Know your weed killer!

Old 04-11-2015, 08:26 AM
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This is old but it tells you about Monsanto and how they infiltrate the Gov.
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Michael Taylor, former Monsanto Vice President, is now the FDA Deputy Commissioner for Foods.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/he...4fda.html?_r=0
Roger Beachy, former director of the Monsanto-funded Danforth Plant Science Center, is now the director of the USDA National Institute of Food and Agriculture.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/usda_watch.cfm
Islam Siddiqui, Vice President of the Monsanto and Dupont-funded pesticide-promoting lobbying group, CropLife, is now the Agriculture Negotiator for the U.S. Trade Representative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_A._Siddiqui
http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...icle_20276.cfm
Rajiv Shah former agricultural-development director for the pro-biotech Gates Foundation (a frequent Monsanto partner), served as Obama's USDA Under-Secretary for Research Education and Economics and Chief Scientist and is now head of USAID.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...icle_19665.cfm
http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_ba..._lobbyist.html
Elena Kagan, who, as President Obama's Solicitor General, took Monsanto's side against organic farmers in the Roundup Ready alfalfa case, is now on the Supreme Court.
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/201...k-elena-kagan/
Ramona Romero, corporate counsel to DuPont, has been nominated by President Obama to serve as General Counsel for the USDA.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ronnie..._b_642385.html
http://climate-connections.org/2014/...anto-betrayal/
http://whoismonsanto.com/sources/124-2
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Old 04-11-2015, 08:39 AM
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I use one gallon of the strongest vinegar I can find pickling is what I use most with one forth cup of orange oil and a good tablespoon of dawn. It kills very fast except woody things I have to do over two or three times.
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Old 04-11-2015, 08:57 AM
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thanks for all the info, dandelion is edible by the way [if you don't spray it with roundup] and if you would like to eradicate it, you must pull ALL of its root system or it will return...


the use of DDT was much the same, except used decades earlier; it took 20-30 years and a biologist to lead the way to a worldwide ban -- it is still found in the earth today....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:20 AM
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sometimes when I hear "dr oz said" I immediately think of National Enquirer publications. All scare tatics to get eyeballs and never the whole story.

But on the issue of things we use with carcinogens I'm gobstopped by the members who absolutely refuse to consider rinsing out their fabrics before adding them to stash. Why do you think there aren't any more big fabric mills in the US? Because they can still subject employees to known toxics in other countries and they can't here.

Life is a circle and while we all wish we could be vigilant about every single thing, we sadly also base our actions on what is the easy way...
I've had both breast and lung cancer by the way. The lung cancer was very rare, seldom seen in the US, much more common in the far east. What did I do to give myself that?
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But on the issue of things we use with carcinogens I'm gobstopped by the members who absolutely refuse to consider rinsing out their fabrics before adding them to stash.
Or let their children wear clothes right off the rack without washing first? Fabric is loaded with chemicals from dyes and sizing. Think of the chemicals in new carpet that will stay in the house for a long time. My friends thought I was nuts having a room with new carpet steam cleaned with water only the very same day it was installed. My grands were to play on that carpet in an enclosed room.
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I read once a few years ago there is a way to deter the weeds from coming back in the spring. I printed the method and filed it away and would have to search for it at this point, but what it entailed was two different spreading applications of natural substances about 2 weeks to a month apart when rain would not be imminent. Like first layer in late January or early February and second layer following. All I can remember at this point is that one of the applications had corn meal in the mixture. Supposedly what this does is suffocate or smother out the seeds from germinating that were dropped into the ground from last years weed crop. I have seen a mixture in bags at Lowe's that has the corn meal for the lawn. Anyone familiar with this?
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Water is a chemical. Just saying (for those that say they don't want chemicals on their lawn).

Roundup itself is not in genetically modified corn. It's genetically modified so that roundup can be used on it and it won't kill the corn, only the weeds around it.
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Originally Posted by gale View Post
Water is a chemical. Just saying (for those that say they don't want chemicals on their lawn).

Roundup itself is not in genetically modified corn. It's genetically modified so that roundup can be used on it and it won't kill the corn, only the weeds around it.
http://www.prevention.com/food/smart...now-about-gmos

this article explains what GMO's are. Produce created with GMO seeds are saturated in chemicals (pesticides) throughout their growing process.

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That article addresses pesticides inserted into plant DNA. That's for insect resistance. Roundup is an herbicide, not a pesticide. The post that I was referencing says this: "Since I read several articles about how Roundup is now in genetically modified seed corn, I buy only organic corn products, such as in cereal, canned corn or chips."

Unfortunately with the low price of grain and the high cost of fuel and fertilizer (natural or otherwise) large and medium scale farmers can't break even without using chemicals. You can only use mechanical methods to get rid of weeds in the first few weeks of crop growth and even at that point, weeds can quickly overtake a field and lower yields enough to cause loss of income. Crop insurance doesn't help either. Seed that isn't pest resistant can be ruined before it even breaks ground and there's no good cost-effective way to avoid pests coming into a 5000 acre field.

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Thank you Gale. There are two sides to every story, and everyone thinks the other side is greedy and getting rich. The fact is we all like our lifestyle and relatively cheap food. And farmers need chemicals to feed us the way we like to eat at prices we can afford. Over 50% of Americans are overweight, so maybe those folks should all just eat less. Less food consumed, less produced, less chemicals used......simple.

But isn't it interesting that our politicians are in bed with Monsanto....and I don't trust either of them.

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That article addresses pesticides inserted into plant DNA. That's for insect resistance. Roundup is an herbicide, not a pesticide. The post that I was referencing says this: "Since I read several articles about how Roundup is now in genetically modified seed corn, I buy only organic corn products, such as in cereal, canned corn or chips."

Unfortunately with the low price of grain and the high cost of fuel and fertilizer (natural or otherwise) large and medium scale farmers can't break even without using chemicals. You can only use mechanical methods to get rid of weeds in the first few weeks of crop growth and even at that point, weeds can quickly overtake a field and lower yields enough to cause loss of income. Crop insurance doesn't help either. Seed that isn't pest resistant can be ruined before it even breaks ground and there's no good cost-effective way to avoid pests coming into a 5000 acre field.
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