D" also, which seems to be a smart way to mark the machine for needles and parts if "Davis" is not already on the slide plate. Good luck with the cabinet restoration and if part of the bobbin winder is missing, I might have some odd parts layin around if needed.
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    Jon and Monica, I think you are probably on the right track. This machine takes a very long needle. I haven't taken the needle out yet to measure - don't want to take a chance on ruining it - but, it appears to be a Boye 10 or Davis long. The whole machine reminds me of my Davis and my Two Spools. The cabinet is made like a Davis or National Two Spools cabinet - more a square cut, solid, sturdy. Right now the cabinet is dismantled until DH gets it fixed. DH repaired the broken treadle iron already! This is the second Hales Crescent I have seen. There is another one for sale in an antique shop in the town of El Dorado, which means it is not that unusual! This makes me wonder why ISMACS doesn't even list the Hales Crescent on their needle site? I am doubting at this point that this machine is from the Johnson, Flanders, and Company factory of Cresent machines?

    Oh the serial number is 1841671, and it is on the slide plate like a Davis - instead of on the bed of the machine somwhere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack View Post
    Hey, here's a Japanese 15 called Household... And another called Edison.
    The bottom machine was built by Koyu and if you take the faceplate off and it should have an "SK" trademark on the back of it. If it does then parts of the machine if not all of the machine was subcontracted to the SK Sharma company for manufacture in India. I have a lot of information on this company and have done tons of research into the Japanese 15's and how to know who made them and dating them.

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    Hales Crescent sewing machine

    Sold by "Hale's Good Good's", attached is add from 1910.
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=2023,2749104

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post
    Sold by "Hale's Good Good's", attached is add from 1910.
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=2023,2749104
    Hale Bros, multiple CA locations, large Dept store.

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    I found and bought a 503A today at a shop on the way home from a college vuisit with younger DD. $66 plus tax but no cams with it, only 1 bobbin and a couple of feet. I did, however, also get a manual plus a boatload of papers with the machine. It also came with the power cord. At the same shop I also picked up 2 long rectangular metal containers filled with vintage sewing machine parts with lots of screws. Hoping some of those screws are for Singers since those seem to find me and follow me home. Left a beautiful 66 Redeye there in a fabulous cabinet. If I'd had the money, wouldn't have given a fig about what DH would've said but didn't have the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51 View Post
    In the antique and vintage sewing machine community if it does not have the Singer logo it is called a copy. A clone is a Chinese reproduction that has the Singer logo on it. Some of the Chinese machines were allotted by Singer and a lot of them are counterfeit. But if it looks like a Singer 15 with the dial on the faceplate and a different name on it then it is a copy, or better known as a Japanese 15. I have lots of company records from the Japanese based companies that made them and even in their records they are called "Model 15's". And I have probably the most information about the Japanese machines than anyone on the planet.

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    I learned that at Needlebar too...and I knew that when you were on Needlebar, you were gathering Japanese information...didn't know how far you'd gotten with it, didn't matter much really to me, but those of us that don't want to pretend that we're experts are actually ok with calling them "clones"...it works for us and we know what each other are talking about.

    All I was trying to say before is that not every machine made in Japan is a 15...many aren't. Even having the tension on the faceplate does not necessarily make the machine a 15....it needs to also have the body style.
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    [QUOTE=BoJangles;4662871]
    Quote Originally Posted by jlhmnj View Post

    Jon and Monica, I think you are probably on the right track. This machine takes a very long needle. I haven't taken the needle out yet to measure - don't want to take a chance on ruining it - but, it appears to be a Boye 10 or Davis long. The whole machine reminds me of my Davis and my Two Spools. The cabinet is made like a Davis or National Two Spools cabinet - more a square cut, solid, sturdy. Right now the cabinet is dismantled until DH gets it fixed. DH repaired the broken treadle iron already! This is the second Hales Crescent I have seen. There is another one for sale in an antique shop in the town of El Dorado, which means it is not that unusual! This makes me wonder why ISMACS doesn't even list the Hales Crescent on their needle site? I am doubting at this point that this machine is from the Johnson, Flanders, and Company factory of Cresent machines?

    Oh the serial number is 1841671, and it is on the slide plate like a Davis - instead of on the bed of the machine somwhere!
    Nancy
    Nancy, Most Davis cabinets have a distinct look over other cabinets that where made during that time period. The wood used for the top was thicker than most woods used on other cabinets tops . Here is a picture of mine that shows the section of the thick wood. Some collectors has stated that they are able to spot a Davis cabinet across a room just because of this unique feature.
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    So, I was playing on the new board and trying to get accustomed to the various search features. I FINALLY had the courage to read through the dismantling and cleaning tutes that Billy made.

    I don't know a thing about these vintage machines, or well any machine actually. I posted the pics of mom's FW probably 20-30 pages ago. Do I have to take the tensioner off if I want to clean everything up? I roll the wheel towards me and the needle goes up and down. Everything seems to move smoothly, it just looks kinda gunky. I REALLY don't want to have to take off every single thing. I'm so scared of losing something. I can use a muffin tin or labels or something, but I'm just not sure I want to take off everything.

    Also, if you take off the spool pin thing from the top of the FW and look in there, is there a way to get to those pieces in there? They seem to run the whole width of the machine, but the spool pin is only so big.

    Also, what are inspection plates? I have a 66 that's very clean, but will occasionally need oil, then I have mom's FW that needs cleaned up.
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