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Thread: Agitate manually. Seriously?

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    Junior Member GiddyUpGo's Avatar
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    Agitate manually. Seriously?

    Has anyone ever used Heirloom Fusible Cotton batting? I'm making a quilt for a friend and just bought some to use in it, and as I was getting ready to put the sandwich together I started reading the care instructions--which includes things like a specific type of laundry detergent I've never heard of, drying flat and filling your washing machine up with water so you can "agitate manually." Are you kidding me? I mean, I understand that quilts need special care but I don't want to give my friend a gift that's such a pain in the butt to wash that she never uses it. If you have used that batting do you follow those instructions when washing and if not, what kind of damage are you going to cause? Should I exchange this batting for something that's a little easier to care for?

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    I haven't used that one but I use Hobbs 80/20 fusible batt. The package says to wash with a mild soap and agitate manually for 15 minutes in the washing machine. I washed my quilts in my top load washing machine alone with colour catchers and lots of water. I do a short 5 minute cycle (I let the machine agitate I don't do it by hand)and let it spin, then into the dryer.

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    I wash all my quilts after I finish in hot water and Tide. Even the fusible batting ones. I tell the person getting the quilt to wash in warm water, no bleach, mild detergent, normal cycle no matter what the batting used.
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    I have a front load so do not think that would work for me. LOL

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    I wonder if that's like the tags in clothes that say everything has to be dry cleaned or hand washed? Not happening at my house! Everything goes in the washer with cold water and either normal or gentle cycle then to dryer with the appropriate cycle.

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    Are the care instructions you're reading for care of the finished quilt, or for preparing the batting for quilting? How far apart does the package say to quilt it? If it's something like 4 to 8 inches apart, then I would be careful. Having said that, however, I do machine wash and machine dry all my quilts. I mean for them to get used, and it's not practical with most people's lifestyles to not be able to wash them. I have never used the fusible, usually it's W&N, and my washing machine is a front loader.

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    No, no. The care instructions are for "washing the batting right out of the package, before layering it into a quilt.

    The hand agitating doesn't have to be done that way either. I've used Hobbs batting for years and all I've ever done is fill the machine with cool water, stop the cycle, push the batting up and down a few times to make sure it is thoroughly wet, let it sit 5-15 minutes, drain and spin the water out without allowing any agitating, and then "air dry" in the dryer about 15 minutes, then drape it over a drying rack, sofa, whatever for the rest of the evening.

    I like the shrinking, wrinkly texture of quilts after they are washed, and doing this to a Hobbs cotton batting before washing the whole quilt, still allows that look.

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    I read this once on a quilt guild newsletter. It was posted by a woman who had just made some quilts as gifts for recent high school grads heading off to college. She actually said she put the following instructions in with the gifted guilt. I thought it was unbelievable she'd expect anyone to do all this, let alone a college student! My quilts are all easy machine wash.

    Quilt Care
    CLEAN:
    --Fill top-loading washer with low-chlorine, 80-degree F (27 degree C) water. Add plain sodium lauryl sulfate-based soap.
    --Shut off washer. Add quilt. Gently agitate by hand. Soak 5 - 10 minutes.
    --Drain. Refill with 80-degree water. Agitate by hand. Repeat this step until soap is removed.
    --Let spin cycle remove excess water.
    --Lay quilt flat on white sheet on carpet or other surface. Block quilt.
    --Fluff on dryer air cycle when nearly dry.

    STORE:
    --Flat, rolled, or folded in thirds.
    --In pillowcase or washed, plain muslin.
    --In dark place with people-comfortable temperature and humidity.
    --with biennual airings.

    DISPLAY:
    --in low light. Frequently rearrange for even light exposure.
    --in clean environment to avoid extra washing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan in VA View Post
    No, no. The care instructions are for "washing the batting right out of the package, before layering it into a quilt.

    Jan in VA
    Would it still be fusible if washed right out of the package? I've never used the fusible, and probably won't, but just wondering.

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    do not wash fusible batting before putting into your quilt. yes, the fusible will wash out.
    i use Hobbs heirloom 80/20 fusible a lot. i soak the finished quilt, then agitate a couple of minutes, spin out. fill again, soak, and agitate couple of minutes and spin out. then into dryer or clothsline outside. usually dryer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willferg View Post
    I read this once on a quilt guild newsletter. It was posted by a woman who had just made some quilts as gifts for recent high school grads heading off to college. She actually said she put the following instructions in with the gifted guilt. I thought it was unbelievable she'd expect anyone to do all this, let alone a college student! My quilts are all easy machine wash.

    Quilt Care
    CLEAN:
    --Fill top-loading washer with low-chlorine, 80-degree F (27 degree C) water. Add plain sodium lauryl sulfate-based soap.
    --Shut off washer. Add quilt. Gently agitate by hand. Soak 5 - 10 minutes.
    --Drain. Refill with 80-degree water. Agitate by hand. Repeat this step until soap is removed.
    --Let spin cycle remove excess water.
    --Lay quilt flat on white sheet on carpet or other surface. Block quilt.
    --Fluff on dryer air cycle when nearly dry.

    STORE:
    --Flat, rolled, or folded in thirds.
    --In pillowcase or washed, plain muslin.
    --In dark place with people-comfortable temperature and humidity.
    --with biennual airings.

    DISPLAY:
    --in low light. Frequently rearrange for even light exposure.
    --in clean environment to avoid extra washing.
    Yeeeaaaahhh. If I was a college student and someone gave me those care instructions, that quilt would go into a closet and never come out. IF I actually read the instructions, that is.

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    I got 'stuck' at the sodium laurel sulfate based soap! (She could have included a brand name and a container of the stuff!)

    Probably good instructions for an heirloom type quilt, but I make 'okay to use' and wash quilts!

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    IMHO, people wash their quilts way to often. Unless you are really abusing a quilt it rarely needs to be washed. Usually a good airing and or the gentle vacuum treatment should be all that is needed for most quilts. Of course the ones littles play with are meant to be abused so that is an exception. When animals are part of the equation you have another situation.

    Find out what kind of pressure this quilt is going to live with and you may just want to use something more durable and even that won't last forever if it is overwashed through the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by humbird View Post
    Would it still be fusible if washed right out of the package? I've never used the fusible, and probably won't, but just wondering.
    Actually the instructions are for care of the quilt; the package specifically says *not* to prewash the batting because it won't be fusible any more if you do.

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    IMO that's the CYA factor. No matter what happens to the quilt when it's washed, they're not responsible. LOL
    My goodness, what are you supposed to do with baby quilts that get all sorts of things on them? Granted I haven't used fusible, but any quilt has to be washed.
    Last edited by bobquilt3; 02-16-2013 at 05:24 AM.

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    The only thing I have used fusible batting on is purses. My quilts are made to be washed , and dried in the washing machine , on gentle if I remember if not.. Oh well.. None are heirloom or show quilts. I just have to convince some people of that. Like the wheelchair quilt I made my dad with everyones hand prints appliqued on it. Flannel backing. That thing was satin stitched and machine quilted out the ying yang . Meant to be used and abused. My step mother sent it back . Brand new Never been used . I was so mad.. I am not hand agitated anything.. I had to use a wringer washer as a kid and I can tell you I remember the pain of getting my hand caught in that better than I remember child birth. If I can avoid it my hands do not touch wash water. LOL

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    Just as an aside, I tried this stuff and I doubt I will ever use fusible again. I don't know maybe my iron just isn't hot enough, but it just didn't stick together very well and I ended up with tucks that we're so bad on the back I actually ripped the quilting out in some places and did it again. Ugh. Plus when it came out of the packaging it was already fused to itself, difficult to pull apart and wouldnt smooth out in places. I'm going back to safety pins!

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    I had to use a wringer washer as a kid and I can tell you I remember the pain of getting my hand caught in that better than I remember child birth.

    damaquilts...I still have the scar on my R index finger from playing with that dang ringer.....LOL.. NUBQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiddyUpGo View Post
    Actually the instructions are for care of the quilt; the package specifically says *not* to prewash the batting because it won't be fusible any more if you do.
    Giddy, you are right of course! I blitzed right on by the "fusible" part, silly me. Disregard my instructions everybody!

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    Just have to say the wrong thing i did, i had pre-printed squares that I bought and what did I do? I washed them of course. well the lovely blue lines went away. I contacted the company i got them from and claimed to be dumb (well I was) but also told them they should state that the squares should not be pre-washed. i pre-wash all fabrics! they sent me more. nice company and they never put that statement in. oh well, hopefully no one else was just as dumb as me.
    so far, i've not pre-washed my fusible batting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    do not wash fusible batting before putting into your quilt. yes, the fusible will wash out.
    i use Hobbs heirloom 80/20 fusible a lot. i soak the finished quilt, then agitate a couple of minutes, spin out. fill again, soak, and agitate couple of minutes and spin out. then into dryer or clothsline outside. usually dryer.
    Most of these suggestions do not work for me. I have to go to our apartment complex laundry room and the machine just runs a whole cycle no stopping it. Because of this, I know longer wash my fabrics either.
    I do wash the quilts after they are finished to remove markings. If they wrinkle it does not bother me because I like that look.

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    Actually , I have done that. You just fill the tub, squish it are d and set it on drain. Kind of like washing it in the bathtub without having to get out a slopping wet batt.

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    If you don't want to give your friend a special care quilt, then you need a different batting. The instructions provided are what is recommended for the care. I use either Warm and Natural or Hobbs 80/20 for most gift quilts. I've also used the poly batting sold on the roll at Hancocks (it's a bit harder to quilt because it is thicker). All 3 of these can be thrown into the gentle cycle.

    As far as laundry detergent, I use Orvus or other horse shampoo myself, but I tell folks to use Woolite for their gift quilts as most standard laundry detergents have some form of bleach in them. For baby quilts, the Mom usually washes it in whatever. All I tell them is that if they vary my recommendations, the quilt will be fine, but won't last as long without color fading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    do not wash fusible batting before putting into your quilt. yes, the fusible will wash out.
    i use Hobbs heirloom 80/20 fusible a lot. i soak the finished quilt, then agitate a couple of minutes, spin out. fill again, soak, and agitate couple of minutes and spin out. then into dryer or clothsline outside. usually dryer.
    Thanks NativeTexan, I'm not the one starting this thread but this definitely is wonderful information. Thanks.

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