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Thread: Fleece Bad For the Environment/Planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maviskw View Post
    I think we have to go back to the beginning of what we drink. What happened to good old water from the tap. Our cities spend a lot of money making our water safe to drink, and we go and buy more from the store in these plastic bottles, and it is way more expensive than gasoline.

    We have to get rid of all these plastic bottles and plastic bags. They are just cruel to our animal life, and in turn, cruel to us when we use these animals for our food.
    More cities and towns then you can imagine have water unfit to drink or use in cooking. May be safe but tastes like dirty socks. Getting rid of plastic isn't going to happen , way too much political donation money comes from the manufactures, millions of jobs at stake, and consumers will not go back to glass shampoo bottles.
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    I agree--there needs to be more research. Everyday there is some new article about something we eat or use that warns us about its danger. After awhile there won't be anything we should eat or use that is good for us or the environment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tartan View Post
    I have heard about the micro beads in body wash effecting fish. I think more research needs to be done on the fleece. I imagine with any thing that is not iodegradable there is going to be some problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mckwilter View Post
    We had to replace our septic system about 10 years ago. We chose to have the water that drains from the washer go into the yard to water the grass and bushes. It does not go down the drain and into the septic system. If you have a big yard, consider diverting the water from the washer into your yard, especially if you are in an area that rations water.
    The average life expectancy of a septic system is only 20-30 years, so replacement is not unusual. By having your graywater divert to the lawn, you're putting loose plastic fibers directly into the food chain instead of containing them underground with the rest of the sludge to be pumped and disposed of as contaminents. Something to think about.
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    Wash water, kitchen water, and bath water are called gray water. We are on a septic system too and have our gray water diverted to be emptied by different pipes and not in the tank. We had to get approval from the powers that be and was given the go ahead to only have sewage go to the septic tank. The septic tank empties into the same pipe as the gray water, I don't understand and really don't want to.
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    I read a story many years ago in Readers Digest. It was titled "How not to get cancer"

    1. Do not breathe
    2. Do not eat
    3. Do not drink

    etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaDee View Post
    I read a story many years ago in Readers Digest. It was titled "How not to get cancer"

    1. Do not breathe
    2. Do not eat
    3. Do not drink

    etc, etc.
    Exactly!
    My husband had a friend with cancer in his 20's, and he went through many treatments, and did recover. He told my husband that everything gives us cancer. They think cell phones may give us brain tumors, milk is filled with antibiotics, and growth hormones, egss use to be the worst thing we could eat to cause heart problems, but now it's ok, they say that our microwaves are giving us who knows what, etc. etc. , but one that really gets to me is some vaccines that contain things used from babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggersmom View Post
    We had fleece long before we had plastic, didn't we?

    I agree with more research, one study can be biased.
    It is cotton fleece, as in sweatshirts. Don't be too hasty not using/banning, what do you think polyester is? Won't be much out their to buy for wearables either. About everything has polyester in it, unless you are buying, 100% cotton, silk, linen, flax. I find it hard to find things to wear because of it. Polyester doesn't breathe and is HOT to wear.

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    I remember when they were saying that charcoal causes cancer. (in rats) And for it to cause a problem in humans you would have to eat like 50 lbs of BBQ's meat in one day every day for it to effect you. Why do they keep trying to scare us into not using things that are also "green" How much water do you think you would have to drink per day for how many years for it to have an effect? Don't let those environmentalists scare you. Quilt on, my friend, quilt on.

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    It is not charcoal that is implicated in carcinogens from grilling meat; it is the HCAs produced by the combination of meat and high heat. The American Institute for Cancer mentions this on their website under "Science of Grilling":
    http://preventcancer.aicr.org/site/N...s_iv_ctrl=2303

    The purpose of science is not to scare people. It is to provide information. People are free to evaluate the quality of that information and to choose to act or not act on it.

    In terms of quilting, I can understand how polyester fleece fibers contribute to pollution of the environment. As a consumer, I choose not to buy polyester fleece for quilting since there are many good, inexpensive alternatives that satisfy both my aesthetics and my desire to make responsible choices. Others may evaluate the information differently and/or make a different choice. I just hope such decisions are based on evaluation of information rather than on fear.

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    I agree with what Prism99 has said ... with one word added ...
    (and am sure that P99 intended such)

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    I just hope such decisions are based on evaluation of credible information rather than on fear.
    All too often, conclusions are made with information that has little or no scientific base and without a balanced review from assorted credible sources.

    .....how urban myths can get their starts ... and once established, are often hard to get stopped from spreading and considered to be factual.
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    This is to all those who have commented in the negative about fleece...don't use it! However you have noooooo right to expect me to give it up. There is a company in MA that makes fleece from plastic soda bottles. Now that is what I call recycling!!! Give it up please and go sew, be happy and please do not mold your kids into future adults who will need counseling because they will be scared to of everything! Just to let you know, I am wearing my homemade fleece bathrobe and is it keeping me warm. Goodnight quilters!

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    This is to all those who have commented in the negative about fleece...don't use it! However you have noooooo right to expect me to give it up. There is a company in MA that makes fleece from plastic soda bottles. Now that is what I call recycling!!! Give it up please and go sew, be happy and please do not mold your kids into future adults who will need counseling because they will be scared of everything! Just to let you know, I am wearing my homemade fleece bathrobe and is it keeping me warm. Goodnight quilters!

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    This is to all those who have commented in the negative about fleece...don't use it! However you have noooooo right to expect me to give it up
    Perfectly stated.
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    That is disturbing. I was aware that it was made from recyclables and it also makes me wonder now about the Dream Green batting I use. On a different note, I was listening to NPR the other day and they were talking about an ingredient in sunscreen that is lethal to the coral reefs and it doesn't take much of it at all. Something like 50% of the Carribean coral reefs are dying and the ones off Australia are also suffering. It's so sad. There just doesn't seem to be anything that isn't destructive to something!

    As far as plastic water bottles, I think they have their place but I hate to see people at CostCo, buying cases of it for everyday use because they think they are getting 'better' water. I've used a Brita water filter for years and the water does taste better but I'm not afraid to use my tap water. I'll buy liter or gallon bottles when I'm traveling with my dog so I have water for him but I use a thermos for myself on a daily basis. There just isn't, IMO, a reason to go through all those plastic bottles on a daily basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onebyone View Post
    Anything manufactured is not good for the environment. When we go back to wearing animal skins and living off the land I guess many will be thrilled that we are finally living green. Then one day in that future someone invents the wheel and off we go again.
    PETA will try and stop us from wearing animal furs. So I guess we can all wear banana leaves then.
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    The other day when I was watching "This Morning on CBS" they had a fellow on that believes we are too obsessed about recycling because much of the items we recycle create an inferior product that can no longer be recycled. We used to re-use glass soda bottles, now we create something else that is not as strong and can only be used once. Not to mention the recycling process is not always environmentally friendly either. But he also pointed out that everything comes from the earth - petroleum comes from the earth too. Gem stones are created by nature - it doesn't happen overnight, nor does it happen in our lifetime. Much of what he said made sense - wish I could remember his name.

    I think it is more important to be concerned over poisons/carcinogens. Depending totally on nature is nice, but we have too many people on this planet to do that. I wish we didn't have to test on animals, but we wouldn't have the medical advances we have now without it. I personally like having the vaccines available, if you have every seen polio up close, it is not easy to watch, we all need to be thankful for Jonas Salk. And measles - that recent out-break because people have gotten away from doing it because of the fake study out of England was so unnecessary.

    Personally I don't use the fleece, but I do believe it has its place keeping a lot of people warm that need something light and not a lot of room. If you don't want to use it, that's fine, just try not to condemn others that do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye Rose View Post
    Fleece is no different than thousands of other products manufactured today. That plastic bottle for your water, pop, juice (and hundreds of other liquids) is just as bad if not worse than fleece. Basically anything made from "disposable plastic" will be tossed away, yet won't biodegrade for hundreds of years. So complaining about fleece is like flicking that ant off of your arm when you are sitting on top of their nest.

    So just because there is pollution we should just let it continue. Lets use K cups as an example. Just because K cups started out as non bio degradable, we should just keep throwing millions of them into land fills. No, we fix the problem. How about diapers? Just take a minute to really think about how much packaging material you throw away every day. Collect it for a week and see what you are contributing to the garbage pile humans now call home. It was called Earth at one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manalto View Post
    Yeah, let's not rush into anything.
    Ha ha. We really do have to wait for a scientific research paper or twenty to tell us the obvious. Don't take any action until it is too late. It should be the motto for human beings. And out of sight, out of mind. And how about why don't THEY do something about it.

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    [QUOTE=ube quilting;
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    I agree. We should be making better choices today, not only for our generation but those of our kids and grandkids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onebyone View Post
    Anything manufactured is not good for the environment. When we go back to wearing animal skins and living off the land I guess many will be thrilled that we are finally living green. Then one day in that future someone invents the wheel and off we go again.
    We know we have caused many insurmountable problems for our world but still, we can do better with just a little thought to our everyday lives to help reduce the situation we have put the world into. And it is everybody, not just them who can help to reverse the damage we have done.
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