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    Old 03-01-2011, 09:27 AM
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    Originally Posted by RST
    What drives me nuts is when some of the newer-to-quilting bloggers refer to the process of stitching the layers together (properly termed "quilting" in my mind, as well as historically) as "topstitching".

    Topstitching is a real term. It's what you do on jeans. It's often used in bag and tote construction. It's done on upholstery. But it's really very different from the skill set that is correctly known as quilting (be it hand or machine, domestic or longarm).

    But -- I think they use the term topstitching because it's confusing to refer to quilting as both the stitching technique, and the overall hobby. So they are trying to distinguish between the piecing / patchworking portion of the work, and the quilting.

    Still -- it annoys.

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    Old 03-01-2011, 09:39 AM
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    A lot of non-quilters confuse patchwork with quilting, but at least they get that it's sewn cloth of some sort, and that's a bit better than calling a quilt a "blanket". Another issue I have on the subject is that quite a few people seem to think quilting was invented in America, and that needs to be corrected because they were around long before the discovery of the New World. The Wikipedia article on "Quilt" includes some information on the history with documentation and pictures. I learned from a dictionary that the word "quilt" comes from the Latin word for mattress. I imagine that people first started tying or sewing layers of cloth together so that they could sleep on them without having them rumple up into an uncomfortable mess. Like a whole lot of technology, it has evolved over many generations and hundreds of years. Words are defined by the way they are most clearly understood. My most strenuous objection is when someone calls a crocheted afghan a "quilt" - a total confusion of terms.
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    Old 03-01-2011, 09:54 AM
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    My most strenuous objection is when someone calls a crocheted afghan a "quilt" - a total confusion of terms.

    Ugggh. HAte that. The PBS ad where the carpenter dudes, Norm I think, and some of the THis Old House cast, talk about watching the quilt shows, and hold up a crocheted afghan -- never fails to set my teeth on edge. That would be like Nancy and Pokey holding up the "woodwork" they've crafted out of sheet metal -- totally wrong genre.

    The origins of quilting are interesting to try to figure out. My grandmother, who was born in China, always claimed that the traditional Chinese layered clothing was the true origins. While my parents, who lived in Kenya for a long time, point to the pieced fabric works of some of the tribes as a possible source for patchwork origins. I say it rose independently from multiple sources, with varied approaches and aesthetics.

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    I really don't care what it is called. The main point to me is: did you have fun in the process?

    Wall quilts are what they are. Tops are tops. Whatever they are they are our creativity so just relax and enjoy the process.

    A big PFFFTT to the quilt police.

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    I like the term Fabric Art it includes all out work.
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    Old 03-01-2011, 10:15 AM
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    Originally Posted by RST
    My most strenuous objection is when someone calls a crocheted afghan a "quilt" - a total confusion of terms.

    Ugggh. HAte that. The PBS ad where the carpenter dudes, Norm I think, and some of the THis Old House cast, talk about watching the quilt shows, and hold up a crocheted afghan -- never fails to set my teeth on edge. That would be like Nancy and Pokey holding up the "woodwork" they've crafted out of sheet metal -- totally wrong genre.

    The origins of quilting are interesting to try to figure out. My grandmother, who was born in China, always claimed that the traditional Chinese layered clothing was the true origins. While my parents, who lived in Kenya for a long time, point to the pieced fabric works of some of the tribes as a possible source for patchwork origins. I say it rose independently from multiple sources, with varied approaches and aesthetics.

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    So fascinating!

    I cringe when someone calls one of my afghans a blanket. I've gotten used to it - but still cringe.
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    Old 03-01-2011, 10:15 AM
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    Wonder who made the people who say it's not a quilt, the quilt police???
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    Old 03-01-2011, 10:20 AM
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    i totally agree and i LOVE CARYL'S WORK! she has absolutely BEAUTIFUL QUILTS in her galleries!
    for someone to say it's not a quilt is pretty ignorant....
    there are many, many different styles of quilts...just because one is not (your style) does not make it less a quilt. :thumbup:
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    Old 03-01-2011, 11:10 AM
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    Originally Posted by Rose_P
    A lot of non-quilters confuse patchwork with quilting, but at least they get that it's sewn cloth of some sort, and that's a bit better than calling a quilt a "blanket". Another issue I have on the subject is that quite a few people seem to think quilting was invented in America, and that needs to be corrected because they were around long before the discovery of the New World. The Wikipedia article on "Quilt" includes some information on the history with documentation and pictures. I learned from a dictionary that the word "quilt" comes from the Latin word for mattress. I imagine that people first started tying or sewing layers of cloth together so that they could sleep on them without having them rumple up into an uncomfortable mess. Like a whole lot of technology, it has evolved over many generations and hundreds of years. Words are defined by the way they are most clearly understood. My most strenuous objection is when someone calls a crocheted afghan a "quilt" - a total confusion of terms.
    Thank you. As an English woman, this common assumption does rather annoy me - especially when someone says to me 'oh do you quilt in England/Europe as well?' :-D I have seen a quilt in the Victoria and Albert Museum in London (I used to work for them in PR) that was made in the 14th century in Europe - way before Columbus even DISCOVERED America. :mrgreen:
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    Old 03-01-2011, 11:22 AM
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    once again the semantics have over-ridden the usage of words. unfortunately the word quilt can be a noun or a verb. you can make a quilt and you can quilt an item. ultimately, what does it matter what you call the item? i say po ta to, you say po tah to. we just need to enjoy the body of work. piece to you all.
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