Not to keep stirring the pot, but....
08-29-2010, 08:22 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by Conniequilts
I don't generally weigh in on topics like this but it has been consistent and confusing.
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
ME TOO
08-29-2010, 08:27 AM
#102
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Originally Posted by maggiek
Sorry. I have to disagree. Making patterns is this person's livelihood and the copyright is all that protects their income and rights to their own work. It would be like copying a book and sharing it with anyone. The author loses their right to sell the only thing they have - their intellectual property. Asking permission to use a pattern is not a big deal - it is just the right thing to do.
08-29-2010, 08:32 AM
#103
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http://www.womenfolk.com/quilting_hi...olitionist.htm
Ohhhhh shame shame shame - here are a couple patterns that I have seen COPIED by some of our famous quilt designers! BTW, by changing the colors, it is NOT an original......... but, when it comes down to it, do we REALLY care??? hmmmm
Ohhhhh shame shame shame - here are a couple patterns that I have seen COPIED by some of our famous quilt designers! BTW, by changing the colors, it is NOT an original......... but, when it comes down to it, do we REALLY care??? hmmmm
08-29-2010, 08:50 AM
#104
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I worked in a law office for years. These are boilerplate statements created by lawyers to cover as many contingencies as possible. It is beyond my comprehension that McCalls or anybody else is sending spies out to quilt shows looking for someone who might have displayed one of their quilts without permission. It simply isn't feasible, and it would be terribly expensive. It's like pirating music from the internet. A song/quilt here and there does not a copyright violation make. But if someone is making money--say, a famous quilter--by displaying quilts from patterns in McCalls, then McCalls would probably want to go after that person for a piece of the action.
Ordinarily, I don't pay any attention to copyright statements unless I'm going to send a quilt off for auction at the Alzheimer's Art Quilt Initiative. AAQI demands it and wants a copy of the permission letter or email that I receive. Most people/companies are gracious in granting permission to use their designs, and in general, it's easy to find them so that I am able to ask. Sometimes I don't get an answer from the person, which I take to mean "no." But most of the time people are delighted that I like their design enough to ask, and gladly give their permission. My avatar is one of those cases. I found the design on a greeting card. The artist is in Germany and I waited several weeks before I heard from her, but she was as nice as could be when I did.
Ordinarily, I don't pay any attention to copyright statements unless I'm going to send a quilt off for auction at the Alzheimer's Art Quilt Initiative. AAQI demands it and wants a copy of the permission letter or email that I receive. Most people/companies are gracious in granting permission to use their designs, and in general, it's easy to find them so that I am able to ask. Sometimes I don't get an answer from the person, which I take to mean "no." But most of the time people are delighted that I like their design enough to ask, and gladly give their permission. My avatar is one of those cases. I found the design on a greeting card. The artist is in Germany and I waited several weeks before I heard from her, but she was as nice as could be when I did.
08-29-2010, 09:10 AM
#105
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Location: Longwood, Florida
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Some time ago I bought some cd's with old newspaper patterns and one cd had lots of old books of quilt patterns and a another cd had all the embroidery.
there are hundreds of designs on these cd's.
All the patterns are copyright free as these patterns start from 1800. I can take any of these blocks and draw them in EQ and make them whatever I wish. Most of of the blocks are blocks we know about anyway.
I told you guys to get EQ, hahhahahah...but no fooling, EQ is a fun program and it's not hard to do the blocks. How do you think the designers do it.
I will purchase books from my favorites...like Barbara Brackman or Judy Martin...Judy loves for you to sell you quilts...
there are hundreds of designs on these cd's.
All the patterns are copyright free as these patterns start from 1800. I can take any of these blocks and draw them in EQ and make them whatever I wish. Most of of the blocks are blocks we know about anyway.
I told you guys to get EQ, hahhahahah...but no fooling, EQ is a fun program and it's not hard to do the blocks. How do you think the designers do it.
I will purchase books from my favorites...like Barbara Brackman or Judy Martin...Judy loves for you to sell you quilts...
08-29-2010, 09:19 AM
#106
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Originally Posted by Sadiemae
I keep thinking about something:
When a designer writes on his/her pattern (Only for personal use, may not sell items made from this pattern.) I can't help but think about what happens in the future.
For example, suppose I really like a pattern and I make 5 or 6 quilts. I just put them in my stash and they stay there until I die. Okay now say I have a mean Uncle Harry (I don't) and he doesn't want anything I made. So he sells the quilts to get the money because he is mean and greedy, or he auctions them off with the rest of my stuff. Now according to their copywright, Mean Uncle Harry is breaking the law and doesn't even know about it. How would they like to handle this, or does he catch a break because he is dumb.
When a designer writes on his/her pattern (Only for personal use, may not sell items made from this pattern.) I can't help but think about what happens in the future.
For example, suppose I really like a pattern and I make 5 or 6 quilts. I just put them in my stash and they stay there until I die. Okay now say I have a mean Uncle Harry (I don't) and he doesn't want anything I made. So he sells the quilts to get the money because he is mean and greedy, or he auctions them off with the rest of my stuff. Now according to their copywright, Mean Uncle Harry is breaking the law and doesn't even know about it. How would they like to handle this, or does he catch a break because he is dumb.
08-29-2010, 09:26 AM
#107
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Copyrights are expensive and have to be renewed. I doubt if the patterns are CR.
08-29-2010, 09:29 AM
#108
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Originally Posted by Conniequilts
I don't generally weigh in on topics like this but it has been consistent and confusing.
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
08-29-2010, 09:31 AM
#109
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Fort White, Fl
Posts: 2,689
Originally Posted by Conniequilts
I don't generally weigh in on topics like this but it has been consistent and confusing.
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
I totally agree with this one. What I do after I have purchashed the pattern is my business. I would not copy and sell the pattern although some fabric shops do, but as far as the quilt goes unless you use the exact fabric, colors and stitching it is not a copy.
08-29-2010, 09:32 AM
#110
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Posts: 124
Originally Posted by lillybeck
Originally Posted by Conniequilts
I don't generally weigh in on topics like this but it has been consistent and confusing.
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
This is my view point (right or wrong) - I have paid for the pattern so what I make with it is my business and what I do with it after that is my business.
I understand I should not re-sell the pattern and especially not for a profit. I also have no problem with respecting not copying it and sharing it with others.
I strongly believe their control over a quilt should END with the purchasing of the pattern.
Just my thoughts ;)
I totally agree with this one. What I do after I have purchashed the pattern is my business. I would not copy and sell the pattern although some fabric shops do, but as far as the quilt goes unless you use the exact fabric, colors and stitching it is not a copy.
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